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Posted: 9/17/2017 9:44:44 AM EDT
[#1]
I would change it after an hour. Most of the trash in there will be in the pan by then. Maybe put a neodium magnet on the drain plug before you run it and drop the oil when it's still hot.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 10:12:38 AM EDT
[#2]
On the 2000 watt models can you add an extra tank for extended runs as you can with the Honda?
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Posted: 9/17/2017 10:19:17 AM EDT
[#3]
If you have missed the Predator deal, this appears to be the exact same item, for $475 and they are in stock.
WEN 56200i |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 10:33:41 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax:
Just ran it 8 hours straight. CHANGE THE OIL AFTER 8 HOURS!!! There is a lot of trash that came out. I may change after another 8 hours of runtime, just to be safe. I used full synthetic that I had laying around. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170916_203343-309325.JPG It was beautiful, clear, golden going in. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170916_202555-309327.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170916_202537-309328.JPG Run it 8 hrs and then change the oil? |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 10:56:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: phatmax]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Avidrook:
Is that the recommended break in procedure? Run it 8 hrs and then change the oil?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 11:06:02 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax:
It is confusing in the manual. But...this is under the break-in section. ETA: This makes it seem they want you to run it 25 hours on the first oil... Not a good idea. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170917_105409-309624.JPG I bought a HF compressor and break in required running for a period of time (I don't remember how long) with the tank drain open. Thanks again |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 11:06:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Is this supposed to be better built than a comparable Generac?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 11:09:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax:
I went to Spartanburg to get the last 3500 within at least 100 miles, but likely all of SC. Got it home...and it had been dropped. Bent frame and popped cover. Took it back to the Greenville HF and got my money back and got the 2000, which was their second to last one. 399 Thanks, ARF Bastards....forcing me to spend money. Breaking it in now with the smoker Busted 3500 first. One wheel was off the floor it was so bent. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170916_111427-308921.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170916_111427-308922.JPG 2000 watt https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170916_122100-308923.JPG |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 11:12:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Avidrook:
Is that the recommended break in procedure? Run it 8 hrs and then change the oil? for the honda, and I think the yamaha also, 1st change at 20 hrs / 1month, then every 100 hrs / 6 months. oil is usually 10-30w for general use including cold temps, or 30w for warm temps |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 11:13:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Nootropics]
[#10]
Here is a picture of it on its custom grocery cart, its a heavy bitch and the little wheels are absolute shit to roll it around
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Posted: 9/17/2017 11:38:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Official tag.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:28:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nootropics:
Here is a picture of it on its custom grocery cart, its a heavy bitch and the little wheels are absolute shit to roll it around https://s26.postimg.org/ie028b4sp/IMG_20170917_110256.jpg |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:30:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Well got through the first oil change. Oil was pretty clean after about 10hrs.
I loaded it up with a brick wet saw. Kicked ass. Going to keep working it on the job site and see how she handles it. Oblatory ARF special edition pic 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:32:27 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FL_Roscoe:
FYI, the EU2000i extended run kits in the picture won't work with the HF generator. It doesn't have a fuel pump like the EU2000i does so it needs to be gravity fed. I made a cap and tried it today. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:36:57 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
This is why I am giving thought to two of the smaller ones with parallel capability. Not only for the flexibility to use them in different places, but for the ability for a single person to handle them. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:40:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: crownvic96]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidgetIdjit:
Wonder if there's enough room inside the HF generator to install one of the Briggs & Stratton fuel pumps. Gravity feed makes me a little nervous. https://www.hunker.com/12133073/how-to-add-an-aux-fuel-tank-to-a-generator] edit: looks like that's how the ebay kits are doing it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/122559879457?chn=ps&dispItem=1 |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:47:17 PM EDT
[#17]
He'll, check the Ee, you can find Honda's close to that price.
Txl |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:56:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Got one for 399. I don't expect to use it outside of the breaking in, but after 4 days without power, I have no intention of living like a savage again. I'll be happy if it can run my fridge, instant pot and a few lights/fan.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:57:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mech2007]
[#19]
For a bad weather emergency use generator (refrigerator, some lights, phone/laptop charger) is the 2000 sufficient or do I need to go for the 3500? It would be nice to also run a microwave, but I don't know how many amps a refrigerator compressor pulls.
