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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:05:21 AM EDT
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Apparently there is NO FUCKING JOB that Americans will do anymore.... I wouldn't work as a teacher in Dekalb county. 
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:06:59 AM EDT
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The teacher "shortage" is actually a lack of teachers willing to take entry level jobs in shit districts. Post an opening for a grade school teacher in an affluent district and you suddenly have thousands of applications.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:08:36 AM EDT
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Americans will do any job if firms pay the corresponding market price.
If firms are unwilling to pay, they can hire politicians to import replacement labor and drive prices down. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:12:36 AM EDT
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Kick out the illegals, then kick the worthless fucks off welfare..they will find a job and stop being a drain on society...
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:13:30 AM EDT
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Why would I go to college to earn $20k a year?
dont know how you are going to fix it though, I mean the only way to pay teachers more is to tax the living fuck out of the people who live in the district, which typically makes people move away. then you are back to square one |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:13:52 AM EDT
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The teacher "shortage" is actually a lack of teachers willing to take entry level jobs in shit districts. Post an opening for a grade school teacher in an affluent district and you suddenly have thousands of applications. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:14:40 AM EDT
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Would you work as a teacher in the crappy parts of Houston, Chicago, Atlanta, LA, etc? Cause if DACA kids want to do that, we should give them waivers to stay.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:16:15 AM EDT
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LOL at teacher shortage. They're picky. My wife's cousin graduated and only wants to teach high school history. Anything else is beneath him. He's working at Menard's and living in mom and dad's basement. No, I'm not kidding.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:16:39 AM EDT
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The teacher "shortage" is actually a lack of teachers willing to take entry level jobs in shit districts. Post an opening for a grade school teacher in an affluent district and you suddenly have thousands of applications. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:17:55 AM EDT
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Why would I go to college to earn $20k a year? dont know how you are going to fix it though, I mean the only way to pay teachers more is to tax the living fuck out of the people who live in the district, which typically makes people move away. then you are back to square one Everything should be "University of Phoenix Online" essentially.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:25:45 AM EDT
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Kick out the illegals, then kick the worthless fucks off welfare..they will find a job and stop being a drain on society...
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:27:53 AM EDT
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The whole 'we need illegals because Americans won't do certain jobs' argument is crap.
Finding people to do shitty work for shitty pay isn't a solution. Americans won't work in the fields and pick fruit? Let their be a shortage, and subsidize automation. In the long run it will work out. Teacher's don't want to teach ghetto goblin crotch fruit for 30k a year? Clean up the school system and let teachers retake control of their classrooms. The root problem is the jobs suck, the solution is making them suck less. Using illegals is like having a leaking pipe in your basement and just directing the water to the sump pump... and calling it fixed. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:30:22 AM EDT
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LOL at teacher shortage. They're picky. My wife's cousin graduated and only wants to teach high school history. Anything else is beneath him. He's working at Menard's and living in mom and dad's basement. No, I'm not kidding. State licensing for high school teachers often locks them into one subject. For example, if you have a social studies license, you can only teach history, government, econ, geography. Math teachers can only teach math. To get additional licenses, you have to complete more college (often enough classes for a minor in that subject). Add to that "High Quality Teacher" requirements (above and beyond the license) and it's damn hard and expensive to be a multi-subject teacher. Especially when inner city districts want to pay low wages. People treat those jobs like what they are - stepping stones to higher paying opportunities. He legitimately may not legally be able to teach anything other than social studies. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:31:15 AM EDT
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Americans won't be doctors. Too good for that. Thank the Billy Kristols for informing us.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/another-jobs-americans-just-wont-do-doctor/ |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:35:41 AM EDT
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Americans won't be doctors. Too good for that. Thank the Billy Kristols for informing us. http://www.unz.com/isteve/another-jobs-americans-just-wont-do-doctor/ |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:39:18 AM EDT
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How many of that 20,000 are credentialed, masters holding teachers and not uncredentialed BA holding fluff subject teachers like art or music or private school teachers?
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:40:34 AM EDT
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No sympathy. They had plenty of time to get their citizenship they just chose not to do so.
