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Posted: 12/19/2017 1:53:27 PM EDT
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The humble escort carrier. Most were simply a merchant hull with a hanger and flight deck built on top. These little ships were extremely capable. They could launch the full range of modern fighters, including F6F Hellcats, F4U Corsairs, and Avenger Torpedo Bombers. Dive bombers were rarely carried but could have been. They weren't because the Dauntless had non-folding wings, and the Helldivers sucked. With a flight group of around 30 aircraft depending on class, three of these little conversions had the striking power of an Essex class fleet carrier. This is a capability we don't have today. Today, in order to launch a modern fighter you need a dedicated carrier such as the French Charles de Gaulle (42,000 tons).
Escort carriers were primarily used as convoy escorts, to support amphibious operations, and to ferry aircraft.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 2:09:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought it was that English fellow at Bletchley Park? |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 2:15:27 PM EDT
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This. Wikipedia is a great resource to point people toward primary sources, but is not authoritative. College and high school kids who cite to Wikipedia in their papers should get an automatic F on the assignment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
This. Wikipedia is a great resource to point people toward primary sources, but is not authoritative.
College and high school kids who cite to Wikipedia in their papers should get an automatic F on the assignment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 2:33:36 PM EDT
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You are both wrong. See the article below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This. Wikipedia is a great resource to point people toward primary sources, but is not authoritative.
College and high school kids who cite to Wikipedia in their papers should get an automatic F on the assignment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia 
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Posted: 12/19/2017 4:24:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are both wrong. See the article below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 6:12:35 PM EDT
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You are both wrong. See the article below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This. Wikipedia is a great resource to point people toward primary sources, but is not authoritative.
College and high school kids who cite to Wikipedia in their papers should get an automatic F on the assignment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia
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Posted: 12/19/2017 6:42:53 PM EDT
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Yep, God planned it that way. And God must hate Jews, since He, in His infinite wisdom, allowed millions of them to be killed. And God, the Supreme Being, looked down on Nanking, and smiled and what the Japanese did to the Chinese. And God, the Most Merciful, looked down upon Poland, the white Catholics and Jews, and cast His benevolence upon them as the were slaughtered by the Wehrmacht Or does God only intervene to help Americans? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The whole Battle of Midway is an example of Divine Intervention. For example, the USS Yorktown was so badly damaged at the Battle of the Coral Sea that the Navy believed it would take several weeks of repairs to make her seaworthy. The repair crews at Pearl were able to do it in two days and she was able to join the Enterprise and Hornet in time to contribute planes for the attack on the Japanese fleet. Dive bombers from the Yorktown were the ones which hit and sunk the Japanese carrier Soryu. Without the Yorktown at the battle the Soryu would have survived and added its planes to the attack on the US ships, which likely would have resulted in the damaging or sinking of both the Hornet and the Enterprise -- which would have in turn prevented the US from carrying out the Guadalcanal invasion a couple of months later. The entire US attack on the Japanese fleet lasted only six minutes, arguably the most decisive six minutes in naval warfare in the history of the world. And God must hate Jews, since He, in His infinite wisdom, allowed millions of them to be killed. And God, the Supreme Being, looked down on Nanking, and smiled and what the Japanese did to the Chinese. And God, the Most Merciful, looked down upon Poland, the white Catholics and Jews, and cast His benevolence upon them as the were slaughtered by the Wehrmacht Or does God only intervene to help Americans? |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 6:51:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cite? Germans were notorious for having shit recovery and repair capabilities and that their tanks were overly complicated. Specific to the battle of Kursk, germans had no ability to recover Tiger tanks except for using another Tiger. |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 6:51:56 PM EDT
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The reason the US carrier aircraft were able to hit the Japanese carriers first during the Battle of Midway was the float plane from the cruiser Tone assigned to the quadrant where the US carriers were located was delayed for some 30 minutes by catapult problems. By the time the scout got into the air and found the US fleet the American planes were already on the way to the Japanese carriers. In addition, the confusion created by the scout's report of finding ships where there were supposed to be none was one of the reasons the Japanese carrier decks were in chaotic disarray during the US attack: Admiral Nagumo abruptly ordered his planes, which had been armed for an attack on the island, to be re-armed with torpedoes and armor piercing bombs. As a result, there was a lot of loose munition as well as spilled avgas on the decks when the US dive bombers showed up. The Japanese carriers were at their most vulnerable moment possible when they were hit, which turned what would have been normally survivable bomb damage into massive infernos that doomed all of them. All because of a broken catapult. If that plane had left on time the Japanese would have struck the US fleet first and changed the course of the battle. 
