[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Photography compatability question (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/18/2017 10:25:52 PM EDT
| I'm in the process of saving for a 5D mark IV but want to snag a lens now. Will a Canon 24-70 2.8 still work on a Rebel T1i? Obviously without reaching its full potential. |
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Thanks. That's what I was hoping to hear. Is the 2.8 really worth it over the 4? Mostly shooting kids and families outdoors. The below shot was taken with a 70-200 f2.8 L on a Rebel XT.
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Thanks. That's what I was hoping to hear. Is the 2.8 really worth it over the 4? Mostly shooting kids and families outdoors. Quoted:
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It will but the image will be cropped with the smaller sensor. Is the 2.8 really worth it over the 4? Mostly shooting kids and families outdoors. The f4 is better for video. The f2.8 is better for low light. I have one of each. |
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Yes 2.8 is always better but mostly for indoors and low light or artsy depth of focus. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404018/-DSC9324-174257.jpg Quoted:
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Thanks. That's what I was hoping to hear. Is the 2.8 really worth it over the 4? Mostly shooting kids and families outdoors. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404018/-DSC9324-174257.jpg |
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Unless your buying cheap lenses a 2.8 is going to be far sharper than a F4 on at F4 or higher lens. 2.8 on zeiss lenses only require to be stopped down one to become sharper. If weight is an issue we would not be talking about a 2.8 lens.
He is also talking about buying a full frame camera in the future and the 2.8 on a 35 mm camera is awesome depending on the lens bought. I should added I shoot video with my alpha 99 with 2.8 24-75 zeiss and 70-200g auto focus lens and have no problem with video quality. |
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Unless your buying cheap lenses a 2.8 is going to be far sharper than a F4 on at F4 or higher lens. 2.8 on zeiss lenses only require to be stopped down one to become sharper. If weight is an issue we would not be talking about a 2.8 lens. He is also talking about buying a full frame camera in the future and the 2.8 on a 35 mm camera is awesome depending on the lens bought. |
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Thanks. That's what I was hoping to hear. Is the 2.8 really worth it over the 4? Mostly shooting kids and families outdoors. Nobody ever said ever "Gee, I wish my lens didn't open up to 2.8; I really LIKE being only able to go to 4". The Nikon 35mm f/1.8 costs about $200. The 35 f/1.4 costs about $1,400. Amazing that not quite a full stop is worth about $1,200. |
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The 2.8 doesn't have IS. |
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I love the 24-70 f/2.8 II L on my MKIV. Replaced my 24-105mm as my "general lens".
It will work fine, but I would honestly focus on body first(but that's just me). If you have any specific questions or want any kind of sample photos, let me know, I'd be happy to answer. |
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2.8 is getting to the point that IS (or VR for you smart, good looking Nikon guys) isn't really needed. I mean, seriously, IS is good for a supposed what, 2-3 stops? How much lower do you need to go than 2.8? And if you REALLY need to go faster than 2.8, you're buying red-ring super-cash lenses that are 1.8 or 1.4. Quoted:
The 2.8 doesn't have IS. 
