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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:40:32 AM EDT
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Awesome post, OP.
Thanks for the photos of those beauties. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:41:09 AM EDT
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People grouching about "Canned hunts" make me laugh. If you're hunting with anything other than your bare hands, naked, you're not doing it "the natural way". It's only a matter of degree. Next thing, people will be complaining that McDonald's doesn't use free-range beef or something. I'll say it again. I have no problem with people paying top dollar to shoot livestock. There is nothing wrong with it. Just don't pretend it's he same as real hunting. More power to you OP. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:57:13 AM EDT
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I'm in Idaho.
I'll probably never shoot one. But, I respect what you do. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:58:18 AM EDT
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Awesome deer.
I hunt in Northern Michigan, and for years we only ever saw small bucks. The past 5 years or so our county has been part of an antler point restriction and they have been getting better and better. I shot this one last year. Scores probably half or less than what you are getting but, maybe in another 5-6 years. I have some on camera that are probably close to 140 and they make me giddy as is. This scored unofficially 117 3/8 using the tape they sell to get an easy rough estimate.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:00:39 AM EDT
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Awesome deer. I hunt in Northern Michigan, and for years we only ever saw small bucks. The past 5 years or so our county has been part of an antler point restriction and they have been getting better and better. I shot this one last year. Scores probably half or less than what you are getting but, maybe in another 5-6 years. I have some on camera that are probably close to 140 and they make me giddy as is. This scored unofficially 117 3/8 using the tape they sell to get an easy rough estimate. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/278107/20170814_171648-1494x2656-311282.JPG 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:03:52 AM EDT
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WTF? Not only do you Texans bait deer with corn now you raise them in a pen until they're big enough to shoot? And people pay those ridiculous prices? hunting big game in the east is done, it's a joke now, i get a kick out of watching the local fudds get frustrated because there's nothing to kill canned hunts are the future, there's profit to be made evident by this thread this bears repeating the 2nd has nothing to do with hunting |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:05:35 AM EDT
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Already covered. Yes. Strict guidelines by the state, and even stricter by good ranches. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:06:15 AM EDT
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Respectfully...that's bullshit. You are pen raising deer, feeding them, and releasing them to hunters who kill pen raised deer for money. That's not hunting...it's buying deer and the price sheet is above. When you can select the deer you want to shoot from a catalog of photos...it's not huntiing. This brings shame on legitimate sport hunting. Plus...it directly spreads disease into wild populations. It should be illegal. 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:08:21 AM EDT
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WTF? Not only do you Texans bait deer with corn now you raise them in a pen until they're big enough to shoot? And people pay those ridiculous prices? As for me, I'm like the other hunters, buck, doe, it eats all the same to me. Frankly I'd rather take a doe. I don't hunt for trophies, I hunt for groceries. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:16:23 AM EDT
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Hunt. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/340403/IMG_1990-311058.JPG |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:32:14 AM EDT
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I've hunted pigs for the last 2 years on a 800 acre low fence ranch in Texas. The place is a couple hours south west of Dallas.
The ranch has a managed deer herd on it. For all you "shooting fish in a barrel" whiners. Respectfully you have no clue what the hell your talking about. As part of our package, we can take a cull buck if the chance presents itself. We do however have to pay for the pleasure of doing the culling work. Game camera photos of the cull bucks are handed out with specific identifying features. Those "managed" deer are just as wild and cagey as their western mule deer cousins that live in the wild. I have yet had one run up and say shoot me. Just my 2 cents |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:36:42 AM EDT
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$3,000-$10,000 for a damn farm deer in a high fence shoot LOL a fool and their money. It's not something that appeals to most hunters, but if harvesting a massive farm deer is one's goal, the price sounds like a bargain. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:38:48 AM EDT
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Sorry, must have skimmed right over it. That is the only problem I have with this type of operation. The ability these farms have of producing amazing antlers is unbelievable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:41:57 AM EDT
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I've hunted pigs for the last 2 years on a 800 acre low fence ranch in Texas. The place is a couple hours south west of Dallas. The ranch has a managed deer herd on it. For all you "shooting fish in a barrel" whiners. Respectfully you have no clue what the hell your talking about. As part of our package, we can take a cull buck if the chance presents itself. We do however have to pay for the pleasure of doing the culling work. Game camera photos of the cull bucks are handed out with specific identifying features. Those "managed" deer are just as wild and cagey as their western mule deer cousins that live in the wild. I have yet had one run up and say shoot me. Just my 2 cents I am AGAINST unfair hunting too. But I also know the difference and so do the real record keeping associations. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:47:45 AM EDT
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I can only imagine how shitty it would be to "hunt" one of those  That said the manner of person that would avail themselves of that kind of "hunt" is not someone I would care to associate myself with.....Same with those that perpetuate the practice. I figure it's only a matter of time before breeders unleash some disease into the natural whitetail population.....And they won't bat a eye. 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:49:31 AM EDT
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I don't have a problem with it.
