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Posted: 1/1/2018 11:36:29 PM EDT
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Calling a repeat. They will be better in 2018 than they were in 2017. ETA: Link to my prediction about halfway down page 1 last season 
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Posted: 1/1/2018 11:38:15 PM EDT
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EVERY morning my 16 year old daughter, my baseball buddy, tells me how many days till pitchers & catchers report. We Are Ready. She marks the calendar. And we will support the Arizona Diamondbacks with our heart and soul come what may : ) This year we'll get to more than one game for sure. And watch 'em all on tv if possible. Given we boycotted the nfl this year, we look foreward, more than we normally do to the 1st pitch, and we ALWAYS look foreward to baseball season. America's Great Game.  We do enjoy when traditionaly downtrodden teams do good. Look at the Twins, Indians, Royals, Diamondbacks, etc. Don't have the payroll the Dodgers/Yankees/etc have, but working hard nonetheless. Makes it interesting for us. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 12:02:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ill admit. That was a sick burn. But I could counter with- 'thats what winning looks like' Weird huh. eh, Bucs fans?! Im sure youll get to do it eventually. 
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Posted: 1/2/2018 1:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kevin McClatchy had a lot of faults as an owner, but the biggest one was making a deal with the devil and bringing the nuttings in when he needed money or more investors. They ended up having controlling votes on the board for more years that mcclatchy was the owner than not. As far as the nuttings goes, look at the family business history. They owned news papers. But in the days before the internet when print was still viable, did they ever own any major market paper? No. All third and fourth rate dinky mill towns like weirton and wheeling, that didn't even have enough paper to line a hamster cage. Maybe johnstown pa, and then their flagship, the pennysaver. They have no inclination to even buy a paper in a bigger city liek a pittsburgh or cleveland. I think from that you could deduce that they never have had a winning or competitive mentallity. MLB needs to tell nutting to put up or sell. Actually I think that was exactly what happened when they had the couple good seasons. MLB did not want to see Clementes memory tarnished with 21 losing seasons, in the city he played for. And so they forced him to spend more of the revenue sharing money they beggeed for. And we see that when they play competitively, the fans show up. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 2:10:04 PM EDT
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Possible write off scheme. But he has made money over the past several years with the TV revenue sharing that they used to beg for.
And the dirtbag is getting a $1million grant from the state to make improvements at 7springs and hidden valley. I'd like to know what the two sponsoring legislators are getting out of that deal. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 3:51:57 PM EDT
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Calling a repeat. They will be better in 2018 than they were in 2017. ETA: Link to my prediction about halfway down page 1 last season
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Posted: 1/2/2018 6:00:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pick us some good seats. First round's on me. In other news- Seattle Mariners own longest postseason drought in major professional sports. Youre #1 Mariners! |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 7:27:13 PM EDT
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16 years without a postseason run? We went 20 years without a winning season. That number was only broke for three years because of McCutchen's Samson-like dreads. He shorns his locks because of his woman, and BAM! no more power or contact.
At this rate, the Pirates may not have a winning season before the Second Coming. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 7:33:17 PM EDT
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Meanwhile Jim Thome is looking to be a lock as a guaranteed 1st ballot Hall of Famer. Hear that Steve? Jim Thome. 1st ballot Hall of Fame. An Indian from the start, took a 1 day contract to retire an Indian, goin into the hall as an Indian. Oom, yeah, uh-huh...
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Posted: 1/2/2018 8:14:30 PM EDT
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In!
