[ARCHIVED THREAD] - GD union dichotomy (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/4/2017 2:54:12 PM EDT
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As a whole, ARFCcom GD dislikes labor unions.
I have seen in many many union threads where some people, in right to work states, don't join the union. As a whole, ARFcom GD calls these people FSA for accepting union negotiated pay, time, breaks, etc, but not paying. Explain how that works. "I dont like this and want it to go away" "you should support this" |
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As a whole, ARFCcom GD dislikes labor unions. I have seen in many many union threads where some people, in right to work states, don't join the union. As a whole, ARFcom GD calls these people FSA for accepting union negotiated pay, time, breaks, etc, but not paying. Explain how that works. "I dont like this and want it to go away" "you should support this" I'm not pro-union as in the existence of labor unions, but labor unions are part of America and workers who are in unions are just trying to bring home money, pay bills, and take care of their family. There are tons of pro-union examples and tons of anti-union examples. This thread just resurrects the same pro and anti arguments. |
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the hilarity is that GD does not understand there is a difference between Labor Unions and Trade Unions.
When somebody starts talking about one, and a fight breaks out by someone who thinks they are talking about the other, it's even more fun than a pension thread! |
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the hilarity is that GD does not understand there is a difference between Labor Unions and Trade Unions. When somebody starts talking about one, and a fight breaks out by someone who thinks they are talking about the other, it's even more fun than a pension thread! |
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I went to work in an union shop in a right to work state. I didn't join. I had had a successful career in the private sector and am confident in my abilities. I don't need "protection".
From what I have seen; the union does nothing for it's productive members and everything for it's worthless members. It appears they do everything they can to cost their company as much as possible for as little productivity as possible. I don't get it. In a few short years I have been promoted to management and no longer have the union's "protection". I have made it my goal to fire as many union slugs as possible. |
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the hilarity is that GD does not understand there is a difference between Labor Unions and Trade Unions. When somebody starts talking about one, and a fight breaks out by someone who thinks they are talking about the other, it's even more fun than a pension thread! |
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Unions suck unless your a locked in longshoremen. Then u got it made! I never like going from job to job, I settle for a welding job at a steady non union shop for $23 an hour. Less ghan union but I was there for 6.5 years until I moved on.
My step dad was a pitboss longshoremen in the maintenence dept. He made bank and still has awesome benefits! Some unions are good, some are worthless. Ive seen broke dick lazy certain types of folks on union labor jobs that were a waste of space! |
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I have no problems with private sector unions. If the company screws up negotiations and gives up too much they fail and jobs are lost.
Public sector unions need to be outlawed. Far too long it's been an arm of liberal politics. Want the public unions voting for you? Give them more retirement benefits, more paid time off or a bigger raise. |
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I have no problems with private sector unions. If the company screws up negotiations and gives up too much they fail and jobs are lost. Public sector unions need to be outlawed. Far too long it's been an arm of liberal politics. Want the public unions voting for you? Give them more retirement benefits, more paid time off or a bigger raise. |
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I have no problems with private sector unions. If the company screws up negotiations and gives up too much they fail and jobs are lost. Public sector unions need to be outlawed. Far too long it's been an arm of liberal politics. Want the public unions voting for you? Give them more retirement benefits, more paid time off or a bigger raise. 