I am here in southern Illinois where there aren't any wild pheasants or quail. If I want my dogs to get some exposure to birds, then I have to buy pen raised birds. Now...as to the why the quail populations have dropped off so much... that could be another thread in itself. 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:50:36 AM EDT
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WTF? Not only do you Texans bait deer with corn now you raise them in a pen until they're big enough to shoot? And people pay those ridiculous prices? Go away PETA. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:55:52 AM EDT
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Here's hoping you don't spread CWD.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:56:10 AM EDT
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I don't have a problem with it. I am here in southern Illinois where there aren't any wild pheasants or quail. If I want my dogs to get some exposure to birds, then I have to buy pen raised birds. Now...as to the why the quail populations have dropped off so much... that could be another thread in itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN0qpz81XVc |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:59:43 AM EDT
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How big does a fenced area have to be not be a canned hunt for you naysayers?
Is stocking a pond with bass canned fishing? Bunch of slack jawed faggots up in here. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:59:43 AM EDT
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Yeah, the whole thing strikes me as unnatural and the killing of one of those "things" is certainly nothing to brag on. That said the manner of person that would avail themselves of that kind of "hunt" is not someone I would care to associate myself with.....Same with those that perpetuate the practice. I figure it's only a matter of time before breeders unleash some disease into the natural whitetail population.....And they won't bat a eye. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can only imagine how shitty it would be to "hunt" one of those That said the manner of person that would avail themselves of that kind of "hunt" is not someone I would care to associate myself with.....Same with those that perpetuate the practice. I figure it's only a matter of time before breeders unleash some disease into the natural whitetail population.....And they won't bat a eye. But, the thread was not intended for this argument in the first place. But, arf gd... Lol! |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:02:05 AM EDT
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It wasn't. Sad. But it doesn't reflect "the norm". The super rich, who aren't true sportsmen, fuel that. Then, there are arguments about every damn thing. Bait deer with corn? Most bucks know better. You hunt free range deer? Do you hunt over harvested fields? Water sources? Mast, meaning heavy acorn crops, etc? Too many arguments. Is camo clothing "fair"? |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:06:02 AM EDT
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Do you get to dart them, or just herd them into other pens?
Got pulled off a job by my old boss years ago and he had me go to his property where there were dozens to maybe low hundreds of deer of that size. Gave me a tranq gun and an atv and we drove around shooting the ones he pointed out. Then drove them to the trailer for harvesting their essential fluids. Most fun I've had at work, and he paid me double for the day. Those pens were high fence and shrouded so you couldn't see what was in them. Said he didn't want drunken poachers shooting any through the fence. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:07:53 AM EDT
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Awesome deer. I hunt in Northern Michigan, and for years we only ever saw small bucks. The past 5 years or so our county has been part of an antler point restriction and they have been getting better and better. I shot this one last year. Scores probably half or less than what you are getting but, maybe in another 5-6 years. I have some on camera that are probably close to 140 and they make me giddy as is. This scored unofficially 117 3/8 using the tape they sell to get an easy rough estimate. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/278107/20170814_171648-1494x2656-311282.JPG It's not like you put on a pair of shorts and fight the thing to the death, bare handed, in a cage match. 
They're nuisance animals. Good riddance to them when you shoot one, and I don't care how it''s done. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:10:25 AM EDT
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What do you do with the antlers you cut off?
I'm looking for some to use to make knife handles, and possibly pistol grips from. Just as a hobby / something I want to try |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:13:50 AM EDT
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Bucks only produce semen when in hard antlers. Don't they lose about 15% of bone mass during antler growth? 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:14:01 AM EDT
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Those are some insane prices. http://outdoor8.wixsite.com/new-hunting-page/trophy-elk |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:18:19 AM EDT
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Good points. That is why the forum exists. Until the name calling dumbasses fuck it up. But, the thread was not intended for this argument in the first place. But, arf gd... Lol! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can only imagine how shitty it would be to "hunt" one of those That said the manner of person that would avail themselves of that kind of "hunt" is not someone I would care to associate myself with.....Same with those that perpetuate the practice. I figure it's only a matter of time before breeders unleash some disease into the natural whitetail population.....And they won't bat a eye. But, the thread was not intended for this argument in the first place. But, arf gd... Lol!