The Jays are in tough this year against the Yankees and Red Sox. Its going to be a fight between the other 3 teams to see who finishes third in the AL East. Jays have done absolutely nothing so far in the off season other than release and DFA a few guys. They signed one no name infielder from the Cards but that is it. I don't believe they will be able to sign Donaldson and he will be gone mid season much to the chagrin of fans. We are also stuck with Tulo and Martin at $20 million a piece. Unfortunately we are stuck with the moribund former management team from the Indians. A money guy and his yesman. Doesn't look good although I like the manager John Gibbons. Rumour is Rogers are shopping the Jays while their value may have peaked. We may get stuck with the Teachers Pension Fund owning them just like when they owned the Leafs hockey team. Hockey fans remember how they ran that team into the ground. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 8:16:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2018 8:39:28 PM EDT
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In! The Jays are in tough this year against the Yankees and Red Sox. Its going to be a fight between the other 3 teams to see who finishes third in the AL East. Jays have done absolutely nothing so far in the off season other than release and DFA a few guys. They signed one no name infielder from the Cards but that is it. I don't believe they will be able to sign Donaldson and he will be gone mid season much to the chagrin of fans. We are also stuck with Tulo and Martin at $20 million a piece. Unfortunately we are stuck with the moribund former management team from the Indians. A money guy and his yesman. Doesn't look good although I like the manager John Gibbons. Rumour is Rogers are shopping the Jays while their value may have peaked. We may get stuck with the Teachers Pension Fund owning them just like when they owned the Leafs hockey team. Hockey fans remember how they ran that team into the ground. Welcome aboard! |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 8:48:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whoa, an honest-to-goodness Jays fan. Welcome aboard! 
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Posted: 1/2/2018 8:51:56 PM EDT
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No one cares. Like, hey good for the Indians that Thome is going in as an Injun. Of course he never got a ring. Nor has any Indian in seven decades. Think of all the things that have happened since the last time the Indians won the Series. Men went to the Moon, Woodstock, the invention of the personal computer, disco, 70s bush gave way to clean shaven, cars that get more than single digit MPG, plastics, pizza and tacos went mainstream, the Tigers won the Series twice, the Pirates won the series thrice, every single thing mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", the invention of Mountain Dew (surely the nectar of the Gods), Alaska and Hawaii admitted to the Union, Korea, Vietnam, the start and finish of the Cold War, video games, central heat and air, cable TV, online porn, and a million other things. But it's not like anyone is paying attention to such things.  Billy Joel - We Didn't Start the Fire (Official HD Video) |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 8:54:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been in these baseball threads for the last 3 years at least. Especially when we were knocking the Rangers out of the playoffs |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 8:55:03 PM EDT
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Dude, weak. You got to put some effort into it. Like, hey good for the Indians that Thome is going in as an Injun. Of course he never got a ring. Nor has any Indian in seven decades. Think of all the things that have happened since the last time the Indians won the Series. Men went to the Moon, Woodstock, the invention of the personal computer, disco, 70s bush gave way to clean shaven, cars that get more than single digit MPG, plastics, pizza and tacos went mainstream, the Tigers won the Series twice, the Pirates won the series thrice, every single thing mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", the invention of Mountain Dew (surely the nectar of the Gods), Alaska and Hawaii admitted to the Union, Korea, Vietnam, the start and finish of the Cold War, video games, central heat and air, cable TV, online porn, and a million other things. But it's not like anyone is paying attention to such things.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542gQuote HistoryQuoted:
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No one cares. Like, hey good for the Indians that Thome is going in as an Injun. Of course he never got a ring. Nor has any Indian in seven decades. Think of all the things that have happened since the last time the Indians won the Series. Men went to the Moon, Woodstock, the invention of the personal computer, disco, 70s bush gave way to clean shaven, cars that get more than single digit MPG, plastics, pizza and tacos went mainstream, the Tigers won the Series twice, the Pirates won the series thrice, every single thing mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", the invention of Mountain Dew (surely the nectar of the Gods), Alaska and Hawaii admitted to the Union, Korea, Vietnam, the start and finish of the Cold War, video games, central heat and air, cable TV, online porn, and a million other things. But it's not like anyone is paying attention to such things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g 10/10 |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 8:55:58 PM EDT
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Mea culpa, but Canada is a magical land far away from the 'Burgh. It's like the Shire, only with a Maple smell in the air and Tim Horton's on every corner, and Hockey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I've been in these baseball threads for the last 3 years at least. Especially when we were knocking the Rangers out of the playoffs 
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:13:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I remember Glenzo. Specifically this time last year when we got Encarnacion from the Jays. Hes always popped in and out. Since you got Eddie E maybe you would like to take Tulo and Martin off our hands. Yes we are kind of like the Shire to the north. The one full of commies and the retards who vote for them. Anyways, good luck to all teams and fans, cant wait for the season to start. I might have to cheer for the Tigers if the Jays crash and burn early like they did last year. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:18:53 PM EDT
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I will say I was bummed when Russell Martin went to the Jays after '14, but we got Cervelli out of the deal, so it really worked out well for us.