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A little DOF comparison on my 35 f/1.8:
Focus on the 19 at 1.8  G19-19 f/1.8 by FredMan, on Flickr
Focus on Glock logo at 1.8  G19-Glock f/1.8 by FredMan, on Flickr
Focus on the 19 at f/11  G19-f/11 by FredMan, on Flickr
Adjust shutter for same exposure. |
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The joy of Canon.. they change their shit so often you don't know what it might fit. Nikon on the other hand.. I can use a lens from the 60's and it will still mount to my D810. |
| It should work fine. Keep in mind that when you use the 24-70 you'll pick up some reach on the long end but lose range on the wide side. You can get a bit of an idea by setting the 18-55 to 24mm and seeing how that does. So kind of depends on your subject matter choices, etc., but should be ok. |
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I own a Canon and 2 Nikons. This is why I only buy Nikon. The Canon was a gift from a friend that wanted me to have a wider angle lens for the perticular work I was doing at the time. Great gift/camera. But the lens thing with Canon kills it. Quoted:
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The joy of Canon.. they change their shit so often you don't know what it might fit. Nikon on the other hand.. I can use a lens from the 60's and it will still mount to my D810. |
| Seems too good to be true. What am I missing? |
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How about in English? If I haven't said it, my wife is the expert. I'm the money  Quoted:
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It doesn't appear to be the II |
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I apologize, I did make it that far in the interpretation. Does the II provide me $600 in value? Would you, personally, buy the I at that price? Quoted:
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The lens in the link is the generation I (older) model. The newer model is generation II. Would you, personally, buy the I at that price? |
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I bought my 24-70 F2.8 II for about $1300 refurbed from the Canon site when it was on sale. So no, I wouldn't get the gen I. But I was in no hurry to buy it at the time. Waited 8 or 9 months for the perfect deal. |
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There's EF and EF-S as I recall so it depends on the body. The reason I got my free Canon and all the lenses is cause my buddy's wife went to a different Canon and those lenses would no longer work on her new body. Quoted:
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Are all canon dslr's not EF mount? |
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There's EF and EF-S as I recall so it depends on the body. The reason I got my free Canon and all the lenses is cause my buddy's wife went to a different Canon and those lenses would no longer work on her new body. |
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Haha, I definitely agree Not trying to be a cheap skate but trying to stretch my dollars towards a 5d mark IV body too |
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Crop sensor cameras are EF-S mount Quoted:
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Ah interesting. I've honestly never heard of EF-S mount. Is it more for their cheaper dslrs? |
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I guess I know less than I thought about DSLRs. I swore we used regular EF lenses on canon 60d's in college. ETA: 
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The joy of Canon.. they change their shit so often you don't know what it might fit. Nikon on the other hand.. I can use a lens from the 60's and it will still mount to my D810. Fortunately because it's Nikon all my lenses will work just fine on a new camera so I can buy just the camera body and save money. That said... the D7500 is pretty expensive even as just itself. If anyone knows where to look for camera deals... Please let me know so I watch those places for a good deal. |
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Read my above post. You can use an EF or EF-S on a crop sensor camera. (Which the 60D is). You can't use an EF-S on a full size sensor camera (MK5). Quoted:
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I guess I know less than I thought about DSLRs. I swore we used regular EF lenses on canon 60d's in college. |
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Fairly noticeable difference in terms of image quality between the v1 and v2 of the 24-70/2.8. The 24-105/4 v1 sits squarely between those two in sharpness. The 24-105 v2 muddy's the water a bit when it comes to need vs want, the v2 of either is quite good.
The 2.8, either generation, comes with a substantial weight/size/cost penalty. Unless you are splitting optical hairs and really know what you are looking at, dial up the ISO and get the f/4 version, it's only one stop slower but a good bit smaller. Analog was far more dependent on fast lenses than digital is. But, if shallow DOF is the main objective, get the widest they make. |
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That seems like a crazy jump to an expensive camera from a T1i. Why don't you get something like the 80D and a few nice lenses for the same money. I'm still using a T3i. I think next year I may finally upgrade when the 90D comes out. I've made the argument to my wife for a 60/70d to no avail. I really don't want to be upgrading again in 2yrs. She's has the T1i since at least 2010. She has a good friend selling a 60d and buying a 5dmark IV as well who keeps saying she regretted not jumping to the 5d initially so there's that too |
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EF-S 18-55 kit lens EF 75-300 EF 50 1.8 
Like I said, all on a Rebel T1i EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS II (kit lens) EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM (kit lens) EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM EF 50mm f/1.4 USM I'd like to upgrade to the latest body in the Rebel (T-Series) line. I don't think I'd derive full benefit from one of their pro-level cameras. |
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don't get a DSLR if you can help it. Spend your money on good prime lenses
I would look at other options before investing in the canon system. You'll keep the glass longer than the camera so don't skimp on that! Primes are better! that extreme shallow depth of field crap is mostly for amateurs |