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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:37:24 PM EDT
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So is the Clean Air Act and the ADA.
If you're not used to the feds shoving their fist up States asses, you have much living to do. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:37:54 PM EDT
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STFU
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:41:25 PM EDT
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How is this not an unfunded mandate? The IRS isn't going to put you in an IRS jail. They're going to put you in county until your trail. Guess who pays for the jail? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:41:29 PM EDT
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Unless somebody can tell me why I am wrong. I believe ICE detainers to be an unfunded mandates. "Hold this guy until we come get him, we won't promise you any compensation for doing so, or shield you from liability if it is ruled to be a wrongful imprisonment." How is this not an unfunded mandate? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:41:43 PM EDT
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So is the Clean Air Act and the ADA. If you're not used to the feds shoving their fist up States asses, you have much living to do. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:42:18 PM EDT
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some would rather see 40 dead, 250 missing 6000 homeless then one illegal alien deported Is an ICE detainer an unfunded mandate, or isn't it? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:45:24 PM EDT
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Unless somebody can tell me why I am wrong. I believe ICE detainers to be an unfunded mandates. "Hold this guy until we come get him, we won't promise you any compensation for doing so, or shield you from liability if it is ruled to be a wrongful imprisonment." How is this not an unfunded mandate? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:46:06 PM EDT
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It's in the locals' best interests to have illegals removed from their communities. ICE isn't charging them a thing. It's a free service.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:46:33 PM EDT
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That's not an argument. Is an ICE detainer an unfunded mandate, or isn't it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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some would rather see 40 dead, 250 missing 6000 homeless then one illegal alien deported Is an ICE detainer an unfunded mandate, or isn't it? The detainer is simply a place holder. Should the illegal alien be released on local/state charges that ICE be notified and they will pick them up into fed custody. They are, until that time, on the local/state dime, not on the fed roles. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:46:53 PM EDT
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ICE has 48 hours to pick up a detainee once they have cleared their local charges. Other agencies get 72 hours to get them. I'm not thinking 48 hours courtesy hold time is an onerous burden for a county.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:49:07 PM EDT
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I don't care if it is an unfunded mandate. It makes liberals cry, and it is something that
I will GLADLY pay taxes to support. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:00:28 PM EDT
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They are not mandates, so they can't be unfunded mandates.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:01:01 PM EDT
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ICE has 48 hours to pick up a detainee once they have cleared their local charges. Other agencies get 72 hours to get them. I'm not thinking 48 hours courtesy hold time is an onerous burden for a county. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:03:43 PM EDT
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Sounds like you live in a state with fucked up courts.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:03:54 PM EDT
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Wanna talk about an unfunded mandate ... California spent 1.87 Billion dollars jailing illegal aliens in 2015 which is about 50% of what it costs to run the state of Delaware for scale.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:06:16 PM EDT
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My town was sued, and lost, for $300K as the result of an ICE detainer.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ICE has 48 hours to pick up a detainee once they have cleared their local charges. Other agencies get 72 hours to get them. I'm not thinking 48 hours courtesy hold time is an onerous burden for a county. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:08:56 PM EDT
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My town was sued, and lost, for $300K as the result of an ICE detainer.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ICE has 48 hours to pick up a detainee once they have cleared their local charges. Other agencies get 72 hours to get them. I'm not thinking 48 hours courtesy hold time is an onerous burden for a county. Sued by who and for what ? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:10:36 PM EDT
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My town was sued, and lost, for $300K as the result of an ICE detainer.... |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:15:55 PM EDT
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Unless somebody can tell me why I am wrong. I believe ICE detainers to be an unfunded mandates. "Hold this guy until we come get him, we won't promise you any compensation for doing so, or shield you from liability if it is ruled to be a wrongful imprisonment." How is this not an unfunded mandate? Wait. I will post something using my endless wit and convert them all to my liberal cause. Not even a good effort. Criminals should be held in jail. Illegal aliens are criminals! It is that simple. Pedal your special brand of stupidity else where! |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:17:28 PM EDT
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Would you rather pay for an illegal aliens welfare or their ICE retainer? Either way you’re going to pay up, but at least one option is a positive step toward deportation.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:19:42 PM EDT
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What town? Farmington? “In Columbia County, there was an individual convicted of a crime who fell in their county jail,” he said. “The office received one of those ICE detainer requests, so they held the individual after their sentence was up, but ICE didn't come and get them. The individual sued the county for unlawfully detaining them for $300,000 and won.” "During the lawsuit, ICE refused to support the sheriff's department." “They discovered a detainer request is not an order, but just a request,” Zanni said. “The sheriff thought he had been on good ground.” http://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-county-state-of-oregon-make-sanctuary-status/article_89b296b1-5db0-557f-9a35-61aafc601671.html |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:22:01 PM EDT
