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Posted: 1/2/2018 12:22:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Another year of Ham wins and Ferrari disappointment combined with ESPN coverage and halos? Ugggghhhh. I dunno if I'm more disgusted with F1 or the NFL. The two sports that are the reason I bought my giant TV and pay for ridiculous cable packages both made me want to use my TV for target practice in 2017. I'm not hopefull for 2018.
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Posted: 1/2/2018 12:24:22 PM EDT
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Verstappen will challenge this year.
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Posted: 1/2/2018 12:25:49 PM EDT
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Another year of Ham wins and Ferrari disappointment combined with ESPN coverage and halos? Ugggghhhh. I dunno if I'm more disgusted with F1 or the NFL. The two sports that are the reason I bought my giant TV and pay for ridiculous cable packages both made me want to use my TV for target practice in 2017. I'm not hopefull for 2018. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 12:33:53 PM EDT
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Another year of Ham wins and Ferrari disappointment combined with ESPN coverage and halos? Ugggghhhh. I dunno if I'm more disgusted with F1 or the NFL. The two sports that are the reason I bought my giant TV and pay for ridiculous cable packages both made me want to use my TV for target practice in 2017. I'm not hopefull for 2018. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 2:46:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m considering canceling cable and no more F1 |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 2:51:02 PM EDT
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Oh... and I forgot to add the most boring aspect of all... the farty V6 engines. I don't care if lap times are now lower, the cars still sound like shit and I'll NEVER get used to it. It is so uninspired and stupid. Screw the Euros and their green bullshit.
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Posted: 1/2/2018 2:51:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m considering canceling cable and no more F1 That's the reason they are switching from NBC to ESPN, NBC didn't want people to be able to watch F1 in America through another source. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 3:32:42 PM EDT
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In on 1. My heart is with Ferrari but my head says Hamilton again this year.  
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Posted: 1/2/2018 3:35:22 PM EDT
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Another year of Ham wins and Ferrari disappointment combined with ESPN coverage and halos? Ugggghhhh. I dunno if I'm more disgusted with F1 or the NFL. The two sports that are the reason I bought my giant TV and pay for ridiculous cable packages both made me want to use my TV for target practice in 2017. I'm not hopefull for 2018. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 4:49:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do not worry there is still plenty of room for F1 to get even crappier in the future, perhaps we will see 4 cylinder turbos Europe wins again. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 4:52:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: F1 is starting it's own streaming service like WEC does. No commercials, no bullshit, just pure F1. That's the reason they are switching from NBC to ESPN, NBC didn't want people to be able to watch F1 in America through another source. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 5:49:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: F1 is starting it's own streaming service like WEC does. No commercials, no bullshit, just pure F1. That's the reason they are switching from NBC to ESPN, NBC didn't want people to be able to watch F1 in America through another source. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 5:51:29 PM EDT
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Do not worry there is still plenty of room for F1 to get even crappier in the future, perhaps we will see 4 cylinder turbos Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another year of Ham wins and Ferrari disappointment combined with ESPN coverage and halos? Ugggghhhh. I dunno if I'm more disgusted with F1 or the NFL. The two sports that are the reason I bought my giant TV and pay for ridiculous cable packages both made me want to use my TV for target practice in 2017. I'm not hopefull for 2018. 
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Posted: 1/2/2018 5:52:24 PM EDT
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If F1 starts a streaming service to where I could pay, log in and watch a race, or session whenever I want, I'd be all in for that for a reasonable price. Now if it's only streaming live, I'm not paying for that, as I can't always be at a computer when F1 is happening, that is why I have DVR... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: F1 is starting it's own streaming service like WEC does. No commercials, no bullshit, just pure F1. That's the reason they are switching from NBC to ESPN, NBC didn't want people to be able to watch F1 in America through another source. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 6:18:03 PM EDT
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It would be nice to hear 18,000 RPM NA engines again...