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Posted: 12/19/2017 7:02:57 PM EDT
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Thousands and thousands of British & US POWs were "liberated" by the Soviet armies as they swept west.....the POWs were then moved to the relative safety of the east.... Straight into Siberian gulags!! Never to be heard from or seen again. Truman was aware and did nothing so as to not escalate the Cold War. The Brits were in a similar situation.  Some American POWs died during the various camp liberations at the end of World War II, but those individual cases are fairly well documented within military and personnel records. |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 7:06:10 PM EDT
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IIRC, the Poles had a very crude way of cracking the code that was not as fast and reliable as necessary. I believe elements of it went into Turing's Bletchley Park solution, but the bulk of the work was Turing's. At any rate, Poles surely didn't build a computer like Turing's. |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 8:01:03 PM EDT
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Lets not forget all those unbaptized african babies that starve to death. Or sent off to rapefugee camps. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The whole Battle of Midway is an example of Divine Intervention. For example, the USS Yorktown was so badly damaged at the Battle of the Coral Sea that the Navy believed it would take several weeks of repairs to make her seaworthy. The repair crews at Pearl were able to do it in two days and she was able to join the Enterprise and Hornet in time to contribute planes for the attack on the Japanese fleet. Dive bombers from the Yorktown were the ones which hit and sunk the Japanese carrier Soryu. Without the Yorktown at the battle the Soryu would have survived and added its planes to the attack on the US ships, which likely would have resulted in the damaging or sinking of both the Hornet and the Enterprise -- which would have in turn prevented the US from carrying out the Guadalcanal invasion a couple of months later. The entire US attack on the Japanese fleet lasted only six minutes, arguably the most decisive six minutes in naval warfare in the history of the world. And God must hate Jews, since He, in His infinite wisdom, allowed millions of them to be killed. And God, the Supreme Being, looked down on Nanking, and smiled and what the Japanese did to the Chinese. And God, the Most Merciful, looked down upon Poland, the white Catholics and Jews, and cast His benevolence upon them as the were slaughtered by the Wehrmacht Or does God only intervene to help Americans? 
Back on track: Units of the French Foreign Legion fought between themselves in the Syria-Lebanon Campaign, namely in the Battle of Damascus: Free French 13e DBLE vs. Vichy 6e REI. |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 8:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Communist revisionist history at its best.
Anyone can google the facts to see through your posts. Funny you bring up Vietnam. Boris Yeltsin acknowledged that US POWs were move out of Vietnam and put in soviet labor camps. None of which were repatriated So there is that. Also, as far as I can see, Yeltsin and "Gorbachev archives" had unconfirmed claims about couple dozen un-returned POWs at most. From Vietnam. How does that confirm the conspiracy theory that "thousands and thousands" of GIs were shipped to Gulags by Stalin? EDIT: Quick google in English and Russian turned up ONE name: John D. Griffiths. Another quick google found out that the guy was never in USSR. http://www.dpaa.mil/News-Stories/Recent-News-Stories/Article/988573/soldier-missing-from-korean-war-identified-griffiths/ http://inosmi.ru/social/20161115/238205696.html |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 8:25:55 PM EDT
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Ampulomet (ampule thrower) is one forgotten weapon from WWII. Kind of similar to British Home Guard weapons, it was a large tube that launched 3.5 pound glass balls filled with basically napalm (incendiary phosphorous mix), using either a blank cartridge or a potato gun type mechanism. A tripod-mounted weapon with a max range of about 150m, it was apparently rather ineffective except in ambushes and against bunkers, but certainly better than running at a tank with a Molotov cocktail. Used by Red Army in small numbers in 41-42.
(I bet 21st century surge of interest in this weapon has to do with CMBB video game, at least that's how I first heard about it )
There was also a butylkomet (bottle thrower), which was a rifle grenade launcher type attachment for a Mosin to launch Molotov cocktails. Unfortunately the inventor took too long to perfect the weapon, so it was largely obsolete by the time of army trials, and only 1200 were made IIRC. Another problem was that bottles don't fly with any sort of accuracy, so getting accurate hits at range required specially shaped aerodynamic "bottles" shaped more or less like a mortar mine. 
