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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:34:08 PM EDT
[#1]
They ought post:
Wanted: Dead, or Alive. REWARD. notices with his picture on the intertubes. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:35:17 PM EDT
[#2]
I look forward to aiding and abetting warrents to those who provide sanctuary, as well.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:35:59 PM EDT
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no other sources at the moment |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:36:02 PM EDT
[#4]
A-freakin-men.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:37:11 PM EDT
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Do not worry because after his stint is up in Cali prison they will release him just hours before the Feds are going to swing by to scoop him up.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:37:12 PM EDT
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They ought post: Wanted: Dead, or Alive. REWARD. notices with his picture on the intertubes. I wish we could still haul in fugitives like that on our own. Round up some pipe hittin' motherfuckers, form a posse, and go take care of that business. Sounds like a grand ol' time. Hell, they can even keep the reward. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:37:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:37:58 PM EDT
[#8]
Since there in San Franistan, when they catch him they should throw him in a rusty cell on Alcatraz since its close.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:38:43 PM EDT
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Well, they can't try him for murder I don't think. Not because of double jeopardy, but because there is no federal murder law that could apply to him.
They can try him for gun crimes, and other petty crimes related to his legal status. But that's about it. The upshot of this, is he will be deported one more time... 
Oooh, there is one other possibility: The Civil Right division deciding that they will prosecute him for violating Kate's civil right to life. It has happened before. Joseph Paul Franklin was acquitted of murder in SLC, but was then tried for violating the victim's right to life, and was convicted, if I'm not mistaken. Died in prison. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:40:23 PM EDT
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Since there in San Franistan, when they catch him they should throw him in a rusty cell on Alcatraz since its close. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:41:53 PM EDT
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Do not worry because after his stint is up in Cali prison they will release him just hours before the Feds are going to swing by to scoop him up. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:42:44 PM EDT
[#12]
f'ing san francisco.
I get that a case might not have been made for deliberate murder, but that sure as shit was manslaughter or negligent homicide. if you shot a bullet randomly and killed someone, you'd sure as shit go to jail over it. san fran is effectively another country at this point I guess. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:43:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about a nice flight back to mexico where he can be dropped with out a chute from 40k into their capital. Staple a note to his balls that mexican nationals killing Americans will be met with the death penalty. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:43:19 PM EDT
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New sheriff in town asshole and he knows who you are.
Maybe you should have told you cocky liberal lawyer to shut his cock trap. Hope you rot mother fucker! |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:43:28 PM EDT
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Well, they can't try him for murder I don't think. Not because of double jeopardy, but because there is no federal murder law that could apply to him. They can try him for gun crimes, and other petty crimes related to his legal status. But that's about it. The upshot of this, is he will be deported one more time...
Oooh, there is one other possibility: The Civil Right division deciding that they will prosecute him for violating Kate's civil right to life. It has happened before. Joseph Paul Franklin was acquitted of murder in SLC, but was then tried for violating the victim's right to life, and was convicted, if I'm not mistaken. Died in prison. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:48:23 PM EDT
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I get different jurisdictions and the Feds can find any number of things to charge someone with...
...but... ...there is something really unsettling about the Feds not getting involved until a state trial doesn't get the outcome the government wanted. It seems to violate the spirit of Double Jeopardy. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:51:25 PM EDT
[#17]
922?
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:53:09 PM EDT
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I get different jurisdictions and the Feds can find any number of things to charge someone with... ...but... ...there is something really unsettling about the Feds not getting involved until a state trial doesn't get the outcome the government wanted. It seems to violate the spirit of Double Jeopardy. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:54:37 PM EDT
[#19]
it's beautiful
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:57:08 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, and it never has. States and Fedgov have concurrent jurisdiction, and as long as they aren't trying him on the same state charges, then they're free to go after him on other charges. It just doesn't sit well with me. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 5:58:24 PM EDT
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What would the charges be? They would have to be new ones
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:00:36 PM EDT
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I get different jurisdictions and the Feds can find any number of things to charge someone with... ...but... ...there is something really unsettling about the Feds not getting involved until a state trial doesn't get the outcome the government wanted. It seems to violate the spirit of Double Jeopardy. Different jurisdiction, and the feds aren't going to prosecute for the same crime. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:01:42 PM EDT
[#23]
The DOJ has actually done something?
