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Posted: 9/24/2020 6:13:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Probably proprietary. Since they are usually connected in parallel with the AC outlet, why not simply use a standard plug? Take a look at the genny's schematic. Yep, on most of Champion inverter models, the "parallel cable" connector is just another connection to the the 120 VAC outlets on the front panel - You can use either set of connectors to make the parallel connection. The only exception is a few older 2KW Champion models that also use a separate low-level "interface cable" that plugs into a small circular connector, in addition to the typical cable that carries AC power. |
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Posted: 9/24/2020 6:16:30 PM EDT
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Same with Honda's I've looked at.
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Posted: 9/24/2020 6:27:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Same with Honda's I've looked at. Yep. I replaced the plugs on my EU2000 and Companion with Twist Lock versions, then made a parallel cord. This way they can't be knocked loose (which would be dangerous since the parallel cord is essentially a suicide cord.) Using this method is easier than the parallel ports because you need a tool for the ground wire. It's also cleaner because you don't have a rats nest of wires. I made up some pigtails with male twist lock and female standard outlets to be able to plug directly into the generator when I'm not using it to power the house through the generator inlet. |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 12:32:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EXPY37]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Who wants to do it first? And deal with the power company 2nd?  Not sure the handle is linked directly, but uses a cam-like arrangement for operation. Have a breaker apart for the solar system design, will try to remember to look later today. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Originally Posted By Desert_AIP: Originally Posted By EXPY37: Originally Posted By Desert_AIP: Originally Posted By shortbed: Is it possible that the main breaker can still allow current to pass after you turn it off when you run the generator? No. The contacts are broken when off. That's how an interlock works. Turn off main breaker, slide lock, turn on generator br es Maker and feed the panel. He was implying I think, of the very unlikely technical possibility, and that would be if one of the main breaker contacts were 'welded' together and didn't open if set to be off. If the contacts were welded, then I would expect you to have to apply sufficient force to break the CB handle off to get it into the off position. That would be an indicator of what is known as "a problem".  To be completely safe, he should always remove the meter before attempting to run anything in the house on a generator... Who wants to do it first? And deal with the power company 2nd? Not sure the handle is linked directly, but uses a cam-like arrangement for operation. Have a breaker apart for the solar system design, will try to remember to look later today. Have looked at several breakers that I took apart a few years ago to study. They use an over-center spring loaded linkage and the handle is not fixed to the operating contact. So, if a contact should weld, the handle wouldn't be 'locked' to the contact and the welded contact might not be [mechanically] obvious. |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 3:39:37 PM EDT
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Will not take in a NationaL Park nor live in California.
Back Porch only, is it okay to remove the spark arrestor on a Predator 2000? |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 3:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK: Will not take in a NationaL Park nor live in California. Back Porch only, is it okay to remove the spark arrestor on a Predator 2000? I took mine off the 3500. |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 4:08:22 PM EDT
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This guy should run my 2k inverter for a little while.
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Posted: 10/3/2020 4:17:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKH: I took mine off the 3500. I bet that you tear off your mattress tags, too |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 8:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane: I bet that you tear off your mattress tags, too  |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 8:03:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane: I bet that you tear off your mattress tags, too 
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Posted: 10/3/2020 11:19:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKH: I took mine off the 3500. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKH: Originally Posted By M4-AK: Will not take in a NationaL Park nor live in California. Back Porch only, is it okay to remove the spark arrestor on a Predator 2000? I took mine off the 3500. Did you remove the screen AND that wire thing? Do you just have an open exhaust now? |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 12:46:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Avidrook: Did you remove the screen AND that wire thing? Do you just have an open exhaust now? Yes But mine just runs on gravel, if we took it camping I’d put it back. |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 1:00:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JoseCuervo]
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I'd bet that a good cleaning of that spark arrestor in kerosene or the like would have it running just as well without the [perceived] danger of starting a wildfire by removing it, the key being no back pressure [if backpressure is the cause of the problem].
