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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:09:54 PM EDT
Is it worth the $200 anymore?
I really can't think of any pros to a stock that an improperly used brace does not provide besides the ability to use a VFG... maybe a few yrs ago you could say the looks, but that's no longer true IMO I can however list a few pros that a brace provides. - ability to use it hunting in a handgun zone - carrying it loaded in the front seat - no stamp cost or paperwork - can cross state lines - can be sold without reconfiguration - no engraving requirements - I am sure I missed a few I made this infographic to show what I mean about the looks 
ETA: I did not include the wait because you can use a brace during that 10 month period, poll may be a bit skewed for that reason |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:11:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Just build pistols with fancy short uppers
Whatever you do in your own home, wooded property, or after the apocalypse is your business 
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:11:44 PM EDT
[#2]
sure it's worth $200, but it is DAMN sure not worth the $200 and 10 month wait
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:14:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Brace Yo' Self, Fool!
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:15:15 PM EDT
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Is it worth the $200 anymore? I really can't think of any pros to a stock that an improperly used brace does not provide besides the ability to use a VFG... maybe a few yrs ago you could say the looks, but that's no longer true IMO I can however list a few pros that a brace provides. - ability to use it hunting in a handgun zone - carrying it loaded in the front seat - no stamp cost or paperwork - can cross state lines - can be sold without reconfiguration - no engraving requirements - I am sure I missed a few I made this infographic to show what I mean about the looks http://i.imgur.com/T10uNoY.jpg Can't possess AR/AK pistols here (without jumping through 99.9% impossible hoops) so SBRing is the only route. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:15:58 PM EDT
[#5]
I think so.
I have both. The money isn't the issue as pointed out, its the wait. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:16:23 PM EDT
[#6]
Not to me
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:16:47 PM EDT
[#7]
1: For me, yep. I am thinking about a 10.5 or 11.5 in my probably not so near future if wait times stay like this
2: FNFA, repeal ASAP. Even the Canucks can have SBRs without dealing with this bullshit. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:16:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:17:37 PM EDT
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I think so. I have both. The money isn't the issue as pointed out, its the wait. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:18:40 PM EDT
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I have both, no more SBRs for me. The wait is too long and the braces are practically stocks at this point, especially now that we don't have to play pretend. If the wait comes down I might change my mind.
Now a harder recoiling SBR? Maybe worth considering a real stock. I have not bought anything nfa since the rules change, mostly because of the insane wait. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:18:53 PM EDT
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I don't think it is but like others said it's the wait not the money. Plus all of the hoops you have to jump through now with fingerprints, photo's, trust etc.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:19:07 PM EDT
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I think so. I have both. The money isn't the issue as pointed out, its the wait. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:19:10 PM EDT
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I will never sbr anything again. I dealt with the $200 and the wait, but after they screwed trusts, that was it. Pistol braces from here on out.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:22:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Id have no problem paying the $200 for each sbr, but the retardedness of the nfa is an obstacle.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:22:55 PM EDT
[#15]
I SBR'd one receiver. The rest are braced pistols. I can swap any upper over to the SBR lower
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:24:14 PM EDT
[#16]
Yes.
Worth it. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:26:10 PM EDT
[#17]
First World Problems..
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:26:33 PM EDT
[#18]
Which brace is this?
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:27:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Pistols braces are gay and for the lazy and poor.
Sucks paying $200 and waiting but it's the only game in town if you want to have cool rifle. Adjustable length of pull and asthetics are enough for me to pay the money. If I ever put one of those ugly braces on a pistol I would look at it with disgust every time I opened the safe. I like having the stock the rifle was intended to have not some abomination. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:29:55 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistorySBM4 from SB Tactical
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:31:04 PM EDT
[#21]
To cut a 16" barrel down to 14.5, no.
IMO, for certain firearms like MP5s, Scorpion EVO, AKSU-74, etc. yes it is definitely worth it. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:31:17 PM EDT
[#22]
... probably not to poor people
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:32:47 PM EDT
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I SBR'd one receiver. The rest are braced pistols. I can swap any upper over to the SBR lower Get both. Lots of SBRs and pistols |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:32:48 PM EDT
[#24]
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I will never sbr anything again. I dealt with the $200 and the wait, but after they screwed trusts, that was it. Pistol braces from here on out. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:34:05 PM EDT
[#25]
I have SBRs and I don't think it's worth it. The wait is bullshit and other than VFGs on certain lengths it doesn't matter to me.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:34:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Honestly now that you can shoulder a brace I'm not really sure if I will build another SBR or not. Also agree that it's not so much the money, but the damn wait (10 months and 10 days for my last SBR stamp that I E-Filed).