*sigh* I guess I'll just have to settle for hating Crybaby Hamilton. The Ol' Crew Chief F1 Fan since 1987(but maybe not much longer 'cause they sound so crappy) |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 6:20:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AFAIK you'll be able to watch replays of previous races whenever you want. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:57:55 PM EDT
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Yea I would like the streaming service if it delivers like you guys are talking about
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:58:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As soon as this is available I will look into it. I want to see just how bad ESPN is first. Also the cost of the streaming service is a factor too... |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 3:09:42 AM EDT
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im in though i really do think post season + testing and the season should have separate threads.
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Posted: 1/3/2018 12:40:30 PM EDT
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im in though i really do think post season + testing and the season should have separate threads. 
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Posted: 1/3/2018 12:47:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Where does the line form to bash Hamilton? I’m in...
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Posted: 1/4/2018 11:51:56 PM EDT
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Where does the line form to bash Hamilton? I’m in... Consider that. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 12:18:05 AM EDT
[#23]
This thread is becoming the line for the toilet.
We haven't even SEEN a 2018 car and not a single lap has been turned yet. Can we cool it down with all the hate in all directions? This isn't directed at anyone or any post in particular but if we want new people to participate or for others to come back can we just tone down the negativity until Australia? Please? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 10:48:11 AM EDT
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This thread is becoming the line for the toilet. We haven't even SEEN a 2018 car and not a single lap has been turned yet. Can we cool it down with all the hate in all directions? This isn't directed at anyone or any post in particular but if we want new people to participate or for others to come back can we just tone down the negativity until Australia? Please? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 10:54:50 AM EDT
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The official Arfcom 2018 F1 mascot:
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Posted: 1/5/2018 10:58:59 AM EDT
[#26]
I think we are all just bored waiting for some action, we have no new cars yet, no testing, no races, so nothing to talk about.
But all in all the mood is down this year due to ESPN, the Halo, and other dumb stuff. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:15:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are we all supposed to just "coexist" and be cheerleaders? Some of us have been following F1 for many years and watched things go downhill. We can all choose to ignore the elephants in the room, but that won't make them go away. We're just being realistic about the direction that the sport continues to take. Hopefully the Liberty group can fix it. At least there's that little bit of hope. Yes, the off-season is the silly-season but let's talk about rumors for 2018 or F1 history and not just talk about how shitty 2018 is going to be. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:16:47 AM EDT
[#28]
I try to remain pessimistic all the time, that way I’m pleasantly surprised more often.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:22:30 AM EDT
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I try to remain pessimistic all the time, that way I’m pleasantly surprised more often. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:22:49 AM EDT
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I try to remain pessimistic all the time, that way I’m pleasantly surprised more often. 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:31:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI never liked the F1 logo. There's a couple aspects about it that don't work for the graphic designer in me.
The new one is better, though still not perfect. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:34:08 AM EDT
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As soon as this is available I will look into it. I want to see just how bad ESPN is first. Also the cost of the streaming service is a factor too... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: AFAIK you'll be able to watch replays of previous races whenever you want. 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:39:03 AM EDT
[#33]
Fuck the HALO
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Posted: 1/5/2018 12:18:59 PM EDT
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Fuck the HALO Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:28:57 PM EDT
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I try to remain pessimistic all the time, that way I’m pleasantly surprised more often. Also, past trends are often a good predictor of future trends. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:31:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, I think we're ALL in agreement on this. Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:56:19 PM EDT
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Zactly! Like I said... Halos suck. V6s suck. The FIA sucks. Ferrari blows races. Merc's dominance is far beyond old. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Okay, I think we're ALL in agreement on this. Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. It does suck to see one team dominate to this degree. However, it's certainly not a new phenomenon. We've seen eras of dominance from Ferrari, Williams, McLaren, and Red Bull. To a smaller degree, Renault as well. Mercedes dominance is most similar to the Red Bull/Vettel era, though to a higher degree, and for a longer period, I think. I'd have to research the results and lap times. What I don't want to see is the FIA stick it to Mercedes specifically. I'd rather see a solution where they allow all teams to improve between, and throughout the seasons. Maybe allow more changes and testing. If Mercedes takes better advantage of this, then so be it. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember the FIA made rules changes that were specifically aimed at breaking RBR's dominance. I don't want the FIA to pick favorites, even if it would benefit my favorite teams and drivers. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:58:15 PM EDT
[#38]
Fuck Hamilton, I hope he crashes out every race and continues being such a crybaby. How Mercedes has been allowed to get away with their performance while the heads of F1 look the other way is interesting. Always been a Kimi fan regardless of what team he drives for.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:01:22 PM EDT
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You can always use ace stream to watch SKY F1 like I do Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: AFAIK you'll be able to watch replays of previous races whenever you want. I have high hopes for the streaming service from F1. The one saving grace of the ugly ass halo may be the ability to fill it with cameras. Being able to switch from car to car with multiple angles would be miles better than relying on the world feed. I can almost guarantee ESPN will butcher it. I remember when they took over the US Open and let Chris Berman announce. My god was it aweful. He didn't know the difference between "hitting 3" and "lying 3" so he couldn't keep score and kept calling hybrids "high-birds" |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 3:03:05 PM EDT
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Looks like Kubica won't be making a return to F1.