Try that. First things first, cheapest FIRST! A spark plug is a few bucks. Solvent is nearly free. Don't pay until you have no other choices.  |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 1:14:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HKH]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo: I'd bet that a good cleaning of that spark arrestor in kerosene or the like would have it running just as well without the [perceived] danger of starting a wildfire by removing it, the key being no back pressure [if backpressure is the cause of the problem]. Try that. First things first, cheapest FIRST! A spark plug is a few bucks. Solvent is nearly free. Don't pay until you have no other choices. In addition to the arrest or, I did change the plug when I bought it. I also de-California’d it by removing the charcoal box and venting the cap. It runs amazingly well and clean now. It’s actually incredible the difference. That’s in addition to the propane conversion. |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 2:54:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DimaChado]
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I'm doing a lot of research on a good emergency generator for my house around the 3,000-3,500W range that I can also use every now and then for my camping trailer, and so far I've learned that there are a ton of people on YouTube who run their generators indoors for filming purposes
 But seriously, I'm considering the Predator 3500 inverter to run essentials in my home in an emergency, but also to provide clean power for camping. I like the price and they seem pretty decent. Dual fuel options would be great but they're pretty expensive from what I've seen so far. Champions seem well rated as well but I cant see what the extra $400-$500 gets me. What say the hive? |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 3:02:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DimaChado: I'm doing a lot of research on a good emergency generator for my house around the 3,000-3,500W range that I can also use every now and then for my camping trailer, and so far I've learned that there are a ton of people on YouTube who run their generators indoors for filming purposes But seriously, I'm considering the Predator 3500 inverter to run essentials in my home in an emergency, but also to provide clean power for camping. I like the price and they seem pretty decent. Dual fuel options would be great but they're pretty expensive from what I've seen so far. Champions seem well rated as well but I cant see what the extra $400-$500 gets me. What say the hive? Champions are awesome, we have a 11500 KW for the house and a Predator 3500 for the trailer. Also have the 2K Predator and the 3200 open frame Champion. A 1000K Honda just because. The Champions are work horses, the Predators seem pretty solid but mind isn't made up yet. For the camp trailer it is fine I think. |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 3:24:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Skibane]
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Posted: 10/5/2020 6:50:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DimaChado: I'm doing a lot of research on a good emergency generator for my house around the 3,000-3,500W range that I can also use every now and then for my camping trailer, and so far I've learned that there are a ton of people on YouTube who run their generators indoors for filming purposes But seriously, I'm considering the Predator 3500 inverter to run essentials in my home in an emergency, but also to provide clean power for camping. I like the price and they seem pretty decent. Dual fuel options would be great but they're pretty expensive from what I've seen so far. Champions seem well rated as well but I cant see what the extra $400-$500 gets me. What say the hive? |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 12:35:37 AM EDT
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Has anyone added an inline fuel filter to a Predator 2000?
My research says the gas line is 5/16 id. Is that correct? |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 1:59:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Avidrook: Has anyone added an inline fuel filter to a Predator 2000? My research says the gas line is 5/16 id. Is that correct? I have not, but that doesn’t sound right to me. 3/16’s, or OD maybe. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 2:10:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo: I have not, but that doesn’t sound right to me. 3/16’s, or OD maybe. Agree... |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:34:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Agree... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Originally Posted By JoseCuervo: I have not, but that doesn’t sound right to me. 3/16’s, or OD maybe. Agree... Ok thanks If I get brave i'll report back |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:44:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Avidrook: Did you remove the screen AND that wire thing? Do you just have an open exhaust now? In China they probably do not use Spark Arrestors. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:45:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2020 10:54:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Vengeance6661]
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New to generators. We are without power for close to a day now because of a storm. Looking at the HF generators. I dont need whole house, just something to run my fridge and maybe a light and a few other appliances. What model? Do I need conventional or inverter? Don't want to spend an arm and a leg. Our neighbors have what I believe are loud Predator HF series generators.
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Posted: 10/8/2020 11:18:33 AM EDT
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We have the Predator 3500 it is very quiet.
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Posted: 10/10/2020 6:51:00 PM EDT
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Alright people that know generators and electronics way better than me....quick question
I have a gas tankless water heater and a non-inverter generator. The water is heated by gas, but I’m sure hit has some type of electrical board in it to control it. Do y’all think it is safe to hook to the generator for a bit to take a warm shower or should I eventually get a small inverter gen just for it and other electronics |
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Posted: 10/10/2020 7:38:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcs12345: Alright people that know generators and electronics way better than me....quick question I have a gas tankless water heater and a non-inverter generator. The water is heated by gas, but I’m sure hit has some type of electrical board in it to control it. Do y’all think it is safe to hook to the generator for a bit to take a warm shower or should I eventually get a small inverter gen just for it and other electronics Probably ok. The board probably runs on 5V, so it'll have it's own AC to DC transformer rectifier. |
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Posted: 10/10/2020 10:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP: Probably ok. The board probably runs on 5V, so it'll have it's own AC to DC transformer rectifier. Fuck it....I’m sweaty and the wife also wants a shower. Think I’ll risk it |
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Posted: 10/10/2020 11:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcs12345: Fuck it....I’m sweaty and the wife also wants a shower. Think I’ll risk it You should probably wait for eight more GD opinions. 
