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Posted: 9/18/2017 5:13:06 PM EDT

Which Jeep is best Jeep; most capable, reliable off and on road? Why?

*ETA: for the purposes of this thread, if the top doesn't come off and the windshield fold down its not considered a Jeep.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:17:38 PM EDT

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Fake Jeep.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:17:59 PM EDT

[#2]

......JK

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:18:17 PM EDT

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Posted: 9/18/2017 5:20:37 PM EDT

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TJ....because coil springs, 4.0L engine, can still find good examples not completely ate up with rust, Tons of aftermarket support.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:27:29 PM EDT

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TJ....because coil springs, 4.0L engine, can still find good examples not completely ate up with rust, Tons of aftermarket support.

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I'd agree, I think while all of the past few Jeeps have been incredibly solid, the TJ/LJ was the pinnacle of offroadability without becoming too soft. The JK, while still an awesome rig has started the descent down the opposite side of the hill. If I left my top off on the TJ in a rainstorm I'd be like eh, I'm just gonna have a wet ass on the ride home. In a JK, I'd probably start worrying about electrical gremlins.

Love my CJ, but they're well known for their problems. YJs have square headlights and thus are wrong.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:30:41 PM EDT

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LJ Rubicon

Coil springs, 4.0, longer wheelbase, Dana 44 axles, 4:1 transfer case, etc.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:31:36 PM EDT

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1978 CJ-7, because that is what I have. Voted CJ-8 tho

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:34:23 PM EDT

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No Jeep

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:36:00 PM EDT

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My TJ was a POS. No mechanical problems, just small, too much cheap plastic. Rough ride, etc. The new JKs are so much better they are not even in the same category. CJs are cool, but basically antiques at this point. And leaf springs. No experience with the others.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:38:35 PM EDT

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Y no CJ-6.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:42:20 PM EDT

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meh, not enough out there in the wild and not enough slots in the poll. Kinda oddball Jeep anyway.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:42:40 PM EDT

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Off the floor probably the JK.

The TJ is stupid simple and affordable to turn into a solid rig though, probably my favorite one.

The CJ and YJ were tough little bastards, but the leaf spring suspensions rattled the kidneys right out of your back.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:43:42 PM EDT

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My TJ was a POS. No mechanical problems, just small, too much cheap plastic. Rough ride, etc. The new JKs are so much better they are not even in the same category. CJs are cool, but basically antiques at this point. And leaf springs. No experience with the others.

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Something about all the computer controlled stuff in the JKs make me distrust them.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:44:12 PM EDT

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My TJ was a POS. No mechanical problems, just small, too much cheap plastic. Rough ride, etc. The new JKs are so much better they are not even in the same category. CJs are cool, but basically antiques at this point. And leaf springs. No experience with the others.

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The TJ rides like a Caddy compared to the ones that came before it. I loved my YJ, but it didn't hold a candle to the TJ's my friends had from both a modding and rid comfort standpoint. I do like the slanted roll bar look better though.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:45:48 PM EDT

[#15]

Built Jeep is best Jeep.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:45:50 PM EDT

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Winner!

I bought one of the first ones off the boat in 2006!. It's been awesome.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:46:28 PM EDT

[#17]

Poll fail, the correct answer is:

XJ

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:46:42 PM EDT

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How come there is no option for the XJ with a 4.0?

You get the coils in the front, the leafs in the back, longer wheel base, and more room to store shit. They were pretty cool rigs too.

It's too bad cash for clunkers murdered so many of them.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:48:55 PM EDT

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JK, zero question. Nothing comes close without serious modding

Second is the LJ, followed by TJ, followed by the old Cherokee.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:49:16 PM EDT

[#20]

JK, seriously

You people are smoking dope.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:52:03 PM EDT

[#21]

Anything that didn't come with flat fenders ain't a real jeep

(JK with my limited experience with it so far, ac and faster than 40mph is nice

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Posted: 9/18/2017 5:53:45 PM EDT

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notajeep

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:54:12 PM EDT

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JKUR.
Poll sucks.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:58:08 PM EDT

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Falls under JK. Two more doors and an offroad package do not a poll slot make.

Posted: 9/18/2017 5:59:21 PM EDT

[#25]

My M151 set up as a Gun Jeep for the Scout Platoon I was in.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:02:43 PM EDT

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Take one of every rig listed new off the floor and put them head to head on an offroad course, I would be the JK wins most of it.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:04:11 PM EDT

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Posted: 9/18/2017 6:04:19 PM EDT

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JKUR.
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Most of the offroad trails up here are cut through the woods and the JKUs all spend a light of time with the reverse lights on. I get it, but at least up here, the extra doors are a serious compromise.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:06:15 PM EDT

[#29]

FJ40

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:06:40 PM EDT

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Most of the offroad trails up here are cut through the woods and the JKUs all spend a light of time with the reverse lights on. I get it, but at least up here, the extra doors are a serious compromise.

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JKUR.
Poll sucks.

Most of the offroad trails up here are cut through the woods and the JKUs all spend a light of time with the reverse lights on. I get it, but at least up here, the extra doors are a serious compromise.

Go out west though and the longer wheel base is handy as hell for getting up and over stuff.

That said, I managed to cram my YJ down a hiking trail through a big stand of pines one time, I kept fitting, so I just kept going.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:07:51 PM EDT

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None of the abovr.. Jeep Comanche MJ!!!