About time. Hillary still walks free. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:03:31 PM EDT
[#24]
He's an illegal and a felon, no?
Not disturbed by this at all. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:04:11 PM EDT
[#25]
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there is something really unsettling about the Feds not getting involved until a state trial doesn't get the outcome the government wanted. It seems to violate the spirit of Double Jeopardy. It's no different than multiple states trying the same guy for crimes he committed in each of them. OTOH, if the guy is convicted and receives a heavy sentence in one trial, there's less incentive for spending more time and taxpayer money on the other trial(s). |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:05:12 PM EDT
[#26]
I suspect being a criminal illegal alien possessing a firearm, violation of civil rights, criminal reentry into the United States, Theft of Government Property ect. I hope the POS hangs.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:06:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Try him as an enemy combatant.
He came to our country illegally, promptly broke our laws, kept breaking our laws and ended up killing a US citizen, how could that not be an enemy combatant |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he's accused of violating both state and federal laws, he should be subject to prosecution for both. It's no different than multiple states trying the same guy for crimes he committed in each of them. OTOH, if the guy is convicted and receives a heavy sentence in one trial, there's less incentive for spending more time and taxpayer money on the other trial(s). |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:08:59 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm good with it.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:09:12 PM EDT
[#30]
I'd prefer to see the DA and judge investigated. There is no way that guy got off without some sort of criminal conspiracy.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:11:33 PM EDT
[#31]
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I'd prefer to see the DA and judge investigated. There is no way that guy got off without some sort of criminal conspiracy. Not sure that you can investigate a DA for losing a case though. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:12:38 PM EDT
[#32]
I hope he gets charged and has to to years and dies of syphilis
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:12:38 PM EDT
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I get it from a legal standpoint, but there is just something not quite right about the Feds saying "the state didn't get it right, so we'll do it". They did the same thing with the cops after Rodney King. Cops were acquitted at the state trail, then the Feds came in and got them in a show trial. It just doesn't sit well with me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No, and it never has. States and Fedgov have concurrent jurisdiction, and as long as they aren't trying him on the same state charges, then they're free to go after him on other charges. It just doesn't sit well with me. The crux of the biscuit is what are the Feds going to charge the shit bag with? If it's done with the intent of getting conviction for crimes he has been found not guilty of, then it would be, in my uneducated opinion, Double Jeopardy. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:15:28 PM EDT
[#34]
Maga!!! Trump was pissed at the outcome!!!!
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:16:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Possible charges off the top of my head:
Illegal entry of an aggravated felon (that carries a possible 20 year sentence) Prohibited person in possession of a firearm Use of a firearm in commission of a felony Supervised release violations I'm sure they will have more. They are going to throw everything they can at this guy. Good luck ignoring the US Marshals' detainer. Whoever conspires to disobey that one will likely be charged with several violations themselves. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:16:33 PM EDT
[#36]
I can fairly well guarantee the "arrest warrant" is an immigration warrant. A detainer was probably issued for him, but Kali being Kali, I'm sure he was ushered out of the courtroom and released as soon as they could. Probably had his personal belongings, clothes, etc., from the prison waiting for him at the courtroom, in case of a not-guilty verdict; anything to avoid turning him over to ICE.
Immigration detainer not honored, warrant issued. Simple as that. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:22:35 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I get different jurisdictions and the Feds can find any number of things to charge someone with... ...but... ...there is something really unsettling about the Feds not getting involved until a state trial doesn't get the outcome the government wanted. It seems to violate the spirit of Double Jeopardy. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:23:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Label him a terrorist and drop his ass in Gitmo and waterboard him daily for the rest of his life.