Managing a natural resource is one thing, perpetuating the breeding of "things" to hunt is something else. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:25:06 AM EDT
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IIRC, a typical deer's range is about a square mile, or 640 acres, so it would seem that much over that under "high fence" would be virtually indistinguishable from so called "open range".
The purpose of the fence is as much to keep out unwanted genetics and species as to keep "exotics" from entering the external ecosystems. Mule Deer and Whitetail crosses are pretty much a disaster for the offspring and other crosses could produce similar unwanted results. When fleeing danger the Muley/Whitetail cross doesn't know whether to run or stott (look it up) and winds up being some coyote/couger/wolf's lunch. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:29:13 AM EDT
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This man gets it. I admit there are shady canned places, but OP's operation is not one of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How big of a ranch is the place you work? I help out year around on a ~9000 acre cattle ranch, in east Texas, with game management. No hunting or pen raising/breeding/selling, the owner just likes to see monster bucks when he visits. (Largest to come off the place was 256") I am loling at people bitching about picking a deer to shoot. We might see a particular buck and not see it in person or on camera again for 2-3 years I admit there are shady canned places, but OP's operation is not one of them. Took those buck hunters something like 5 days to even see a deer. Older bucks aren't dumb. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:31:14 AM EDT
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Respectfully...that's bullshit. You are pen raising deer, feeding them, and releasing them to hunters who kill pen raised deer for money. That's not hunting...it's buying deer and the price sheet is above. When you can select the deer you want to shoot from a catalog of photos...it's not huntiing. This brings shame on legitimate sport hunting. Plus...it directly spreads disease into wild populations. It should be illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate to tell you guys calling them canned hunts, they are not. We have deer that have been loose for 4 years or more still running around. They are not seen unless on game cameras or a brief moment. Canned hunts are a northern "preserve" thing Texas has acreage not 150 acres that is called a "game preserve". You are pen raising deer, feeding them, and releasing them to hunters who kill pen raised deer for money. That's not hunting...it's buying deer and the price sheet is above. When you can select the deer you want to shoot from a catalog of photos...it's not huntiing. This brings shame on legitimate sport hunting. Plus...it directly spreads disease into wild populations. It should be illegal. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:32:35 AM EDT
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Well when someone starts a thread about something unnatural what do you expect?
Managing a natural resource is one thing, perpetuating the breeding of "things" to hunt is something else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can only imagine how shitty it would be to "hunt" one of those That said the manner of person that would avail themselves of that kind of "hunt" is not someone I would care to associate myself with.....Same with those that perpetuate the practice. I figure it's only a matter of time before breeders unleash some disease into the natural whitetail population.....And they won't bat a eye. But, the thread was not intended for this argument in the first place. But, arf gd... Lol!
Managing a natural resource is one thing, perpetuating the breeding of "things" to hunt is something else. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:36:04 AM EDT
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There was a research project done by the Michigan DNR in the 60's I think it was. Basically they penned off a square mile of land and put I think it was 5 bucks in. They let them learn the land then put in some seasoned buck hunters. Took those buck hunters something like 5 days to even see a deer. Older bucks aren't dumb. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How big of a ranch is the place you work? I help out year around on a ~9000 acre cattle ranch, in east Texas, with game management. No hunting or pen raising/breeding/selling, the owner just likes to see monster bucks when he visits. (Largest to come off the place was 256") I am loling at people bitching about picking a deer to shoot. We might see a particular buck and not see it in person or on camera again for 2-3 years I admit there are shady canned places, but OP's operation is not one of them. Took those buck hunters something like 5 days to even see a deer. Older bucks aren't dumb. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:37:38 AM EDT
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Who can sell me a trophy tuna I can release in my swimming pool to fish for? I will proudly display it in my wall to illustrate to everyone how I'm a badass angler. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Respectfully...that's bullshit. You are pen raising deer, feeding them, and releasing them to hunters who kill pen raised deer for money. That's not hunting...it's buying deer and the price sheet is above. When you can select the deer you want to shoot from a catalog of photos...it's not huntiing. This brings shame on legitimate sport hunting. Plus...it directly spreads disease into wild populations. It should be illegal. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:38:01 AM EDT
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How big does a fenced area have to be not be a canned hunt for you naysayers? Is stocking a pond with bass canned fishing? Bunch of slack jawed faggots up in here. i'll repeat, 2nd has nothing to do with hunting cracks me up the first thing a fudd does is question your manhood because you don't fudd 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:38:15 AM EDT
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Ignore the haters OP I love seeing your posts and thanks for sharing. One thing though, if you get anywhere near the San Saba/Brady area delivering them don't stop for gas or food. You'd walk out and find one missing and it'll be on my place. :)
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:39:45 AM EDT
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WTF? Not only do you Texans bait deer with corn now you raise them in a pen until they're big enough to shoot? And people pay those ridiculous prices? |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:41:58 AM EDT
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Lol this. The word "hunting" means something very different in Texas. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:44:10 AM EDT
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Glad to see everyone in TX isnt retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Respectfully...that's bullshit. You are pen raising deer, feeding them, and releasing them to hunters who kill pen raised deer for money. That's not hunting...it's buying deer and the price sheet is above. When you can select the deer you want to shoot from a catalog of photos...it's not huntiing. This brings shame on legitimate sport hunting. Plus...it directly spreads disease into wild populations. It should be illegal. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:46:44 AM EDT
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I find it interesting that those who a bitching about this method of hunting, choose to not state their location.
