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5/15/2017 5:07:41 PM EDT
On my way home earlier going southbound 35, just passed downtown Austin. At that point I still have about 7 miles until my exit, for some reason traffic gets real shitty south of downtown. As I'm coming up to the clusterfuck of idiots who can't properly merge onto a highway (which is half of this city apparently), this guy in a shit box with just about every panel a different color decides to merge pretty much right in front of me from a dead stop. Naturally I'm going about 40-50 since this is a highway so after some hard braking, cussing, horn usage and the finger this motherfucker puts his car in park and decides he's going to get out of it and start walking towards me.

On a side note something like this happened to me when I was around 18-19, I drove a convertible foxbody at the time and had the top down so I don't take chances when it comes to shit like this.

Anyway so as soon as I see him open his door I reach over to my glove box for my g43 (usually its a g26 with a 17 spare but I switch it up when I ride my bike and don't always swap back right away). He must have known what was up as soon as he saw me reach over because after some shit talking he got back in his car and drove off. I kept behind him since we were in the right lane and my exit was coming up. Meanwhile he kept motioning out his window for me to follow him. He ended up taking the same exit as me and when he pulled into the gas station I just kept going. My only thought at that point was to make sure he didn't follow me home.

In hindsight, if this guy would have been more serious about starting some shit I would have been at a serious disadvantage. Although I was pretty quick reaching over, by the time I opened the glove box and dumbly felt around for my pistol it had taken entirely too long. After nearly 32yrs here I'll be moving to rural Tx in a couple months, I can't fucking wait.

TLDR: Austin drivers fucking suck, some of them are actually psychotic. I'm moving out of this fucking city soon.
5/15/2017 5:15:18 PM EDT
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Yup.
Generally lots of drivers really suck and believe everyone else is at fault regardless. My CZ75 sits close at hand when I have to do any city driving anymore - aggressive, ignorant, entitled drivers thinking they own the road and willing to push things too far over it.
5/15/2017 5:16:03 PM EDT
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Austin is a horrible place to drive.

I have a theory that it's because the town draws a certain type into moving here: the self-absorbed, immature idiot/asshole who just wants to party. It really shows in the way they drive.
5/15/2017 5:19:45 PM EDT
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Generally lots of drivers really suck and believe everyone else is at fault regardless. My CZ75 sits close at hand when I have to do any city driving anymore - aggressive, ignorant, entitled drivers thinking they own the road and willing to push things too far over it.
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Yup.
Generally lots of drivers really suck and believe everyone else is at fault regardless. My CZ75 sits close at hand when I have to do any city driving anymore - aggressive, ignorant, entitled drivers thinking they own the road and willing to push things too far over it.
I usually stick it between my seat and the center console. Technically I think it's supposed to be out of sight here but as I found out today, that's not really feasible if you need it quickly. My center console is basically just an armrest theres no real compartment.

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Austin is a horrible place to drive.

I have a theory that it's because the town draws a certain type into moving here: the self-absorbed, immature idiot/asshole who just wants to party. It really shows in the way they drive.
I hear ya, that wasn't the case with this guy though. Let's just say he was probably from the East side.
5/15/2017 5:23:25 PM EDT
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Do not flip people off if you want it to be a good shoot.  Re-read your Texas handgun license law again and you will understand what I mean.

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5/15/2017 5:38:51 PM EDT
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Do not flip people off if you want it to be a good shoot.  Re-read your Texas handgun license law again and you will understand what I mean.

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You make a good point but damn if that isn't hard to do. I guess after years of getting in little road altercations where you each talk your shit through the window at the other person and continue on with your lives you just don't expect it to ever escalate. Especially riding a motorcycle in this city, I'm probably flipping the bird multiple times a day when I ride.

My car is way to nice and parts are way to hard to find (and expensive) to be doing pit maneuvers.
5/15/2017 5:53:31 PM EDT
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I ignore idiots on the road.  It has a way of defusing things.  I'll save any response for when I know my life is in danger.  That does not include danger from their driving.
5/15/2017 6:38:16 PM EDT
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On my way home earlier going southbound 35, just passed downtown Austin. At that point I still have about 7 miles until my exit, for some reason traffic gets real shitty south of downtown. As I'm coming up to the clusterfuck of idiots who can't properly merge onto a highway (which is half of this city apparently), this guy in a shit box with just about every panel a different color decides to merge pretty much right in front of me from a dead stop. Naturally I'm going about 40-50 since this is a highway so after some hard braking, cussing, horn usage and the finger this motherfucker puts his car in park and decides he's going to get out of it and start walking towards me.

On a side note something like this happened to me when I was around 18-19, I drove a convertible foxbody at the time and had the top down so I don't take chances when it comes to shit like this.

Anyway so as soon as I see him open his door I reach over to my glove box for my g43 (usually its a g26 with a 17 spare but I switch it up when I ride my bike and don't always swap back right away). He must have known what was up as soon as he saw me reach over because after some shit talking he got back in his car and drove off. I kept behind him since we were in the right lane and my exit was coming up. Meanwhile he kept motioning out his window for me to follow him. He ended up taking the same exit as me and when he pulled into the gas station I just kept going. My only thought at that point was to make sure he didn't follow me home.