Everything I've read seems to indicate that the 2000 is enough. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 4:06:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxLewis:
He'll, check the Ee, you can find Honda's close to that price. Txl 
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Posted: 9/17/2017 4:08:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mech2007:
For a bad weather emergency use generator (refrigerator, some lights, phone/laptop charger) is the 2000 sufficient or do I need to go for the 3500? It would be nice to also run a microwave, but I don't know how many amps a refrigerator compressor pulls. Everything I've read seems to indicate that the 2000 is enough. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 4:13:03 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mech2007:
For a bad weather emergency use generator (refrigerator, some lights, phone/laptop charger) is the 2000 sufficient or do I need to go for the 3500? It would be nice to also run a microwave, but I don't know how many amps a refrigerator compressor pulls. Everything I've read seems to indicate that the 2000 is enough. For just the items listed, unless it is a giant fridge, like a subzero, you should be ok. A microwave, I would plug just that in and run it, then take it out and put the other stuff back. 1000 watt microwaves need about 1600 watts of juice. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 4:21:03 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mech2007:
For a bad weather emergency use generator (refrigerator, some lights, phone/laptop charger) is the 2000 sufficient or do I need to go for the 3500? It would be nice to also run a microwave, but I don't know how many amps a refrigerator compressor pulls. Everything I've read seems to indicate that the 2000 is enough. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 4:43:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crownvic96:
Buy a 2,000 and then you can always buy a second to run in parallel later if you need it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crownvic96:
Originally Posted By Mech2007:
For a bad weather emergency use generator (refrigerator, some lights, phone/laptop charger) is the 2000 sufficient or do I need to go for the 3500? It would be nice to also run a microwave, but I don't know how many amps a refrigerator compressor pulls. Everything I've read seems to indicate that the 2000 is enough. Don't answer that. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 5:06:38 PM EDT
[#25]
For those that have purchased this generator, is it difficult or messy to change the oil?
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Posted: 9/17/2017 5:10:00 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Avidrook:
For those that have purchased this generator, is it difficult or messy to change the oil? |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 5:16:52 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax:
Very easy, low mess. Easy to fill also. Basically tip back to fill (~12-13 ounces of oil) and tip forward to drain. I put mine up on 2x4s to make it higher to pour out. I saw another thread and the generator they were talking about was messy, he said he used a siphon to drain the oil. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 5:51:45 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Avidrook:
Good. I saw another thread and the generator they were talking about was messy, he said he used a siphon to drain the oil. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 5:55:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Nootropics]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mech2007:
For a bad weather emergency use generator (refrigerator, some lights, phone/laptop charger) is the 2000 sufficient or do I need to go for the 3500? It would be nice to also run a microwave, but I don't know how many amps a refrigerator compressor pulls. Everything I've read seems to indicate that the 2000 is enough. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 6:00:22 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nootropics:
Id buy the 3500, its an extra ~$150, it doesn't use much more fuel and is just as quiet, id rather have the extra capacity at the downsides of weight and slightly more fuel. Plus you get around the same capacity versus spending 499 twice if the 2000 isn't enough. Although having two would make them easier to move and have one for redundancy, but then there is twice the maintenance... It's really a tossup. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nootropics:
Originally Posted By Mech2007:
For a bad weather emergency use generator (refrigerator, some lights, phone/laptop charger) is the 2000 sufficient or do I need to go for the 3500? It would be nice to also run a microwave, but I don't know how many amps a refrigerator compressor pulls. Everything I've read seems to indicate that the 2000 is enough. If you have a bigger house or know for sure you're going to have a lot of demand on it then I could see the 3500 and maybe pick up a second one. I have a small house so I don't have a big power demand though. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 6:07:16 PM EDT
[#31]
There are also two a-iPower inverters that look to be the same, without the need for a parallel junction box, just connectors. 30 amp twist lock already built in. One model has a Yamaha motor.