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:35:02 PM EDT
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SBM4 from SB Tactical |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:36:05 PM EDT
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Honestly now that you can shoulder a brace I'm not really sure if I will build another SBR or not. Also agree that it's not so much the money, but the damn wait (10 months and 10 days for my last SBR stamp that I E-Filed). Thinking about just getting my first AR pistol instead |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:37:49 PM EDT
[#29]
The ATF will read this and try to ban braces and everything now.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:37:53 PM EDT
[#30]
SBR is enshrined in law.
Braces are a capricious decision by ATF. In 5 years, the ATF could completely reverse itself and decide they are actually SBRs. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:39:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Also there are rifles that have no pistol variants and can not be made to pistols.
SBR>brace |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:39:48 PM EDT
[#32]
I have both, with a lot more SBRs.
I prefer having a correct, adjustable stock and VFG over a brace any day. Tax stamp FTW. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:40:30 PM EDT
[#33]
I have a bunch of SBR's but once they changed the trust rules, I will brace from here on out.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:41:30 PM EDT
[#34]
Have you guys heard about bullpups?
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:42:06 PM EDT
[#35]
I have several SBR's.
The new travel kit. 
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:42:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I will never sbr anything again. I dealt with the $200 and the wait, but after they screwed trusts, that was it. Pistol braces from here on out. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:45:48 PM EDT
[#37]
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Pistols braces are gay and for the lazy and poor.
Sucks paying $200 and waiting but it's the only game in town if you want to have cool rifle. Adjustable length of pull and asthetics are enough for me to pay the money. If I ever put one of those ugly braces on a pistol I would look at it with disgust every time I opened the safe. I like having the stock the rifle was intended to have not some abomination.  hard rock candy I bet you are easy to sneak-up on too.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:45:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Hey OP, what kind of braces are these?
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:46:55 PM EDT
[#39]
When e-forms came out and it was 3 month wait it was certainly worth it for a AR lower or two and the whole brace thing wasn't a problem. Also for specialty items that you can't get a brace for like a bull pup (ps90)
Note too you can avoid 5320.20 by slapping on a 16" upper and going for a drive. If suppressors become title 1 when people will start perm attaching them to 10" barrels with small gas ports or making 16" total integral suppressed. (Will that require 2 background checks on one gun?)
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:48:35 PM EDT
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I have several SBR's. The new travel kit. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/Bamashooter/Gun%20Pics/20170318_192350_zps0gvoagji.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/Bamashooter/Gun%20Pics/20170318_192243_zpsyu4cppfb.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/Bamashooter/Gun%20Pics/20170318_192145_zps7huhmyhu.jpg 
Nice |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:49:39 PM EDT
[#41]
For me it's not about the stamp so much as it's about the pain in the ass with travel, trusts, man in my life, etc.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:50:55 PM EDT
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SBR is enshrined in law. Braces are a capricious decision by ATF. In 5 years, the ATF could completely reverse itself and decide they are actually SBRs. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:51:02 PM EDT
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Hey OP, what kind of braces are these? http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/JAD762/braces_zpso9imbb8j.jpg MPX- SBtactical MPX PSB |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:51:04 PM EDT
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I just got my eform 1 for my PS90 back.
Brace is not a solution for my PS90, homie. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:51:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote History Quoted:
Pistols braces are gay and for the lazy and poor.
Sucks paying $200 and waiting but it's the only game in town if you want to have cool rifle. Adjustable length of pull and asthetics are enough for me to pay the money. If I ever put one of those ugly braces on a pistol I would look at it with disgust every time I opened the safe. I like having the stock the rifle was intended to have not some abomination. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:51:20 PM EDT
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To cut a 16" barrel down to 14.5, no. IMO, for certain firearms like MP5s, Scorpion EVO, AKSU-74, etc. yes it is definitely worth it.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:51:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
MP5K- SBtactical SBT5K MPX- SBtactical MPX PSB Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hey OP, what kind of braces are these? http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h151/JAD762/braces_zpso9imbb8j.jpg MPX- SBtactical MPX PSB |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:53:05 PM EDT
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Lol, not having to play fuck fuck games with a gov agency who changes their opinion at the drop of a hat (and whose opinion doesn't align with written law) is WELL worth paying $200.
The rest of you who don't care? Have fun with the above. Also have fun if they want to make a case study out of you. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:56:48 PM EDT
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For me it's not about the stamp so much as it's about the pain in the ass with travel, trusts, man in my life, etc. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 3:57:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
SBR is enshrined in law. Braces are a capricious decision by ATF. In 5 years, the ATF could completely reverse itself and decide they are actually SBRs. |
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