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:25:37 PM EDT
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I look forward to aiding and abetting warrents to those who provide sanctuary, as well. Every politician & every cop/deputy/CO/judge who helps him escape needs to be dragged to federal prison... |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:26:01 PM EDT
[#40]
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Well, they can't try him for murder I don't think. Not because of double jeopardy, but because there is no federal murder law that could apply to him. They can try him for gun crimes, and other petty crimes related to his legal status. But that's about it. The upshot of this, is he will be deported one more time...
Oooh, there is one other possibility: The Civil Right division deciding that they will prosecute him for violating Kate's civil right to life. It has happened before. Joseph Paul Franklin was acquitted of murder in SLC, but was then tried for violating the victim's right to life, and was convicted, if I'm not mistaken. Died in prison. 
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:27:15 PM EDT
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Maga!!! Trump was pissed at the outcome!!!! Sessions is such a pussy that I doubt he'll do anything though. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:28:38 PM EDT
[#42]
Please provide the citation to the Federal Civil Rights Law that could potentially apply to this private person.
He was not acting under the color of law from any of the facts revealed thus far. Its not a slavery case or a hate crime (at least from the facts revealed). No official misconduct by the illegal. No abuse or exploitation of migrant workers. Doesn't involve housing, religion, preventing someone from voting or accessing health care. So, exactly what Federal Civil Rights law did the illegal allegedly violate? Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:30:12 PM EDT
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Felon in possession and stealing firearms is generally looked down on by the feds Quote HistoryQuoted:
Felon in possession and stealing firearms is generally looked down on by the feds Garcia Zarate was found guilty of being a felon in possession of a firearm. He could face up to three years in state prison for that charge, although he has already served more than two years behind bars and could get credit for time served. ETA: He isn't going anywhere, yet. 
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:30:19 PM EDT
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Good luck ignoring the US Marshals' detainer. Whoever conspires to disobey that one will likely be charged with several violations themselves. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:30:52 PM EDT
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They ought post: Wanted: Dead, or Alive. REWARD. notices with his picture on the intertubes. When do we build the wall and install the deportation catapults again? 
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:31:09 PM EDT
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Please provide the citation to the Federal Civil Rights Law that could potentially apply to this private person. He was not acting under the color of law from any of the facts revealed thus far. Its not a slavery case or a hate crime (at least from the facts revealed). No official misconduct by the illegal. No abuse or exploitation of migrant workers. Doesn't involve housing, religion, preventing someone from voting or accessing health care. So, exactly what Federal Civil Rights law did the illegal allegedly violate? Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:32:12 PM EDT
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I'd prefer to see the DA and judge investigated. There is no way that guy got off without some sort of criminal conspiracy. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:33:05 PM EDT
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It is possible he shot that girl because she was white. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please provide the citation to the Federal Civil Rights Law that could potentially apply to this private person. He was not acting under the color of law from any of the facts revealed thus far. Its not a slavery case or a hate crime (at least from the facts revealed). No official misconduct by the illegal. No abuse or exploitation of migrant workers. Doesn't involve housing, religion, preventing someone from voting or accessing health care. So, exactly what Federal Civil Rights law did the illegal allegedly violate? Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:33:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
... it was proven to be a ricochet Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please provide the citation to the Federal Civil Rights Law that could potentially apply to this private person. He was not acting under the color of law from any of the facts revealed thus far. Its not a slavery case or a hate crime (at least from the facts revealed). No official misconduct by the illegal. No abuse or exploitation of migrant workers. Doesn't involve housing, religion, preventing someone from voting or accessing health care. So, exactly what Federal Civil Rights law did the illegal allegedly violate? Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 6:34:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
It is possible he shot that girl because she was white. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please provide the citation to the Federal Civil Rights Law that could potentially apply to this private person. He was not acting under the color of law from any of the facts revealed thus far. Its not a slavery case or a hate crime (at least from the facts revealed). No official misconduct by the illegal. No abuse or exploitation of migrant workers. Doesn't involve housing, religion, preventing someone from voting or accessing health care. So, exactly what Federal Civil Rights law did the illegal allegedly violate? Thanks. |
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