EDIT: Found a decent article on ampulomet and some other subjects (improvised tractor-tanks, 1938-39 USSR-Japan clashes, etc.) at link below. Also the famous story of a US Paratrooper who repeatedly escaped German POW camps until he joined up with the Red Army http://peashooter85.tumblr.com/post/65960356990/the-soviet-125mm-ampulomet-at-the-height-of-the |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 12:35:34 AM EDT
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Finland and Nazi Germany were allies. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 10:24:13 AM EDT
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When Gen Mark Clark died April 17, 1984, he was the last surviving officer who held the rank of 4 Star General in WWII.
<a>Wiki Link</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_W._Clark"> </a> |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:44:38 PM EDT
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Britain built the ugliest heavy bomber in all of WW2.
But some sexy amazing fighters. 
As a farm kid, all I see in that Spitfire pic is a farmer that likes rape... |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 4:01:37 PM EDT
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The Japanese knee mortar was not fired from the knee.
Doing so broke a few legs until the Americans figured out that it was a bad idea. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 4:11:52 PM EDT
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Immediately after the war’s end, over 500,000 ethnic Germans were slaughtered.
Mostly in the Sudetenland. A concentration camp was reopened and run as a “punishment” camp. I do not remember the guy’s name, but the guy who ran it was a Jew who lost his family in the Holocaust. Saw a fantastic documentary on the subject on either Netflix or Amazon Prime. Bet you never learned about that in public school. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 4:24:53 PM EDT
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Britain built the ugliest heavy bomber in all of WW2. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/29/1409330967568_wps_55_lancaster_bomber_http_www.jpg Cuz the Farman F.221 was a thing
The Lancaster has to be seen in person to be appreciated. It's a SEXY beast. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 4:55:26 PM EDT
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Are you specifically referring to aircraft developed during WWII? Or aircraft used during the war regardless of when they were designed? Cuz the Farman F.221 was a thing
http://antikotler.ru/uploads/images/yandbtm_files/f221.jpg The Lancaster has to be seen in person to be appreciated. It's a SEXY beast. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 5:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet some refuse to believe that God is in total control of history. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 5:52:56 PM EDT
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Adolph Hitler was a real jerk.
(From norm macdonald) |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 5:54:16 PM EDT
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In Germany and the occupied territories, the Luftwaffe would survey every allied aircraft crash site for intel, UX, human remains, etc. Details of any KIA (or POW) would be forwarded to the International Red Cross and eventually to loved ones back in the states.
After the war, these records were captured and translated. You can view the translations as well as the originals at NARA in College Park, MD. Dog tags from any deceased are stapled to a page in these reports. One dog tag attached to the report, the other with the deceased, when possible. Earlier this year or late in the last, authorities popped some [multiple CoC violations] 'researcher' for stealing dog tags from the archives and selling them. I have a query in to see if my grandfather's dog tag is still where it's supposed to be. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:01:32 PM EDT
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If the War had not ended when it did, an awful lot of us wouldn't be reading this now, because our dads/granddads would have been killed in Operation Olympic/Coronet-- my Dad was sitting in an Amtrac in Manila waiting to go in the first wave--
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:04:50 PM EDT
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I actually just heard that rumor in the past year or so and did some homework. In fact, the Norden bombsight had etched reticles and never used human hair as far as anyone can tell(other sights did) The date she donated her hair was already well after the Norden Bombsight was being fielded. She donated her hair, as did many others, as a patriotic duty and the rumor kind of grew from there. the fact her hair had never been cut (and she was active in politics) made it a somewhat special story. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Then I was misinformed. You've been an excellent source of historical information on GD. Correction? The date she donated her hair was already well after the Norden Bombsight was being fielded. She donated her hair, as did many others, as a patriotic duty and the rumor kind of grew from there. the fact her hair had never been cut (and she was active in politics) made it a somewhat special story. I did. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:05:21 PM EDT
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Huh, wiki says it was the first Allied plane to bomb Berlin. 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:21:20 PM EDT
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Australia planned to evacuate the northern portion of their country in the event the Japanese tried to take the country with a land invasion.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:25:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those WW1 era, and holdover designs were just ugly. Proof of concept planes, since there were so many manufacturers, but some of them were just... 