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, weak. You got to put some effort into it. Like, hey good for the Indians that Thome is going in as an Injun. Of course he never got a ring. Nor has any Indian in seven decades. Think of all the things that have happened since the last time the Indians won the Series. Men went to the Moon, Woodstock, the invention of the personal computer, disco, 70s bush gave way to clean shaven, cars that get more than single digit MPG, plastics, pizza and tacos went mainstream, the Tigers won the Series twice, the Pirates won the series thrice, every single thing mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", the invention of Mountain Dew (surely the nectar of the Gods), Alaska and Hawaii admitted to the Union, Korea, Vietnam, the start and finish of the Cold War, video games, central heat and air, cable TV, online porn, and a million other things. But it's not like anyone is paying attention to such things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g 
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:26:06 PM EDT
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Words hurt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Dude, weak. You got to put some effort into it. Like, hey good for the Indians that Thome is going in as an Injun. Of course he never got a ring. Nor has any Indian in seven decades. Think of all the things that have happened since the last time the Indians won the Series. Men went to the Moon, Woodstock, the invention of the personal computer, disco, 70s bush gave way to clean shaven, cars that get more than single digit MPG, plastics, pizza and tacos went mainstream, the Tigers won the Series twice, the Pirates won the series thrice, every single thing mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", the invention of Mountain Dew (surely the nectar of the Gods), Alaska and Hawaii admitted to the Union, Korea, Vietnam, the start and finish of the Cold War, video games, central heat and air, cable TV, online porn, and a million other things. But it's not like anyone is paying attention to such things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542gOf course I had to click and listen to that dumb song, lmao like he was personally insulting me the whole time. Since Diesel got booted, kugel (im sorry 'KEGAL') has easily taken his spot as my favorite poster. 
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:31:03 PM EDT
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Dude, weak. You got to put some effort into it. Like, hey good for the Indians that Thome is going in as an Injun. Of course he never got a ring. Nor has any Indian in seven decades. Think of all the things that have happened since the last time the Indians won the Series. Men went to the Moon, Woodstock, the invention of the personal computer, disco, 70s bush gave way to clean shaven, cars that get more than single digit MPG, plastics, pizza and tacos went mainstream, the Tigers won the Series twice, the Pirates won the series thrice, every single thing mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", the invention of Mountain Dew (surely the nectar of the Gods), Alaska and Hawaii admitted to the Union, Korea, Vietnam, the start and finish of the Cold War, video games, central heat and air, cable TV, online porn, and a million other things. But it's not like anyone is paying attention to such things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542gQuote HistoryQuoted:
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No one cares. Like, hey good for the Indians that Thome is going in as an Injun. Of course he never got a ring. Nor has any Indian in seven decades. Think of all the things that have happened since the last time the Indians won the Series. Men went to the Moon, Woodstock, the invention of the personal computer, disco, 70s bush gave way to clean shaven, cars that get more than single digit MPG, plastics, pizza and tacos went mainstream, the Tigers won the Series twice, the Pirates won the series thrice, every single thing mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", the invention of Mountain Dew (surely the nectar of the Gods), Alaska and Hawaii admitted to the Union, Korea, Vietnam, the start and finish of the Cold War, video games, central heat and air, cable TV, online porn, and a million other things. But it's not like anyone is paying attention to such things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
This is what I love about this thread, until late September when the fair weather/bandwagoneers show up, and start hitting the report button. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:46:58 PM EDT
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I will say I was bummed when Russell Martin went to the Jays after '14, but we got Cervelli out of the deal, so it really worked out well for us. |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 9:54:57 PM EDT
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 Attached FileOf course I'd love to see a repeat, maybe we will if we can count on the NYY taking care of the Indians for us again. I don't care what players they have in NY, I just don't see Aaron Boone climbing out the broadcast booth into the dugout and fielding a better "team" than Girardi did. Houston will likely have their hands full if they have to play Cleveland in the playoffs |
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Posted: 1/2/2018 10:09:27 PM EDT
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No one cares. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile Jim Thome is looking to be a lock as a guaranteed 1st ballot Hall of Famer. Hear that Steve? Jim Thome. 1st ballot Hall of Fame. An Indian from the start, took a 1 day contract to retire an Indian, goin into the hall as an Indian. Oom, yeah, uh-huh...