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I know of at least two counties here in MI that are being sued over ICE detainers.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:22:32 PM EDT
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Edited ~ medicmandan
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:22:33 PM EDT
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Unless somebody can tell me why I am wrong. I believe ICE detainers to be an unfunded mandates. "Hold this guy until we come get him, we won't promise you any compensation for doing so, or shield you from liability if it is ruled to be a wrongful imprisonment." How is this not an unfunded mandate? Maybe you have it backwords? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:23:32 PM EDT
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Every time an illegal is detained, Soros gives a troll a keyboard
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:23:42 PM EDT
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Columbia County, Oregon. “In Columbia County, there was an individual convicted of a crime who fell in their county jail,” he said. “The office received one of those ICE detainer requests, so they held the individual after their sentence was up, but ICE didn't come and get them. The individual sued the county for unlawfully detaining them for $300,000 and won.” "During the lawsuit, ICE refused to support the sheriff's department." “They discovered a detainer request is not an order, but just a request,” Zanni said. “The sheriff thought he had been on good ground.” http://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-county-state-of-oregon-make-sanctuary-status/article_89b296b1-5db0-557f-9a35-61aafc601671.html So... that means its not a mandate then, is it? Which mean it can't be an unfunded mandate. Which means you answered your own question. Edited ~ medicmandan |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:24:40 PM EDT
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Join date. Topic. Troll detected. How much do they pay you to post? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:25:08 PM EDT
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I am not buying it. Sued by who and for what ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ICE has 48 hours to pick up a detainee once they have cleared their local charges. Other agencies get 72 hours to get them. I'm not thinking 48 hours courtesy hold time is an onerous burden for a county. Sued by who and for what ? I see why they got sued. Held them longer than allowed rather than the usual 48 hrs. No mandate, just an extended courtesy by San Juan County. In those cases each defendent got $2,000, and they still got deported. Big deal. Now thay must have a fed warrant along with the detainer. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:26:29 PM EDT
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Maybe you have it backwords? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:26:33 PM EDT
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Columbia County, Oregon. “In Columbia County, there was an individual convicted of a crime who fell in their county jail,” he said. “The office received one of those ICE detainer requests, so they held the individual after their sentence was up, but ICE didn't come and get them. The individual sued the county for unlawfully detaining them for $300,000 and won.” "During the lawsuit, ICE refused to support the sheriff's department." “They discovered a detainer request is not an order, but just a request,” Zanni said. “The sheriff thought he had been on good ground.” http://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-county-state-of-oregon-make-sanctuary-status/article_89b296b1-5db0-557f-9a35-61aafc601671.html |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:28:00 PM EDT
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Sorry your bitch lost. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:30:38 PM EDT
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Hey OP go be liberal at calguns.
You’ll be protected there. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:31:35 PM EDT
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Columbia County, Oregon. “In Columbia County, there was an individual convicted of a crime who fell in their county jail,” he said. “The office received one of those ICE detainer requests, so they held the individual after their sentence was up, but ICE didn't come and get them. The individual sued the county for unlawfully detaining them for $300,000 and won.” "During the lawsuit, ICE refused to support the sheriff's department." “They discovered a detainer request is not an order, but just a request,” Zanni said. “The sheriff thought he had been on good ground.” http://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-county-state-of-oregon-make-sanctuary-status/article_89b296b1-5db0-557f-9a35-61aafc601671.html |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:32:24 PM EDT
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ICE detainers are a mandate. There is no funded = unfunded mandate. So does that make it an unfunded request? Lol. Real question, why does it matter if its an unfunded mandate or not? We're deporting people who are existing in the US illegally. Thats a lot better than a) letting them go, or b) jailing them on the tax payer dollar and then letting them go. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:32:49 PM EDT
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And you think that argument is a winner?
How about give us back all that DOD shit on loan if you don't do what we want. There is your funding. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:35:24 PM EDT
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Of course, getting felons deported will only make a city more crime-ridden. More felons, less crime.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:36:38 PM EDT
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Join date. Topic. Troll detected. How much do they pay you to post? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless somebody can tell me why I am wrong. I believe ICE detainers to be an unfunded mandates. "Hold this guy until we come get him, we won't promise you any compensation for doing so, or shield you from liability if it is ruled to be a wrongful imprisonment." How is this not an unfunded mandate? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:38:32 PM EDT
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I love Immigration Detainers, the only thing I love more are Federal Warrants for Removal.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:41:14 PM EDT
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I feel like a noob, I've never heard of an unfunded mandate.