Inverter 1 Yamaha powered model. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 6:32:09 PM EDT
[#32]
I stopped by the Jensen Beach, FL store today and they had 12 on the floor. Picked one up for $399. Thx
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Posted: 9/17/2017 6:33:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Banditman]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crownvic96:
I think you could get more versatility with two. You can start with one and upgrade to the second later. You can run one or both depending on your power demands to save fuel. You can run one separately if you need to power tools elsewhere as well. Plus you can always have one going if you need to do an oil change or maintenance on one. If you have a bigger house or know for sure you're going to have a lot of demand on it then I could see the 3500 and maybe pick up a second one. I have a small house so I don't have a big power demand though. hits them. I really wish I would have just went with the 3500 instead when I bought them. I believe there is a delay to respond to the load on the companions. I do not see this issue on the 3500. For the price of these predators you could get a 3500 and a 2000 for less than one Honda 2000 |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 6:41:03 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax:
It is confusing in the manual. But...this is under the break-in section. ETA: This makes it seem they want you to run it 25 hours on the first oil... Not a good idea. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170917_105409-309624.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax:
Originally Posted By Avidrook:
Is that the recommended break in procedure? Run it 8 hrs and then change the oil? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38726/20170917_105409-309624.JPG |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 7:11:15 PM EDT
[#35]
I hate seeing you guys buy so many generators when what your really need are more guns. And ammo.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 7:16:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
I hate seeing you guys buy so many generators when what your really need are more guns. And ammo. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 7:57:42 PM EDT
[#37]
My backorder just shipped. Well, label created.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 7:59:59 PM EDT
[#38]
Just ordered mine. I decided not to wait and see if the store gets any.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 8:03:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gixxersixxer:
The instructions may mean to change the oil every 8 hours until 24/25 hours then on the longer interval. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 8:30:25 PM EDT
[#40]
What and where are folks installing hour meters?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 8:51:07 PM EDT
[#41]
Called 3 Harbor Freights in my area today and none had the 2000 in stock. The Bradenton store had the 3500, but I think that I' d get more use out of the smaller portable one. Will the 2000 run power tools like a miter saw or circular saw?
I might check out the one posted from Costco. A Yamaha engine for $499 seems like a steal! |
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USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 9:13:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: slack_out]
[#42]
I ordered a Predator 2000 online with OP's coupon code for -$100 off earlier in the week. Still no ship notification and also noticed the website isn't telling us anything about it being back ordered, or not. So got antsy last couple of days and stopped by my Local HF. Was told they may get some generators on Sunday (today), but they won't be getting any truck shipments at all until next week. Lots of people are still without power in my area, so its not easy to find generators of any kind on shelves around here.
Stopped in again today on Sunday, 15 mins before closing. To my surprise they still had 4 of these 63079 Predator 4000/3200 advertised at $329. Not another generator in the store, as usual for the past few weeks. Went ahead and jumped on one, plus got the wheel kit cuz its heavy. Got to the register and they gave me -$55 off the $329 price, so made out at $274!!! Also bought a 2 year warranty @ $99. I may keep my Predator 2000 invertor generator for portability and quietness (if it ever ships). Pretty psyched about getting a 4000/3200 for $274 OTD (before taxes). eta @frankiebagadonuts stores in Brad/Sarasota had zero of the Pred 3500 invertor-generators yesterday and this afternoon, only Brad store had the 4000/3200 as discussed here in my post. There's 3 left and I was the last customer today. Charged me $274 before taxes. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 9:19:52 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slack_out:
I ordered a Predator 2000 online with OP's coupon code for -$100 off earlier in the week. Still no ship notification and also noticed the website isn't telling us anything about it being back ordered, or not. So got antsy last couple of days and stopped by my Local HF. Was told they may get some generators on Sunday (today), but they won't be getting any truck shipments at all until next week. Lots of people are still without power in my area, so its not easy to find generators of any kind on shelves around here. Stopped in again today on Sunday, 15 mins before closing. To my surprise they still had 4 of these 63079 Predator 4000/3200 advertised at $329. Not another generator in the store, as usual for the past few weeks. Went ahead and jumped on one, plus got the wheel kit cuz its heavy. Got to the register and they gave me -$55 off the $329 price, so made out at $274!!! Also bought a 2 year warranty @ $99. I may keep my Predator 2000 invertor generator for portability and quietness (if it ever ships). Pretty psyched about getting a 4000/3200 for $274 OTD (before taxes). |
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USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 9:26:29 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crownvic96:
That's a pretty good deal. Hopefully it's not too loud. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2017 9:44:32 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW:
On a whim I, stopped by Winter Garden (west Orlando) HF on the way home. All generators were gone, except this one. I was shocked, given that Irma was four days ago. $532 out the door with the coupon and extended 2 year warranty. I suppose anytime in the next 3 years if this craps out I drive it 2 miles up the road and get a new one. This is my biggest arfcom impulse buy to date. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/IMG_0750_JPG-308650.jpg But my elderly mom lives with us and is on constant oxygen from a dedicated machine that runs on 120v. During the hurricane our exit plan if we lost power was to evacuate her to the local hospital waiting room where she could plug her machine in. I tried running her machine on an old simple generator that I have, but the power fluctuations caused the machine to kick off every 5 minutes. The local news story today about 8 old folks dead at a nursing home due to power out pushed me over the line. now I need to score a simple one-room air conditioner and I think I'm set. Get some spare O2 tanks. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 9:48:04 PM EDT
[#46]
BTW, you can parallel an EU2000 with one of these.
