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7/24/2017 11:42:38 AM EDT
I was watching the live feed last night listening to some facts about it. When asked how much is original, they said 8-12%!!! I figured more than that, amazing how little is left from when it was built...
7/24/2017 11:45:04 AM EDT
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I would have guessed 50-60%
7/24/2017 11:47:26 AM EDT
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Yep. This is my grand pappy's axe. I replaced the handle two times and the head too, but this is my grand pappy's axe.  
7/24/2017 11:50:03 AM EDT
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Same argument arose in ancient days about the Argos (Jason and the Argonauts).  The Argives kept rebuilding her and a discussion arose as to whether she was the real Argos or a new ship.
7/24/2017 11:57:27 AM EDT
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She's still cool as shit.  Very impressive in person.  5 decks yes 5 fracking decks(the models are wrong) though they get shorter as you go down.  The only one I can stand up in (5'7") was the gun deck.
7/24/2017 12:02:32 PM EDT
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The modifications to install the nuclear reactor, the rail guns and the cloaking device were responsible for much of the original ship being replaced.

At her current build-out she should be putting terror into the hearts of Barbary Pirates until 2300AD at least.
7/24/2017 12:27:28 PM EDT
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My nephew helped put the scaffolding up around it.
7/24/2017 12:33:07 PM EDT
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My grandson got to sail it!  
7/24/2017 12:40:08 PM EDT
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She's beautiful.

The living embodiment of our navy in wood and sail. She stands for much more than the physicality of being the oldest ship of the line. She's every sailor past present and future to ever wear this inform. I'm an Airedale and do not go to sea but I do fish off shore often as I can and launching through the inlet and hitting the open ocean is a feeling that is second only to flight for me. The sense I feel when I look out at that expanse containing all the water in the world and knowing that we own it. We, the United States Navy fucking own it. And that ship of wood and cloth and the history it represents is the physical manifestation of that for me.

Pride baby.
7/24/2017 12:41:59 PM EDT
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She's beautiful.

The living embodiment of our navy in wood and sail. She stands for much more than the physicality of being the oldest ship of the line. She's every sailor past present and future to ever wear this inform. I'm an Airedale and do not go to sea but I do fish off shore often as I can and launching through the inlet and hitting the open ocean is a feeling that is second only to flight for me. The sense I feel when I look out at that expanse containing all the water in the world and knowing that we own it. We, the United States Navy fucking own it. And that ship of wood and cloth and the history it represents is the physical manifestation of that for me.

Pride baby.
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Triggered!!!  She's a Frigate!!!  
7/24/2017 12:44:52 PM EDT
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She's beautiful.

The living embodiment of our navy in wood and sail. She stands for much more than the physicality of being the oldest ship of the line. She's every sailor past present and future to ever wear this inform. I'm an Airedale and do not go to sea but I do fish off shore often as I can and launching through the inlet and hitting the open ocean is a feeling that is second only to flight for me. The sense I feel when I look out at that expanse containing all the water in the world and knowing that we own it. We, the United States Navy fucking own it. And that ship of wood and cloth and the history it represents is the physical manifestation of that for me.

Pride baby.
Triggered!!!  She's a Frigate!!!  
Yep.

As far as I know, the United States never had what would be considered a "ship of the line" - at least, not until the age of steam.
7/24/2017 12:45:02 PM EDT
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Wooden sailing vessels were being constantly rebuilt even when they were new, especially a man-of war.  8-12% probably represents a big percentage of the iron, brass etc. on the ship.  Pretty much all of the wood and rigging would have been replaced many times over its life.  I was disappointed that we didn't get to tour more of the ship when I was there 4 years ago.
7/24/2017 12:46:47 PM EDT
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We've ran into something similar with a pieces of processing equipment. Legally we can't build a new one, but we can replace the bottom half this year, and the top half next year. Its the same machine even though none is original.
7/24/2017 12:48:17 PM EDT
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As far as I know, the United States never had what would be considered a "ship of the line" - at least, not until the age of steam.
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We did have a few built after the War of 1812.  Apparently they were no longer "too expensive" after Washington was burned.  Most were in ordinary, but a few did some piracy patrols off of the Barbary coast.  

U.S.S. North Carolina
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7/24/2017 12:49:18 PM EDT
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Woohooo... gotta love taxes!!!  hell yeah!!
7/24/2017 12:56:09 PM EDT
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All of the cells in your body replicate and die multiple times throughout your lifespan. Are you still the same person afterwards?
7/24/2017 12:58:11 PM EDT
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Yep.

As far as I know, the United States never had what would be considered a "ship of the line" - at least, not until the age of steam.
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You get the picture.
7/24/2017 12:59:37 PM EDT
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Me too, still love it though...
7/24/2017 1:01:03 PM EDT
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Do they have urinals on that ship?
7/24/2017 1:03:26 PM EDT
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One of my biggest regrets from being stationed in Maine was not going down to go check it out. Only reason I never went was the guys there told me it was a 6 hour trip. I took that as taking 6 hours to get down there. After I left I later learned they meant it was 3 hours down and 3 back up making it 6 hours. This was back in the days before google maps was even a twinkle in someone's eye and dial-up was king. If I'm ever back out in the Northeast for whatever reason it's on my list.
7/24/2017 1:04:30 PM EDT
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Ha, wood, how does it work?
7/24/2017 1:05:44 PM EDT
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I was aboard a few years back before she went into dry-dock. Got to tour with the wife and kiddies.

I found it awe inspiring to walk the same decks and see the same view as Sailors serving our country saw hundreds of years ago.

May she always sail.
7/24/2017 1:06:52 PM EDT
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They have literal heads.  As in a hole at the head of the ship where you can piss and shit into the waves below.


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7/24/2017 1:07:19 PM EDT
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You got up to the bowsprit  there's some planks for holes cut out of them that hand over the sea.  That's where you do your biz...
7/24/2017 2:18:11 PM EDT
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Yep.

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We had at least one built before steam took off.
7/24/2017 2:22:05 PM EDT
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There were a few, all of which IIRC were named after States like those of the modern Navy. Frigates like the Constitution were the contemporary equivalent of cruisers (true cruisers, as opposed to escorts like what many existing ships called "cruisers" are today).
7/24/2017 5:19:30 PM EDT
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Many years ago I used to walk across the 'salt and pepper' (aka Longfellow) bridge each day, seeing the USS. Constitution berthed on the side was a high point of my day.
7/24/2017 5:39:17 PM EDT
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If you mean "oldest still in commission" that would be the HMS Victory.

HMS Victory
7/24/2017 5:40:41 PM EDT
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If you mean "oldest still in commission" that would be the HMS Victory.

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HMS Victory is the oldest in commission.  USS Constitution is the oldest in active service.  Both are excellent examples of the great age of sail, and we are lucky to have both.  I want to visit them someday.
7/24/2017 5:45:58 PM EDT
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They were often referred to as cruisers.  Frigate was a ship type, cruiser was a role.  

Frigate: Single continuous gun deck, additional guns on forecastle and quarterdeck, ship-rigged (i.e. three masts of square sails).  

Cruiser: Ship employed for independent duties such as for convoy escort, anti-piracy, etc.  Often used frigates or two-deckers that were too small to stand in the line of battle.