Go teach in Mexico. Maybe they can educate the people down there enough that they will change their corrupt government. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:52:45 AM EDT
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The whole 'we need illegals because Americans won't do certain jobs' argument is crap. Finding people to do shitty work for shitty pay isn't a solution. Americans won't work in the fields and pick fruit? Let their be a shortage, and subsidize automation. In the long run it will work out. Teacher's don't want to teach ghetto goblin crotch fruit for 30k a year? Clean up the school system and let teachers retake control of their classrooms. The root problem is the jobs suck, the solution is making them suck less. Using illegals is like having a leaking pipe in your basement and just directing the water to the sump pump... and calling it fixed. How do we make teaching jobs suck less? Pay more, and/or let teachers take control of the classrooms. Explain to parents that their childrens' misbehavior will not be tolerated and expell students for being bad apples. Flunk kids for not performing, instead of forcing them ahead. I grew up and went to school in the city- 20 years ago. I know how bad kids were then, I can only imagine how bad kids are now. We had one teacher when I was in elementary school, who was a real old school teacher. She used to whoop kids with the yardstick (I don't think any of us realized this was illegal). There was no getting sent to the principal. Shit got settled in her classroom, she was in control, and we were behaved because acting up wasn't an option. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:10:20 AM EDT
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Why would I go to college to earn $20k a year? dont know how you are going to fix it though, I mean the only way to pay teachers more is to tax the living fuck out of the people who live in the district, which typically makes people move away. then you are back to square one |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:14:05 AM EDT
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Depends on who you ask.
I've got two degrees but if I find myself out of work suddenly no job is beneath me. I need to work to pay for things. Scrubbing toilets, teaching little shits, digging ditches, whatever. Work is work and if it doesn't pay the bills then I get a second job. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:14:22 AM EDT
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The whole 'we need illegals because Americans won't do certain jobs' argument is crap. Finding people to do shitty work for shitty pay isn't a solution. Americans won't work in the fields and pick fruit? Let their be a shortage, and subsidize automation. In the long run it will work out. Teacher's don't want to teach ghetto goblin crotch fruit for 30k a year? Clean up the school system and let teachers retake control of their classrooms. The root problem is the jobs suck, the solution is making them suck less. Using illegals is like having a leaking pipe in your basement and just directing the water to the sump pump... and calling it fixed. The big problem is that illegals will work for less, and the shit jobs are also competing against the government benefits for doing nothing at all. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:15:44 AM EDT
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Kick out the illegals, then kick the worthless fucks off welfare..they will find a job and stop being a drain on society... Any jobs left over we can come up with some form of guest worker program with draconian enforcement measures for anyone that hires an illegal alien. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:16:54 AM EDT
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Would you hire someone who's previous employment was "Collected welfare for 20 years"? |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:19:46 AM EDT
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We Saudi now!
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:25:17 AM EDT
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We used to consider the school dist. I worked for a "training district". Teachers fresh out of college would work here for a year or two, get some experience, then move off to a better paying school district.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:29:50 AM EDT
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How do we make teaching jobs suck less? Pay more, and/or let teachers take control of the classrooms. Explain to parents that their childrens' misbehavior will not be tolerated and expell students for being bad apples. Flunk kids for not performing, instead of forcing them ahead. 
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:39:39 AM EDT
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Why would I go to college to earn $20k a year? dont know how you are going to fix it though, I mean the only way to pay teachers more is to tax the living fuck out of the people who live in the district, which typically makes people move away. then you are back to square one |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:46:36 AM EDT
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I'm thinking that if we get rid of the of the BS administrators that would free up a ton of money. Why does every school district need all of these administrators. Why can't you have one of two for each county. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:53:48 AM EDT
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Not saying this is the issue, but... State licensing for high school teachers often locks them into one subject. For example, if you have a social studies license, you can only teach history, government, econ, geography. Math teachers can only teach math. To get additional licenses, you have to complete more college (often enough classes for a minor in that subject). Add to that "High Quality Teacher" requirements (above and beyond the license) and it's damn hard and expensive to be a multi-subject teacher. Especially when inner city districts want to pay low wages. People treat those jobs like what they are - stepping stones to higher paying opportunities. He legitimately may not legally be able to teach anything other than social studies. If his degree is in history and his certificate is in social studies, that is all he can teach for now. If he wants a job, start subbing for everything. Eventually he will find a niche, the admin will take notice, and he will get hired. Once you have experience you can take additional classes and test for additional certificates. I taught in a title 1 school. They are easier to get hired on at, since they are ghetto. The goal is to transfer to an affluent suburb and escape the hood. Most teachers at bad schools burnout or escape within a few years. The kids are bad in shit schools, but the parents and admin are worse. You become a disciplinarian first. Education is a distant second. Also DACA teachers might not be terrible because: 1. They can speak the language 2. They understand the ghetto culture 3. They will put up with the shit. In the end, our society must be fixed to unfuck our inner city schools. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:59:25 AM EDT
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The teacher "shortage" is actually a lack of teachers willing to take entry level jobs in shit districts. Post an opening for a grade school teacher in an affluent district and you suddenly have thousands of applications. Want quality teachers? Remove disruptive students from the classroom permanently. That's pretty well it. Teachers quit because of the discipline problems which lead to poor performance for all which mean poor evaluations for teachers. Half of all teachers who go into Title 1 schools quit by the end of year 5. Libs have destroyed public education by permitting problem students to disrupt classrooms. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 10:08:34 AM EDT
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My kid has been in private school since before 1st grade. She is now 7th grade, and she is now home-schooled. I work at home, so it fits nicely. I have a graduate degree, so I think I'm the most qualified one to assist her in learning from this point forward. Public schools are worthless.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 10:11:18 AM EDT
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I wouldn't work as a teacher in Dekalb county. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 10:20:38 AM EDT
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Buy equipment to send live 4K video over Ethernet, fire half the teachers and replace with poorly paid teachers aides.