American 30's color schemes were wonderful: 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:39:59 PM EDT
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Argentinian Ballester Molina .45ACP pistols are NOT made from steel scavenged from the German cruiser Graf Spee which was scuttled in the River Platte.
Admiral Spee himself came to his end on a German cruiser off the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic in 1914. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:44:24 PM EDT
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Argentinian Ballester Molina .45ACP pistols are NOT made from steel scavenged from the German cruiser Graf Spee which was scuttled in the River Platte. Admiral Spee himself came to his end on a German cruiser off the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic in 1914. I always thought they were. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:47:31 PM EDT
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For all the crap the French get for their supposed propensity to surrender, they really showed their worth at several points in WW2 and the evacuation at Dunkirk would not have been possible without them. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 7:01:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2017 7:02:24 PM EDT
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Everyone at least in passing, is familiar with the British sinking of the Battleship Bismarck, including that she was escorted by the heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen. What very few have ever seemed to connect is the Prinz Eugen was named for Prince Eugene of Savoy, the partner of the First Duke of Marlborough at the Battle of Blenheim against the French.
And even if someone did notice that, they never seem to realize that the First Duke of Marlborough was named John Churchill. Yes, the Churchills who live in Blenheim Palace, Blenheim Palace where Winston Churchill was born. Churchill who greatly valued British history, and his families history (his Grandfather was 7th Duke of Marlborough). I have always wondered what quip Churchill made about the Royal Navy, of which he had been First Lord of the Admiralty in WW1, chasing and trying to sink the German Ship named after a British and particularly Churchill ally. See the story his private secretary tell at 9:50  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 7:30:36 PM EDT
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awesome stories - keep em coming
any recommendations for a book on the naval war in the pacific? |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 7:34:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a difference between being a liar and telling you what you may want to hear or simply exaggerating greatly. While yes,there was a large emphasis on Nazi indoctrination in German schools the notion that there was no actual education going on is simply absurd. Just consider how disfunctional Germany would have been post-war if it was true that a generation had completely lost competence in math and science. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 7:35:52 PM EDT
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Every German agent in the U.K. was a double agent working for the Brits. The Germans were really bad at spying.
Hitler dedicated a material amount of logistical resources to making movies instead of the war effort. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 7:43:37 PM EDT
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Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (older brother of JFK) died arming explosives on a radio controlled b-17 being tested during the war. Pretty interesting mission.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy_Jr. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 8:06:00 PM EDT
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One of the few remaining PzKpfw IV's was captured by the Israelis from Syria on the Golan Heights. It was in Danville, VA at the tank museum, not sure if it is still there. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50910/IMG_0931-394502.JPG |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 8:31:32 PM EDT
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During WWII, "Hamburgers" were renamed "Liberty Steaks". 
Would you like some Freedom Fries with that?
"Salisbury Steak" came from WWI. 
The term "Salisbury steak" has been in use in the United States since 1897.[1] The dish is named after an American physician, James H. Salisbury (1823–1905).[1][2] The dish is popular in the United States, where it is traditionally served with gravy and mashed potatoes or pasta. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 8:32:06 PM EDT
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Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (older brother of JFK) died arming explosives on a radio controlled b-17 being tested during the war. Pretty interesting mission. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy_Jr. |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 12:54:49 AM EDT
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In this case "from a single woman" I believe meant "from one woman".....you know grammar and all..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The crosshairs on the Norden bombsight all came from a single woman. Important to use FINE hair on a precision bomb sight like the Norden... |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 1:10:10 AM EDT