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/7/5/2/147470752/090415_thome_hr_med_50n997d8.gif 
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Posted: 1/3/2018 12:26:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, weak. You got to put some effort into it. Like, hey good for the Indians that Thome is going in as an Injun. Of course he never got a ring. Nor has any Indian in seven decades. Think of all the things that have happened since the last time the Indians won the Series. Men went to the Moon, Woodstock, the invention of the personal computer, disco, 70s bush gave way to clean shaven, cars that get more than single digit MPG, plastics, pizza and tacos went mainstream, the Tigers won the Series twice, the Pirates won the series thrice, every single thing mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", the invention of Mountain Dew (surely the nectar of the Gods), Alaska and Hawaii admitted to the Union, Korea, Vietnam, the start and finish of the Cold War, video games, central heat and air, cable TV, online porn, and a million other things. But it's not like anyone is paying attention to such things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 4:58:17 AM EDT
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So apparently JD Martínez has a five year offer from the BoSox and Hosmer has a seven year offer from the padres.
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Posted: 1/3/2018 8:57:27 AM EDT
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So apparently JD Martnez has a five year offer from the BoSox and Hosmer has a seven year offer from the padres. Reportedly JD Mart was offered over $200M. BoSox fans were raging out because I guess they were expecting Machado. Padres are continuing to try and tank thier franchise if offering average Eric Hosmer anything more than 10M a year for 10 years. He's worth about 7 imo but meh. |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 10:43:03 AM EDT
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The Royals have offered Hosmer $21mil a year for 7 years.
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Posted: 1/3/2018 11:36:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That Billy Joel reference just put it over the top and killed me. Of course I had to click and listen to that dumb song, lmao like he was personally insulting me the whole time. Since Diesel got booted, kugel (im sorry 'KEGAL') has easily taken his spot as my favorite poster.
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Posted: 1/3/2018 11:58:22 AM EDT
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Too much talk about the other 29 teams and not enough talk about the World Champion Astros of Houston Texas. I hope you guys aren't getting your hopes up. Stros will repeat. It will pretty much be a lock if they add a good lefty in the pen and another SP and maybe a closer that won't shit the bed in the postseason. I'm not exactly ready to give up on Giles due to his age and his stuff, but if another big time closer becomes available the Astros could use him. Barring any major injuries, the smart bet is the Astros to win it all again. Only a few teams are in contention for the crown and the Stros are the front runner. Have fun looking up all season boys!
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Posted: 1/3/2018 12:03:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. That post is great but it would have been much,much better if it had been about the Cubs. [youtube]playlist?list=PLuL26fXZ8eTNLLnugg2BTyOZQ7HT-QZk4[/youtube] |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 12:04:24 PM EDT
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Yeah I seen that yesterday. Reportedly JD Mart was offered over $200M. BoSox fans were raging out because I guess they were expecting Machado. Padres are continuing to try and tank thier franchise if offering average Eric Hosmer anything more than 10M a year for 10 years. He's worth about 7 imo but meh. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So apparently JD Martnez has a five year offer from the BoSox and Hosmer has a seven year offer from the padres. Reportedly JD Mart was offered over $200M. BoSox fans were raging out because I guess they were expecting Machado. Padres are continuing to try and tank thier franchise if offering average Eric Hosmer anything more than 10M a year for 10 years. He's worth about 7 imo but meh. |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 5:00:24 PM EDT
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Oh, you mean the History of the Twentieth Century? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=playlist?list=PLuL26fXZ8eTNLLnugg2BTyOZQ7HT-QZk4Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Same here. That post is great but it would have been much,much better if it had been about the Cubs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=playlist?list=PLuL26fXZ8eTNLLnugg2BTyOZQ7HT-QZk4 |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 5:48:13 PM EDT
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Too much talk about the other 29 teams and not enough talk about the World Champion Astros of Houston Texas. I hope you guys aren't getting your hopes up. Stros will repeat. It will pretty much be a lock if they add a good lefty in the pen and another SP and maybe a closer that won't shit the bed in the postseason. I'm not exactly ready to give up on Giles due to his age and his stuff, but if another big time closer becomes available the Astros could use him. Barring any major injuries, the smart bet is the Astros to win it all again. Only a few teams are in contention for the crown and the Stros are the front runner. Have fun looking up all season boys! You can continue... |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 8:17:43 PM EDT
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It looks like the Braves are interested in trading for Christian Yelich and JT Realmuto from the Marlins. It was bad enough for the Fish to trade Stanton and now those two? I guess Miami is going to gut the team and go into rebuilding mode, although I'm not sure why they would do that in the first place.