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So, go ahead and tell us what to think. Which one is the good one? Quoted:
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the hilarity is that GD does not understand there is a difference between Labor Unions and Trade Unions. When somebody starts talking about one, and a fight breaks out by someone who thinks they are talking about the other, it's even more fun than a pension thread! 1. Where did I tell you what to think? Where did I pick a side? All I did was point out that ignorance abounds in these threads. You proved my point. 2. Labor unions and trade unions are two different animals. If you don't know that, consider yourself enlightened now. If you don't know the difference, well, you have internet access, do your homework. 3. Why do you assume I say either is a good one or bad one? Where did I pick a side? Do not put fucking words in my mouth that clearly are not there. Finally, you prove my point about how watching these threads is like watching the ignorant engage in 'tard jousting. Go back to not posting, it is healthier for you. |
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Unions by and large support anti-gun politicians through their influence and money. That means they are anti-American and my enemy. I support any means to bring about their extinction. |
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I went to work in an union shop in a right to work state. I didn't join. I had had a successful career in the private sector and am confident in my abilities. I don't need "protection". From what I have seen; the union does nothing for it's productive members and everything for it's worthless members. It appears they do everything they can to cost their company as much as possible for as little productivity as possible. I don't get it. In a few short years I have been promoted to management and no longer have the union's "protection". I have made it my goal to fire as many union slugs as possible. |
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I have no problems with private sector unions. If the company screws up negotiations and gives up too much they fail and jobs are lost. Public sector unions need to be outlawed. Far too long it's been an arm of liberal politics. Want the public unions voting for you? Give them more retirement benefits, more paid time off or a bigger raise. |
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The 160 union employees in my city of 25,000 really rock the vote! Quoted:
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I have no problems with private sector unions. If the company screws up negotiations and gives up too much they fail and jobs are lost. Public sector unions need to be outlawed. Far too long it's been an arm of liberal politics. Want the public unions voting for you? Give them more retirement benefits, more paid time off or a bigger raise. |
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What company? You sound like a Democrat. Quoted:
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I went to work in an union shop in a right to work state. I didn't join. I had had a successful career in the private sector and am confident in my abilities. I don't need "protection". From what I have seen; the union does nothing for it's productive members and everything for it's worthless members. It appears they do everything they can to cost their company as much as possible for as little productivity as possible. I don't get it. In a few short years I have been promoted to management and no longer have the union's "protection". I have made it my goal to fire as many union slugs as possible. In what way do I sound like Dem? |
| Ive worked both . I saw very little difference between union and non in people working and doing there job. Good folks and sorry folks. Yeah union kept a few worthless folks there job longer. And non union places kept some people there job even though they was worthless by who they knew or there daddy was a manager. Most that went from labor to managers was ass kisser and dick suckers . And to the guy that claims he all about getting union people fired.. In my union shop I saw a lot more managers fired than union workers. It was just easier to fire them retarded slug managers . |
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Worked in multiple non, one mixed, and one full union shop.
No problems from any. The full union shop, needed it. The boss there was a complete assholes and worthless POS. We were all good employees. The mixed shop was only mixed when the field guys had to come in and do shop work because of layoff, the company didn't want them to go find other work. The non shops all have better pay and benefits. Thankfully I haven't ran into garbage management types at these jobs yet (I'm currently right to work). FWIW I'm a welder and the unions were sheet metal workers and pipefitters. At the end of the day, it doesn't make much difference if everyone does their job correctly and isn't an asshole. |
| Fuck unions. Fuck the money they lobby with, fuck the worthless people they keep employed just so they can fill their contract. And fuck government funded jobs that require union labor(again, fuck the lobbying). Unions are just a welfare check for some. Clean the unions up. |
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I went to work in an union shop in a right to work state. I didn't join. I had had a successful career in the private sector and am confident in my abilities. I don't need "protection". From what I have seen; the union does nothing for it's productive members and everything for it's worthless members. It appears they do everything they can to cost their company as much as possible for as little productivity as possible. I don't get it. In a few short years I have been promoted to management and no longer have the union's "protection". I have made it my goal to fire as many union slugs as possible. |
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the hilarity is that GD does not understand there is a difference between Labor Unions and Trade Unions. When somebody starts talking about one, and a fight breaks out by someone who thinks they are talking about the other, it's even more fun than a pension thread! How are they different? |
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the hilarity is that GD does not understand there is a difference between Labor Unions and Trade Unions. When somebody starts talking about one, and a fight breaks out by someone who thinks they are talking about the other, it's even more fun than a pension thread! |
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I'm sure those union slugs' lawyers would love to get ahold of this post after you fire them. Don't get me wrong, I would never issue discipline without just cause. There just happens to be a lot of cause around here. Management are all former union slugs and it is a lot easier to let the staff run rampant than to do your job. A lot of my guys are awesome. They work their asses off. But what am I supposed to tell them when the biggest fuck off in the shop, that has been walked off three other times, comes back to work after being off on paid leave for months? Sorry, a typo saved his job. Well no one ever told him he can't whack it on the clock. Oh that's right, I can't tell them shit because it might hurt the little snowflake's feels. Get back to work. I know we've been mandating overtime but we've been short a guy. |
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What company? You sound like a Democrat. Quoted:
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I went to work in an union shop in a right to work state. I didn't join. I had had a successful career in the private sector and am confident in my abilities. I don't need "protection". From what I have seen; the union does nothing for it's productive members and everything for it's worthless members. It appears they do everything they can to cost their company as much as possible for as little productivity as possible. I don't get it. In a few short years I have been promoted to management and no longer have the union's "protection". I have made it my goal to fire as many union slugs as possible. 