I would be interested to hear from some of these folks where they are from and what their life experiences are related to the outdoors. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:46:50 AM EDT
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Glad to see everyone in TX isnt retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Respectfully...that's bullshit. You are pen raising deer, feeding them, and releasing them to hunters who kill pen raised deer for money. That's not hunting...it's buying deer and the price sheet is above. When you can select the deer you want to shoot from a catalog of photos...it's not huntiing. This brings shame on legitimate sport hunting. Plus...it directly spreads disease into wild populations. It should be illegal. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:48:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIn all seriousness...
it gets a little tin foil hat-y, but it has been rumored that the state DNR's purposely brought in coyote to control the deer populations. The DNR didn't realize that coyotes were such an opportunist and would rather pick off quail which roost on the ground. Well...that's one theory anyway. Then there are the turkey.... of course, big farmers buying out smaller farms didn't help either...and pulling up the fences and farming from one ditch to the next ditch took away a lot of their cover. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:48:31 AM EDT
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Texas did fine until "assholes" invaded. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:51:23 AM EDT
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Any Northern genetics in those guys? Impressive animals..
I have done a great deal of EHD WND Blue tongue work. Hopefully, it isn't much of an issue in your area. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:56:55 AM EDT
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Ok. It is a BILLION dollar industry in Texas. Go be whatever somewhere else, I don't remember what the word is after, Go Be, but whatever. We are severely regulated by TPWD. We have taken measures to prevent CWD in our herd since 2008 and have not brought in outside animals since 2010 for fear of CWD. The deer we let loose are two and three year old and get acclimated to the ranch before they are shot. We also have an 8' fence surrounding the ranch with another 3' burried. I killed over 500 hogs off this place and we have zero hogs now. As for your claims of it not being a hunt, spend the time and money with me and I can get you a quality deer, maybe not the one you saw in a game camera photo but one similar. That is what happens on a propperly managed ranch. Don't get your panties in a wad because you only see four pointers on public lands in Kentucky. Some of us in the west don't realize how blessed we are to have the public lands that Texas doesn't. I'll take my chances in the forests or BLM land. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:01:02 AM EDT
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The very definition of a canned hunt. Some of us in the west don't realize how blessed we are to have the public lands that Texas doesn't. I'll take my chances in the forests or BLM land. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok. It is a BILLION dollar industry in Texas. Go be whatever somewhere else, I don't remember what the word is after, Go Be, but whatever. We are severely regulated by TPWD. We have taken measures to prevent CWD in our herd since 2008 and have not brought in outside animals since 2010 for fear of CWD. The deer we let loose are two and three year old and get acclimated to the ranch before they are shot. We also have an 8' fence surrounding the ranch with another 3' burried. I killed over 500 hogs off this place and we have zero hogs now. As for your claims of it not being a hunt, spend the time and money with me and I can get you a quality deer, maybe not the one you saw in a game camera photo but one similar. That is what happens on a propperly managed ranch. Don't get your panties in a wad because you only see four pointers on public lands in Kentucky. Some of us in the west don't realize how blessed we are to have the public lands that Texas doesn't. I'll take my chances in the forests or BLM land. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:02:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:07:32 AM EDT
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For an extra fee can you have the deer brought to you, then pay someone else to shoot it for you?
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:08:12 AM EDT
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Breeder bucks are the ruination of deer hunting as we know it.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 10:15:29 AM EDT
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Well I enjoyed the pics and info anyway. I wonder if there are doe hunts? I've never gotten a big buck, they don't really get very big here. Got big pigs though.
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