Someone care to explain the debate behind it? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:41:51 PM EDT
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How dare you spend money to hold and deport illegals when they can just stay and be a $100 billion or more a year burden on the country instead. Liberal logic at its finest.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:43:45 PM EDT
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I feel like a noob, I've never heard of an unfunded mandate. Someone care to explain the debate behind it? They're not unconstitutional. Shit happens. The feds give the states tons of money anyway. They're attacked by people with an underlying agenda. TLDR: Boo hoo. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:44:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:46:17 PM EDT
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Unless somebody can tell me why I am wrong. I believe ICE detainers to be an unfunded mandates. "Hold this guy until we come get him, we won't promise you any compensation for doing so, or shield you from liability if it is ruled to be a wrongful imprisonment." How is this not an unfunded mandate? 1. Yes, the county jail can hold a guy until they come get him. If he's being arrested and jailed, there's another crime such that illegally being there is not on his or her's arrest warrant. 2. Nope, no compensation. A county or city jail can hold a subject until the feds pick him up. Or even for extradition to another state. Boo ya. 3. No liability on a wrongful imprisonment. See 1 above. Did you get your law degree from Costco or University of Phoenix? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:48:16 PM EDT
[#44]
 Demi Lovato - Sorry Not Sorry (Official Video) |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:50:50 PM EDT
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If a dude gets arrested in Florida on a Georgia warrant, Georgia doesn't pay Florida to hold him until they pick him up. But if he's sitting in a Florida jail unable to make bond for 30 days while Georgia is sitting on its hands, he gets released.
There are detainers for a multitude of reasons from a multitude of jurisdictions. OP is only worried about the one he's paid to worry about. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:51:07 PM EDT
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Columbia County, Oregon. “In Columbia County, there was an individual convicted of a crime who fell in their county jail,” he said. “The office received one of those ICE detainer requests, so they held the individual after their sentence was up, but ICE didn't come and get them. The individual sued the county for unlawfully detaining them for $300,000 and won.” "During the lawsuit, ICE refused to support the sheriff's department." “They discovered a detainer request is not an order, but just a request,” Zanni said. “The sheriff thought he had been on good ground.” http://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-county-state-of-oregon-make-sanctuary-status/article_89b296b1-5db0-557f-9a35-61aafc601671.html What they should have done was arraign him, set a trial date for his case and keep him in jail, no bond because of the detainer. Then, if he goes to trial and gets convicted and sentenced, then he would remain in jail as part of his sentence. This way, ICE can pick up him after his sentence is complete. I am thinking someone at the sheriff's department or district attorney didn't work this one out right. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:51:19 PM EDT
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Columbia County, Oregon. “In Columbia County, there was an individual convicted of a crime who fell in their county jail,” he said. “The office received one of those ICE detainer requests, so they held the individual after their sentence was up, but ICE didn't come and get them. The individual sued the county for unlawfully detaining them for $300,000 and won.” "During the lawsuit, ICE refused to support the sheriff's department." “They discovered a detainer request is not an order, but just a request,” Zanni said. “The sheriff thought he had been on good ground.” http://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-county-state-of-oregon-make-sanctuary-status/article_89b296b1-5db0-557f-9a35-61aafc601671.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What town? Farmington? “In Columbia County, there was an individual convicted of a crime who fell in their county jail,” he said. “The office received one of those ICE detainer requests, so they held the individual after their sentence was up, but ICE didn't come and get them. The individual sued the county for unlawfully detaining them for $300,000 and won.” "During the lawsuit, ICE refused to support the sheriff's department." “They discovered a detainer request is not an order, but just a request,” Zanni said. “The sheriff thought he had been on good ground.” http://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-county-state-of-oregon-make-sanctuary-status/article_89b296b1-5db0-557f-9a35-61aafc601671.html |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:47:38 AM EDT
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Not even a clever one either... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless somebody can tell me why I am wrong. I believe ICE detainers to be an unfunded mandates. "Hold this guy until we come get him, we won't promise you any compensation for doing so, or shield you from liability if it is ruled to be a wrongful imprisonment." How is this not an unfunded mandate? |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:55:47 AM EDT
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Columbia County, Oregon. “In Columbia County, there was an individual convicted of a crime who fell in their county jail,” he said. “The office received one of those ICE detainer requests, so they held the individual after their sentence was up, but ICE didn't come and get them. The individual sued the county for unlawfully detaining them for $300,000 and won.” "During the lawsuit, ICE refused to support the sheriff's department." “They discovered a detainer request is not an order, but just a request,” Zanni said. “The sheriff thought he had been on good ground.” http://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-county-state-of-oregon-make-sanctuary-status/article_89b296b1-5db0-557f-9a35-61aafc601671.html MANDATE REQUEST There really should be an IQ minimum to post on here. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:59:10 AM EDT
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