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Posted: 10/12/2020 8:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dcs12345: Fuck it....I’m sweaty and the wife also wants a shower. Think I’ll risk it Go on ...
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Posted: 10/22/2020 11:14:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TailHunter: Go on ... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TailHunter: Originally Posted By dcs12345: Fuck it....I’m sweaty and the wife also wants a shower. Think I’ll risk it Go on ... So? |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 1:52:20 PM EDT
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I picked up a used Briggs q6500 today for $700. I have a 240v well pump, and my 240v generator was a contractor model. The q6500 is much quieter. About $3k cheaper than the yamaha and honda versions.
Anyone else have one? I am going to try to convert to LP. No kit is available so I'll have to be the guinea pig. |
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Posted: 10/25/2020 5:58:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Gage]
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Posted: 10/26/2020 5:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gage: WOOT.com - WEN inverter generator 2000 watt for $379 shipped I almost had my wife buy this. She has prime. Her question was, do we really need it?  I'm holding out for the newer 2250 model |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 6:42:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Global_Cooling]
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Posted: 10/29/2020 6:57:18 PM EDT
[#37]
At my inlaws this week in NC.
Zeta knocked out power at 8am this morning. Still no power. Running Predator 2000W generator all day. Got refrigerator, small freezer, phone charger, tv, satellite receiver, and a lamp on it. Had to take it off eco mode because when compressors kicked in voltage dropped enough to reboot satellite receiver. Really impressed with fuel consumption even not on eco mode. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 7:04:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Duck_Hunt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By memsu: At my inlaws this week in NC. Zeta knocked out power at 8am this morning. Still no power. Running Predator 2000W generator all day. Got refrigerator, small freezer, phone charger, tv, satellite receiver, and a lamp on it. Had to take it off eco mode because when compressors kicked in voltage dropped enough to reboot satellite receiver. Really impressed with fuel consumption even not on eco mode. Yea we’ve been w/o power since 8:30am or so. Doesn’t look like it’s going to be on anytime soon. ETA: when duke energy unloads a D7 dozer in your neighbors field at 9pm... you know it’s going to be a while
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:17:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Honda4828: Yea we’ve been w/o power since 8:30am or so. Doesn’t look like it’s going to be on anytime soon. ETA: when duke energy unloads a D7 dozer in your neighbors field at 9pm... you know it’s going to be a while We are still without power this morning. Duke hasn't even updated when we might get power. Still says accessing damage. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 12:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By memsu: We are still without power this morning. Duke hasn't even updated when we might get power. Still says accessing damage. Duke has really gotten caught with their pants down on this one. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 6:17:03 PM EDT
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Going on 48 hours here in NOLA without power. I've put 37 hours on the Predator 2000 since the power went out and it's been running great. Using it to power the refrigerator, internet modem, tv, laptop and a few led lights. I just topped the fuel off and its only burned 4 gallons. Still have another 36 stored if needed.
Just did an oil change and could have waited a little longer judging how the oil looked. It was still gold / yellow with not much material in it. The magnetic dip stick had some fines on it but nothing alarming. The generator had 40 hours on it since since the last oil change this spring. It still has the NGK spark plug I installed at 6 hours. Couldn't be happier how this has worked out. |
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Posted: 11/2/2020 11:58:31 AM EDT
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Finally broke down and bought a small 2000 watt inverter generator - Champion 100402. Seems like a nice generator with good reviews. I replaced the spark plug with a NGK and am using dino oil to break-in - will only be using 100% gas in it. Gonna run it 1 hour no load - change oil, 1 hour no load - change oil, 1 hour 40% load - change oil, 1 hour 40% load - change oil, 1 hour alternating no load and 40% load - change oil to synthetic and then store until needed. I'll be using it for camping and for power outages when needed. I'll run it for a while every couple months.