Formula 1: Williams finalising Sergey Sirotkin 2018 drive A 19 year old and a 22 year old, what could possibly go wrong? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 3:25:43 PM EDT
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Looks like Kubica won't be making a return to F1. Formula 1: Williams finalising Sergey Sirotkin 2018 drive A 19 year old and a 22 year old, what could possibly go wrong? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 4:18:32 PM EDT
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Okay, I think we're ALL in agreement on this. Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck the HALO Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 4:25:56 PM EDT
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Looks like Kubica won't be making a return to F1. Formula 1: Williams finalising Sergey Sirotkin 2018 drive A 19 year old and a 22 year old, what could possibly go wrong? I have Williams merch in my amazon cart waiting to be purchased.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 4:26:45 PM EDT
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Not gonna happen, even if there were. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck the HALO Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 4:31:23 PM EDT
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Line the entire thing with cameras and allow me to switch from car to car and I'll be a fan. Add virtual reality viewing and dub over sounds from the early 2000's era V10 engines and I'll forget what the open cockpit cars ever looked like. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck the HALO Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 5:51:16 PM EDT
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The Mercedes dominance issue is a tough one. It does suck to see one team dominate to this degree. However, it's certainly not a new phenomenon. We've seen eras of dominance from Ferrari, Williams, McLaren, and Red Bull. To a smaller degree, Renault as well. Mercedes dominance is most similar to the Red Bull/Vettel era, though to a higher degree, and for a longer period, I think. I'd have to research the results and lap times. What I don't want to see is the FIA stick it to Mercedes specifically. I'd rather see a solution where they allow all teams to improve between, and throughout the seasons. Maybe allow more changes and testing. If Mercedes takes better advantage of this, then so be it. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember the FIA made rules changes that were specifically aimed at breaking RBR's dominance. I don't want the FIA to pick favorites, even if it would benefit my favorite teams and drivers. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 7:29:21 PM EDT
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Looks like Kubica won't be making a return to F1. Formula 1: Williams finalising Sergey Sirotkin 2018 drive A 19 year old and a 22 year old, what could possibly go wrong? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:12:37 PM EDT
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that is a shame Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like Kubica won't be making a return to F1. Formula 1: Williams finalising Sergey Sirotkin 2018 drive A 19 year old and a 22 year old, what could possibly go wrong? I also imagine there is quite the financial incentive to bring in a Russian driver, and it sounds like money Williams needs. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 9:53:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is a shame but at the same time I appreciate new blood getting into F1. Seeing Kubica race again would have been amazing, but I'd be so disappointed if he did it in a car fighting for single-digit points and then have people questioning whether he was fit to return. I also imagine there is quite the financial incentive to bring in a Russian driver, and it sounds like money Williams needs. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 10:06:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, I think we're ALL in agreement on this. Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. |
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