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Posted: 1/3/2018 8:18:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't you have a bottle of draino to finish off? |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 8:22:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryManny's farewell tour. 
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Posted: 1/3/2018 10:56:59 PM EDT
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The Royals have offered Hosmer $21mil a year for 7 years. I don’t see the Glass family spending that kind of money on one dude, either. I like Hos, and I’d like to see him stay somehow, but a contract like that does the organization more harm than good. It’s time to do a little rebuilding. |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 11:17:01 PM EDT
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If the Yankees don't win it this year, they will in 2019 after they sign Machado. Murderer's Row 2.0 is being built
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:29:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mellinger from the Star says that report is probably BS. I don’t see the Glass family spending that kind of money on one dude, either. I like Hos, and I’d like to see him stay somehow, but a contract like that does the organization more harm than good. It’s time to do a little rebuilding. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:40:01 AM EDT
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I like Hosmer as well but 147 million goes a long way to rebuilding a bullpen. Everyone wanted to keep Alex Gordon, they got what they wanted and he hasn't been worth the price paid imho.
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Posted: 1/4/2018 1:59:15 AM EDT
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Groundbreaking ceremony 56 years ago for the Astrodome.
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Posted: 1/4/2018 2:41:58 AM EDT
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Mellinger from the Star says that report is probably BS. I don’t see the Glass family spending that kind of money on one dude, either. I like Hos, and I’d like to see him stay somehow, but a contract like that does the organization more harm than good. It’s time to do a little rebuilding. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Royals have offered Hosmer $21mil a year for 7 years. I don’t see the Glass family spending that kind of money on one dude, either. I like Hos, and I’d like to see him stay somehow, but a contract like that does the organization more harm than good. It’s time to do a little rebuilding. sorry I'm a retard that can't read
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Posted: 1/4/2018 3:51:10 AM EDT
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Mellinger gave me a lift from the American Royal a few years ago, I had a few and talked shit on soccer the entire way to another bar in downtown. I like the dude, and I owe him a beer or 12, but I hope he's wrong. Hosmer is a pure ball player and it's worth whatever he cost to keep him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Mellinger from the Star says that report is probably BS. I don’t see the Glass family spending that kind of money on one dude, either. I like Hos, and I’d like to see him stay somehow, but a contract like that does the organization more harm than good. It’s time to do a little rebuilding. For starters, I think it would be best to avoid a Gordon or, worse, an Infante type situation. Beyond that, I think, is trying to determine what we want/expect to happen in the organization the next few years. The Royals were .500 in 2016 and .494 last year, and that's with the core intact. Moore, Glass, and the front office have made too many bad moves the last couple of years. Shoveling a bunch of money onto 1B to keep Hos around might prevent a new problem, but it won't fix any of the exiting problems, and it will limit resources to do so. I don't agree with the "blow it up and rebuild it" guys, but I also don't think spending huge money on one guy is a good idea when there's holes to fill. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 4:41:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hosmer is great, and he's future HoF material, but "whatever the cost" is not a sentiment I share. For starters, I think it would be best to avoid a Gordon or, worse, an Infante type situation. Beyond that, I think, is trying to determine what we want/expect to happen in the organization the next few years. The Royals were .500 in 2016 and .494 last year, and that's with the core intact. Moore, Glass, and the front office have made too many bad moves the last couple of years. Shoveling a bunch of money onto 1B to keep Hos around might prevent a new problem, but it won't fix any of the exiting problems, and it will limit resources to do so. I don't agree with the "blow it up and rebuild it" guys, but I also don't think spending huge money on one guy is a good idea when there's holes to fill. i'm not sure what the royals have to do to remain relevant, but it seems throwing a bunch of money at your hometown heroes may not be the best option. they may not have to blow it all up, but they gotta get some younger players and hopefully the kc farm is ok. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 8:37:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hosmer is great, and he's future HoF material, but "whatever the cost" is not a sentiment I share. For starters, I think it would be best to avoid a Gordon or, worse, an Infante type situation. Beyond that, I think, is trying to determine what we want/expect to happen in the organization the next few years. The Royals were .500 in 2016 and .494 last year, and that's with the core intact. Moore, Glass, and the front office have made too many bad moves the last couple of years. Shoveling a bunch of money onto 1B to keep Hos around might prevent a new problem, but it won't fix any of the exiting problems, and it will limit resources to do so. I don't agree with the "blow it up and rebuild it" guys, but I also don't think spending huge money on one guy is a good idea when there's holes to fill. But then that kind of agrees with what Manfred said about the Marlins. They've got 2 championships in recent history and many clubs would kill for that. Im an Indians fan. Would I trade a championship in my lifetime to have a complete dogshit team perpetually? I dunno. I think I'd rather have a competitive team that gets close and never does it. Our season ended badly last year. But it was the most fun season I've ever watched in my life. But of course I couldn't tell you what it's like for your team to win the WS either so there's that too. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 10:02:47 AM EDT
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I could see a team opting for mediocrity now for a strategy of building into greatness in a few years, but it doesn't make much sense to me when we're talking about small market teams like the Fish. They are never going to have the warchest like perpetual contender teams like the Yankees or the Red Sox, teams who just open the checkbook and buy whoever they want. Those small market teams are gutting themselves and in a few years will do it again.
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Posted: 1/4/2018 1:22:12 PM EDT
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from an outsider looking in, you guys caught lightening in a bottle with your homegrown talent the year you lost to SF, then kept the momentum going and went all in the next year to get a chip. i'm not sure what the royals have to do to remain relevant, but it seems throwing a bunch of money at your hometown heroes may not be the best option. they may not have to blow it all up, but they gotta get some younger players and hopefully the kc farm is ok. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Hosmer is great, and he's future HoF material, but "whatever the cost" is not a sentiment I share. For starters, I think it would be best to avoid a Gordon or, worse, an Infante type situation. Beyond that, I think, is trying to determine what we want/expect to happen in the organization the next few years. The Royals were .500 in 2016 and .494 last year, and that's with the core intact. Moore, Glass, and the front office have made too many bad moves the last couple of years. Shoveling a bunch of money onto 1B to keep Hos around might prevent a new problem, but it won't fix any of the exiting problems, and it will limit resources to do so. I don't agree with the "blow it up and rebuild it" guys, but I also don't think spending huge money on one guy is a good idea when there's holes to fill. i'm not sure what the royals have to do to remain relevant, but it seems throwing a bunch of money at your hometown heroes may not be the best option. they may not have to blow it all up, but they gotta get some younger players and hopefully the kc farm is ok. The Royals didn't pay for their WS championship with money like a big market team probably would. They paid for it with prospects, so the farm is in bad shape. The last two seasons weren't terrible, but they weren't particularly good. Last April in particular was very WTF. Defense is good for the most part, but the bats are weak, the starting pitching rotation has always been shaky, and the once glorious bullpen is a dumpster fire. I think the "blow it up" strategy is a guaranteed way to make the team suck in the near term with no real promise for improvement. I'd rather see the Royals try to patch the holes as best as they can within their budget. A guy like Hosmer can help if the price is right. I haven't heard any rumors about the Royals talking to any other free agents, and that bothers me. The good news with Hos is that he's only 28, but how much money do you want to spend on 1B? |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 1:47:26 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hosmer is great, and he's future HoF material, 
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