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Posted: 11/2/2020 12:35:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flying2275: Going on 48 hours here in NOLA without power. I've put 37 hours on the Predator 2000 since the power went out and it's been running great. Using it to power the refrigerator, internet modem, tv, laptop and a few led lights. I just topped the fuel off and its only burned 4 gallons. Still have another 36 stored if needed. Just did an oil change and could have waited a little longer judging how the oil looked. It was still gold / yellow with not much material in it. The magnetic dip stick had some fines on it but nothing alarming. The generator had 40 hours on it since since the last oil change this spring. It still has the NGK spark plug I installed at 6 hours. Couldn't be happier how this has worked out. Today will be day 5 since Hurricane Zeta knocked out the power. Their's still power lines down on the road and Entergy has yet to begin working in my area. I've put 98 hours on the Predator 2000 during this outage and have 112 total hours on it. Its still running good. Its been 60 hours since the last oil change and it was starting to darken some so I changed it this morning. The magnetic dip stick has some fine material on it but less than last time. So far I've burned 9 gallons of gas. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 12:09:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: flying2275]
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Powers finally back on tonight, 8 days and 5 hours after Hurricane Zeta came through. In total I ran the Predator 2000 187 hours during this outage and have 202 total hrs on it.
During this outage I did three oil changes, replaced the NGK spark plug twice (based on hours not due to a failure) and burned 16.5 gallons of fuel. The fuel economy seemed to be improving as I went and on the last few fill ups I was getting just over 11.5 hours on a tank of fuel. It ran great the whole time and I would definitely recommend the Predator 2000 for anyone looking for a small generator. This made an 8 day power outage just a minor inconvenience. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 12:12:07 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flying2275: Powers finally back on tonight, 8 days and 5 hours after Hurricane Zeta came through. In total I ran the Predator 2000 187 hours during this outage and have 202 total hrs on it. During this outage I did three oil changes, replaced the NGK spark plug twice (based on hours not due to a failure) and burned 16.5 gallons of fuel. The fuel economy seemed to be improving as I went and on the last few fill ups I was getting just over 11.5 hours on a tank of fuel. It ran great the whole time and I would definitely recommend the Predator 2000 for anyone looking for a small generator. This made an 8 day power outage just a minor inconvenience. Get the WEN version. It has a coin slot door for easy oil change access. Same basic generator. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 12:22:37 AM EDT
[#46]
Did anyone get a budget generator and wish they got a Honda? I'm wondering if the EU2200i is worth twice the price of the others.
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Posted: 11/6/2020 12:24:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: flying2275]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK: Get the WEN version. It has a coin slot door for easy oil change access. Same basic generator. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK: Originally Posted By flying2275: Powers finally back on tonight, 8 days and 5 hours after Hurricane Zeta came through. In total I ran the Predator 2000 187 hours during this outage and have 202 total hrs on it. During this outage I did three oil changes, replaced the NGK spark plug twice (based on hours not due to a failure) and burned 16.5 gallons of fuel. The fuel economy seemed to be improving as I went and on the last few fill ups I was getting just over 11.5 hours on a tank of fuel. It ran great the whole time and I would definitely recommend the Predator 2000 for anyone looking for a small generator. This made an 8 day power outage just a minor inconvenience. Get the WEN version. It has a coin slot door for easy oil change access. Same basic generator. That would have made it easier than taking the whole side panel off to check / change the oil. After the first day I started only putting the center screw back in. I'm currently thinking about picking up one of the Predator 3500's to be able to run a window a/c and the refrigerator if the power would go out during the summer. We got lucky with this storm as the daytime temps have been in the low 70's and humidity nice and low. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 1:04:35 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rustypigeon: Did anyone get a budget generator and wish they got a Honda? I'm wondering if the EU2200i is worth twice the price of the others. In some cases, three times the price. Is one Honda worth three Champions? IMO, no. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 7:00:29 AM EDT
[#49]
I have both.
Although the Honda is smaller & slightly quieter, we always use the champions to keep the hours off the Honda and less likely to be stolen from a job site. I got a really good deal on the Honda on clearance at Sam’s for $700 years ago. If I were to do it all over again I would have bought 2 champions for what I spent on the Honda. |
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Posted: 11/6/2020 9:08:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rustypigeon: Did anyone get a budget generator and wish they got a Honda? I'm wondering if the EU2200i is worth twice the price of the others. Nope |
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