At my work we just laugh at gung ho guys like him as they only last a year or so until upper management gets sick of them causing problems. |
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Private unions are one thing.
Public employee unions are another, entirely. These groups of richly-compenstated taxeaters conspire with their politician collaborators to pillage the taxpayer. Meanwhile the taxpayer (the source of revenue) is excluded from the bargaining table, the economic enslavement and ultimate bankruptcy of whom is little concern to the taxeaters. |
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Public employee unions are another, entirely. These groups of richly-compenstated taxeaters conspire with their politician collaborators to pillage the taxpayer. Meanwhile the taxpayer (the source of revenue) is excluded from the bargaining table, the economic enslavement and ultimate bankruptcy of whom is little concern to the taxeaters. 
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As a whole, ARFCcom GD dislikes labor unions. I have seen in many many union threads where some people, in right to work states, don't join the union. As a whole, ARFcom GD calls these people FSA for accepting union negotiated pay, time, breaks, etc, but not paying. Explain how that works. "I dont like this and want it to go away" "you should support this" Are you sure it's the anti-union faction calling people FSA? There are union supporters here as well. |
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Unions often encourage mediocrity by not encouraging the hardest workers and by protecting the laziest. |
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Private unions are one thing. Public employee unions are another, entirely. These groups of richly-compenstated taxeaters conspire with their politician collaborators to pillage the taxpayer. Meanwhile the taxpayer (the source of revenue) is excluded from the bargaining table, the economic enslavement and ultimate bankruptcy of whom is little concern to the taxeaters. |
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thats subjective on what union your in though. its not unilaterally accepted. for instance my shop did not back the last three turds we tossed (off probation, and within reach of retirement) only thing the board did was ensure they had a fair separation process. |
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Who elects the politician? Quoted:
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Public employee unions are another, entirely. These groups of richly-compenstated taxeaters conspire with their politician collaborators to pillage the taxpayer. Meanwhile the taxpayer (the source of revenue) is excluded from the bargaining table, the economic enslavement and ultimate bankruptcy of whom is little concern to the taxeaters. |
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My internet searching is showing me that labor and trade unions are functionally the same thing. How are they different? |
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ironically, these are the ones that get the angriest b/c they couldn't get hired.. Quoted:
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Public employee unions are another, entirely. These groups of richly-compenstated taxeaters conspire with their politician collaborators to pillage the taxpayer. Meanwhile the taxpayer (the source of revenue) is excluded from the bargaining table, the economic enslavement and ultimate bankruptcy of whom is little concern to the taxeaters. |
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the hilarity is that GD does not understand there is a difference between Labor Unions and Trade Unions. When somebody starts talking about one, and a fight breaks out by someone who thinks they are talking about the other, it's even more fun than a pension thread! |
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It's the exact opposite in the area of NY where my friends in trade unions work. Quoted:
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The non shops all have better pay and benefits. |
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He sounds like a dick to me.
At my work we just laugh at gung ho guys like him as they only last a year or so until upper management gets sick of them causing problems. 
You can laugh at my gung ho ass if you like. I'll have no problem finding another job when I'm fired for working hard and protecting the company's interests. 
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