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The He-100 was sold to the Japanese. It was a faster airplane than the Me-109 but Willie was a favorite of the Nazis (thank God politics backfired there). It may have had some influence on the Japanese: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/He_100D_colour.jpg/300px-He_100D_colour.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/800px-???????????_He_100_?_???_???_1940.jpg/250px-800px-???????????_He_100_?_???_???_1940.jpg KI-61, nicknamed Tony. It had an engine based on the Daimler Benz. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Kawasaki_Ki-61-14.jpg/300px-Kawasaki_Ki-61-14.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Kawasaki_Ki-61.jpg/220px-Kawasaki_Ki-61.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The following is completely unsubstantiated... I was told the other day that the Japanese had some Messerschmidt 109's or domestically produced German designs. I'm skeptical but would like to confirm.  https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/He_100D_colour.jpg/300px-He_100D_colour.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/800px-???????????_He_100_?_???_???_1940.jpg/250px-800px-???????????_He_100_?_???_???_1940.jpg KI-61, nicknamed Tony. It had an engine based on the Daimler Benz. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Kawasaki_Ki-61-14.jpg/300px-Kawasaki_Ki-61-14.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Kawasaki_Ki-61.jpg/220px-Kawasaki_Ki-61.jpg Fun Fact - the Czech made Avia S-199 were Bf-109 Airframes fitted with leftover Jumo V-12 engine (most often used in HE-111) which turned the prop in the opposite direction as the typical Damlier Benz V-12 normally used in the Bf-109. The difference in airflow over the vertical stabilizer, Plus the torque from the wide bladed prop (combined with the narrow track landing gear from the Bf109) made the Avia S-199 an especially dangerous aircraft to fly. One of the first fighters of the new Israeli Airforce? The Nazi Bf109 inspired Avia-199 naturally! |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 12:07:59 PM EDT
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If the War had not ended when it did, an awful lot of us wouldn't be reading this now, because our dads/granddads would have been killed in Operation Olympic/Coronet-- my Dad was sitting in an Amtrac in Manila waiting to go in the first wave-- |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 2:28:43 PM EDT
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In WWII, the free cigarettes included in GI rations likely killed more Americans than enemy action.
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Posted: 12/21/2017 2:43:10 PM EDT
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Yeah, this one is just wrong. Many were lost, but not "More than in combat". Just, no. No, man. Fuck no, man! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Allied aircraft were lost between the factory & the delivery airfield than were lost in combat.  Source, my father, an accident investigator at LAFB. |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 3:32:28 PM EDT
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We lost more planes at Luke Air Force base in the last 6th months of the war that we did to all combat losses, in all theaters. Source, my father, an accident investigator at LAFB. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Allied aircraft were lost between the factory & the delivery airfield than were lost in combat. Source, my father, an accident investigator at LAFB. ETA: From the statistics I've skimmed just now, it looks like we had just under 48,000 military aircraft accidents in the continental US during the entire war, which included 12,506 wrecked aircraft (of ALL types... total wrecked trainers was 4,817). 1944 had by far the most accidents at over 14,500 4,244 wrecked); 1945 had a total of 5,436 (1,132 wrecked). |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 6:08:51 PM EDT
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We lost at least 23,000 in combat in WWII depending on what source you use. Are you telling me that Luke Air Force Base was losing a minimum average of 128 aircraft a day? Like 5 per hour? ETA: From the statistics I've skimmed just now, it looks like we had just under 48,000 military aircraft accidents in the continental US during the entire war, which included 12,506 wrecked aircraft (of ALL types... total wrecked trainers was 4,817). 1944 had by far the most accidents at over 14,500 4,244 wrecked); 1945 had a total of 5,436 (1,132 wrecked). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Allied aircraft were lost between the factory & the delivery airfield than were lost in combat. Source, my father, an accident investigator at LAFB. ETA: From the statistics I've skimmed just now, it looks like we had just under 48,000 military aircraft accidents in the continental US during the entire war, which included 12,506 wrecked aircraft (of ALL types... total wrecked trainers was 4,817). 1944 had by far the most accidents at over 14,500 4,244 wrecked); 1945 had a total of 5,436 (1,132 wrecked). |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 7:33:27 PM EDT
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Well, the last 6 months would have included only the tail end of the European theater. The Japanese didn't have a whole bunch of air left in '45. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Allied aircraft were lost between the factory & the delivery airfield than were lost in combat. Source, my father, an accident investigator at LAFB. ETA: From the statistics I've skimmed just now, it looks like we had just under 48,000 military aircraft accidents in the continental US during the entire war, which included 12,506 wrecked aircraft (of ALL types... total wrecked trainers was 4,817). 1944 had by far the most accidents at over 14,500 4,244 wrecked); 1945 had a total of 5,436 (1,132 wrecked). |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 7:35:43 PM EDT
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My Dad was exiting a radio room on the bridge of the Yorktown which was right next to a ladder, he came out in a hurry and kicked someone in the face coming up. He looked down, saw four stripes, heard a lot of swearing and realized he had kicked the Captain, JJ Clark, in the face. He turned and ran the other way, the next day the ship was trying to figure out who kicked the old man. |
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