Save money in the process. Not a robot, but close enough. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 10:25:57 AM EDT
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I wouldn't work as a teacher in Dekalb county. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 10:31:02 AM EDT
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How many of them have teaching positions because they speak Spanish? Seems to be a self-correcting problem to me. Get rid of the illegal immigrants and we won't need the illegal teachers to cater to them.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:01:18 AM EDT
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The irony in all of this is that the liberal MSM has been complaining for years that middle class wages have been stagnant for years. Now, there is a way to push up those wages, and they still complain.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:03:33 AM EDT
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Would you hire someone who's previous employment was "Collected welfare for 20 years"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kick out the illegals, then kick the worthless fucks off welfare..they will find a job and stop being a drain on society... |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:04:47 AM EDT
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How many of them have teaching positions because they speak Spanish? Seems to be a self-correcting problem to me. Get rid of the illegal immigrants and we won't need the illegal teachers to cater to them. Immigrant students add about one-third onto the per-student cost of any school system, so if the school system spend $10,000 per student, the cost of the immigrants student is $13,300. This is because they have both SOL needs and special ed needs. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:06:11 AM EDT
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The teacher "shortage" is actually a lack of teachers willing to take entry level jobs in shit districts. Post an opening for a grade school teacher in an affluent district and you suddenly have thousands of applications. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:08:36 AM EDT
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How many of them have teaching positions because they speak Spanish? Seems to be a self-correcting problem to me. Get rid of the illegal immigrants and we won't need the illegal teachers to cater to them.
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:11:29 AM EDT
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Story Here Apparently if we kick out the Dacas we will lose 20,000 teachers. Apparently there is NO FUCKING JOB that Americans will do anymore.... Non-felonious DACAs aren't leaving. If we are lucky the Republicans will use that as a bargaining chip to get something else. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:15:22 AM EDT
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Americans won't be doctors. Too good for that. Thank the Billy Kristols for informing us. http://www.unz.com/isteve/another-jobs-americans-just-wont-do-doctor/ |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:28:56 AM EDT
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Americans will do any job if firms pay the corresponding market price. If firms are unwilling to pay, they can hire politicians to import replacement labor and drive prices down. |
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Posted: 10/31/2017 11:42:47 AM EDT
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dont know how you are going to fix it though, I mean the only way to pay teachers more is toReduce the pay of school board members |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 12:37:30 AM EDT
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/garland/2017/10/23/former-garland-isd-hr-director-sentenced-visa-scam-officials-say-scandal-cost-district-32-million
Victor Leos, a former Garland ISD human resources director and a central figure in a scheme to abuse work visas to recruit hundreds of teachers, was sentenced to two years in federal prison and ordered to pay $317,482 in restitution Monday.
... Leos, 64, plead guilty to receiving kickbacks, travel and other benefits while using H-1B visas to attract bilingual teachers from Mexico, Central and South America and the Philippines. From about 2007 to 2012, he recruited and hired foreign teachers that Garland ISD did not necessarily need. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 12:39:40 AM EDT
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If you kick out the illegals we won’t need the 20,000 DACA teachers.
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Posted: 11/1/2017 12:54:00 AM EDT
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If you get rid of illegals we won't need the 20k extra teachers.
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Posted: 11/1/2017 1:03:02 AM EDT
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Story Here Apparently if we kick out the Dacas we will lose 20,000 teachers. Apparently there is NO FUCKING JOB that Americans will do anymore.... Its always some world ending event if we break up the stream of leftism, until it never happens, it ends and the world goes on a lot better. 20,000 new teachers back in their home nations, why does the USAtoday staff want 3rd world kids to be uneducated? |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 2:20:36 AM EDT
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Americans will do any job if firms pay the corresponding market price. If firms are unwilling to pay, they can hire politicians to import replacement labor and drive prices down. Politicians are whores. They get paid by lobbies & big business groups and will screw the average man at the drop of the hat |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 2:24:22 AM EDT
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Supply side economics. Flood the market with cheapo illegal or imported labor and destroy the wages of Americans... Politicians are whores. They get paid by lobbies & big business groups and will screw the average man at the drop of the hat Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Americans will do any job if firms pay the corresponding market price. If firms are unwilling to pay, they can hire politicians to import replacement labor and drive prices down. Politicians are whores. They get paid by lobbies & big business groups and will screw the average man at the drop of the hat |
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