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:09:41 PM EDT

[#32]

No M715? Fake poll.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:10:09 PM EDT

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JK, seriously

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The JK is easily the most capable Jeep to ever come off the line. I'm guessing you're a "muh leaf springs!" kinda guy though.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:11:00 PM EDT

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JK, seriously

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The only thing the older models do better is being slightly narrower. The TJ is no less computerized

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:11:05 PM EDT

[#35]

All those choices are for high school and sorority girls

in before the triggering.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:14:52 PM EDT

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Most of the offroad trails up here are cut through the woods and the JKUs all spend a light of time with the reverse lights on. I get it, but at least up here, the extra doors are a serious compromise.

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There are trade offs for sure. Most will never push their Jeeps to the point where they would see them. If you have a family or cargo the unlimited is pretty damn appealing. And when it comes to hill climbing the longer wheelbase has its advantages.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:17:36 PM EDT

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The JK is easily the most capable Jeep to ever come off the line. I'm guessing you're a "muh leaf springs!" kinda guy though.

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I'm a leaf springs sort of guy.

Easily as capable, or more, than the most expensive long arm custom systems. Especially if you have skills to fabricate vs. you paid someone to bolt/fab. a long arm system (and all that goes along with it). Toyota, Jeep, etc.

You know what I mean, if you know what I mean.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:17:53 PM EDT

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The thing that killed Jeeps for me is the availability of awesome UTV's now.

They weren't really a thing when we used to mess with Jeeps.

If I wanted a super capable rig now I would just get a RZR ready to rock off the showroom floor and run it. For the same money you can build a pretty good Jeep, but it's a lot of time and effort, and it still won't be as good on the trail as a UTV now.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:18:54 PM EDT

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JK, seriously

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Which of those listed have you owned and taken off road?

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:19:09 PM EDT

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I'm a leaf springs sort of guy. Easily as capable, or more, than the most expensive long arm custom systems. Especially if you have skills to fabricate vs. I paid someone to bolt a long arm system (and all that goes along with it). Toyota, Jeep, etc. You know what I mean, if you know what I mean.

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The JK is easily the most capable Jeep to ever come off the line. I'm guessing you're a "muh leaf springs!" kinda guy though.

I'm a leaf springs sort of guy. Easily as capable, or more, than the most expensive long arm custom systems. Especially if you have skills to fabricate vs. I paid someone to bolt a long arm system (and all that goes along with it). Toyota, Jeep, etc. You know what I mean, if you know what I mean.

Really hard to coax the same range of motion out of leaf springs though. They are nice because you can slide down shit with them if you need too, but I like coils.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:20:33 PM EDT

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FJZ-80

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:21:36 PM EDT

[#42]

1945 Willys.......

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:22:20 PM EDT

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I have a CJ7, but I voted JK. However, the 2018+ JL will be King Jeep, especially with the diesel option.

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Posted: 9/18/2017 6:22:56 PM EDT

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Um...prolly the one the frame hasn't rusted out on yet.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:23:36 PM EDT

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I have a CJ7, but I voted JK. However, the 2018+ JL will be King Jeep, especially with the diesel option. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/324728/jeep-310812.JPG

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I'll believe it when I see it.

They have been teasing a diesel option for 20 years and have yet to release anything more than prototypes.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:28:02 PM EDT

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I'm a leaf springs sort of guy.

Easily as capable, or more, than the most expensive long arm custom systems. Especially if you have skills to fabricate vs. you paid someone to bolt/fab. a long arm system (and all that goes along with it). Toyota, Jeep, etc.

You know what I mean, if you know what I mean.

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That's why I said "to ever come off the line." As in factory built Jeeps. If you want to talk fabrication then we can just one up each other until one of us starts bending tube for a custom crawler. How many of those do you see being built with leaf springs today? None...cause everybody sees the benefits of coils except for the old fart purists which will mostly be gone from the trails within the next decade.

Posted: 9/18/2017 6:28:10 PM EDT

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Really hard to coax the same range of motion out of leaf springs though. They are nice because you can slide down shit with them if you need too, but I like coils.

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I get you. This can be like an oil thread!

But I can mess with a TON of cheap junk yard leaf packs and move my perches accordingly. For example, the cheap 1/2 ton Chevy mod to the rear and moving your stock rears up front on Toyota pickups. And incredibly tough and almost, almost, bullet proof.

1st video that came up and he has no lockers and no trans doubler. Not that impressive, really. More tinkering and he's got a nice machine for pennies on the dollar compared to linked rigs.

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Posted: 9/18/2017 6:30:27 PM EDT

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That's why I said "to ever come off the line." As in factory built Jeeps. If you want to talk fabrication then we can just one up each other until one of us starts bending tube for a custom crawler. How many of those do you see being built with leaf springs today? None...cause everybody sees the benefits of coils except for the old fart purists which will mostly be gone from the trails within the next decade.

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Fair enough. I shall bow out. Still M715 though... pffft.

A little slice of an old video I have of the complete military testing video for the M715. NO jeep will match it off the line.

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Posted: 9/18/2017 6:32:51 PM EDT

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The only thing the older models do better is being slightly narrower. The TJ is no less computerized

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I disagree. My TJ did not have computer controlled stability control, traction control, transmission, lights, etc etc. It had standard EFI controller and ABS thats about it.