So you could buy the EU2000 Companion with the 30A plug and one of these. An EU2000 will parallel with an inverter running off a battery or multiple Inveter gennys. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 10:03:26 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NotIssued:
That's a crappy plan. Only "red"outlets at the hospital get generator power when the grid goes down, and I bet they aren't in the waiting room. Get some spare O2 tanks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NotIssued:
Originally Posted By MRW:
On a whim I, stopped by Winter Garden (west Orlando) HF on the way home. All generators were gone, except this one. I was shocked, given that Irma was four days ago. $532 out the door with the coupon and extended 2 year warranty. I suppose anytime in the next 3 years if this craps out I drive it 2 miles up the road and get a new one. This is my biggest arfcom impulse buy to date. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/IMG_0750_JPG-308650.jpg But my elderly mom lives with us and is on constant oxygen from a dedicated machine that runs on 120v. During the hurricane our exit plan if we lost power was to evacuate her to the local hospital waiting room where she could plug her machine in. I tried running her machine on an old simple generator that I have, but the power fluctuations caused the machine to kick off every 5 minutes. The local news story today about 8 old folks dead at a nursing home due to power out pushed me over the line. now I need to score a simple one-room air conditioner and I think I'm set. Get some spare O2 tanks. She has 4 spare tanks, the most she can get, and that's 16 hours worth. Power here has been out for a week. That's a crappy plan too. But I ran her machine on the new 2000 Predator for 6 hours today without incident, a bit more than half a tank. It produces very smooth electricity. I changed the oil too. very easy to do. tip and pour. I set mine up a bit on an ammo can to give it some height. Has anyone run a portable air conditioner off of one of these? If so, what brand and type is it? How does it do? portable AC is my next purchase |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 12:20:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mitsuman47]
[#48]
I put this together from the available spec sheets for the guys debating on the 2000 (or 2) vs 3500. They seem to provide within 10% the wattage for the amount of fuel used. Also, >50% capacity seems to give you the highest watts per gallon of fuel used. So, if you're in a situation where you need to conserve fuel, and you plan to cycle the generator on and off, it seems best to load it up while it's on, and run it for shorter intervals....instead of running it at a lower % of capacity and letting it chug along for longer intervals.*
HF 2000: Running Watts 1600 1 gallon tank 6 hours at 50% capacity (800w) = .166 gph = 4816 watts per gallon HF 3500: Running Watts 3000 2.6 gallon tank 11 hours at 25% load (750w)= .236 gph = 3177 watts per gallon 9 hours at 50% load (1500w) = .288 gph = 5208 watts per gallon Honda 2000: running watts 1600 .95 gallon tank 8.1 hours at 25% load (400w)= .117 gph = 3418 watts per gallon 3.4 hours at 100% load (1600w) = .279 gph = 5734 watts per gallon *I ain't no mathematician, electrician, or anything fancy like that. I'm just a redneck with a calculator. So, there may be factors I didn't take into account. 
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Posted: 9/18/2017 12:37:16 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47:
Also, >50% capacity seems to give you the highest watts per gallon of fuel used. So, if you're in a situation where you need to conserve fuel, and you plan to cycle the generator on and off, it seems best to load it up while it's on, and run it for shorter intervals....instead of running it at a lower % of capacity and letting it chug along for longer intervals. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 6:36:26 AM EDT
[#50]
I apologize if this has been answered already......
Can these HF inverter generators be converted for propane use? Good info from this thread, thanks all Lookinup |
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