In hindsight, if this guy would have been more serious about starting some shit I would have been at a serious disadvantage. Although I was pretty quick reaching over, by the time I opened the glove box and dumbly felt around for my pistol it had taken entirely too long. After nearly 32yrs here I'll be moving to rural Tx in a couple months, I can't fucking wait.

TLDR: Austin drivers fucking suck, some of them are actually psychotic. I'm moving out of this fucking city soon.
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Sounds like you have anger issues...

5/15/2017 6:51:24 PM EDT
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The worse part when dealing with people like that you dont know if they just killed their wife and kids or not. Some people truly have nothing else to lose. I usually just laugh it off anymore and keep going when Im not in my marked patrol car.

Life is too short to get into something that will alter the rest of your days over something so small.
5/15/2017 6:51:51 PM EDT
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Sounds like you didn't do much defensive driving with the honking and flipping the bird.
5/15/2017 6:58:43 PM EDT
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I would be a liar if I said otherwise. You would have to live here to understand how awful people drive here. I probably embellished my reaction a bit too.
5/15/2017 7:00:08 PM EDT
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I would be a liar if I said otherwise. You would have to live here to understand how awful people drive around here.
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Sounds like you have anger issues...

I would be a liar if I said otherwise. You would have to live here to understand how awful people drive around here.
Regardless, if you instigate shit and then end up shooting the guy, you are going to have a bad time.
5/15/2017 7:06:35 PM EDT
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While I didn't experience road rage in TX,  putting on your turn signal apparently means speed up and cut me off.  Every time.  You just have to cut off everyone anytime you want to change lanes and hope they brake in time.  Really annoying Drivers.
5/15/2017 7:10:31 PM EDT
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In before the parody thread: "I was driving home and when I merged onto the highway some guy started tailgating me, flipping me off, and raging."
5/15/2017 7:12:15 PM EDT
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 Some jobs are better handled by a professional..... ie take a  TAXI next time you are feeling a little on edge.
5/15/2017 7:51:25 PM EDT
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If someone does something stupid to jeopardize my safety I'm going to let them know they are a fucking idiot, If that means I'm raging so be it. If that person decides to step out of their car on a major US highway during heavy traffic to try and further threaten me that is their decision not mine. Maybe I'm on edge when I drive because I value my life and its easy to lose when people don't pay attention.
5/15/2017 8:47:29 PM EDT
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  If you  really want to  cut down on the number and severity of your interactions with fellow motorists, please study, deconstruct, and ponder  this quote from your second post in this thread:

 "I guess after years of getting in little road altercations where you each talk your shit through the window at the other person and continue on with your lives you just don't expect it to ever escalate."
5/15/2017 8:53:56 PM EDT
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I used to drive in Boston.
And I mentioned to my brother how aggressive the drivers are and how difficult a basic morning commute could be. And his response was I live in Atlanta and our traffic is the worst... until he flew up to visit, rented a car and nearly had a nervous breakdown just trying to drive from the airport (Logan).
Honestly I thought New York City drivers were courteous and polite compared to Boston drivers. But they don't call them "massholes" for no reason.
5/15/2017 8:58:31 PM EDT
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This is exactly why I keep my numb chunks handy at all times. Keep a spare set u set the dash too.
5/15/2017 9:00:24 PM EDT
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Sounds like you have anger issues...

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On my way home earlier going southbound 35, just passed downtown Austin. At that point I still have about 7 miles until my exit, for some reason traffic gets real shitty south of downtown. As I'm coming up to the clusterfuck of idiots who can't properly merge onto a highway (which is half of this city apparently), this guy in a shit box with just about every panel a different color decides to merge pretty much right in front of me from a dead stop. Naturally I'm going about 40-50 since this is a highway so after some hard braking, cussing, horn usage and the finger this motherfucker puts his car in park and decides he's going to get out of it and start walking towards me.

On a side note something like this happened to me when I was around 18-19, I drove a convertible foxbody at the time and had the top down so I don't take chances when it comes to shit like this.

Anyway so as soon as I see him open his door I reach over to my glove box for my g43 (usually its a g26 with a 17 spare but I switch it up when I ride my bike and don't always swap back right away). He must have known what was up as soon as he saw me reach over because after some shit talking he got back in his car and drove off. I kept behind him since we were in the right lane and my exit was coming up. Meanwhile he kept motioning out his window for me to follow him. He ended up taking the same exit as me and when he pulled into the gas station I just kept going. My only thought at that point was to make sure he didn't follow me home.

In hindsight, if this guy would have been more serious about starting some shit I would have been at a serious disadvantage. Although I was pretty quick reaching over, by the time I opened the glove box and dumbly felt around for my pistol it had taken entirely too long. After nearly 32yrs here I'll be moving to rural Tx in a couple months, I can't fucking wait.

TLDR: Austin drivers fucking suck, some of them are actually psychotic. I'm moving out of this fucking city soon.



Sounds like you have anger issues...

Yep big time.
5/15/2017 9:02:38 PM EDT
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If someone does something stupid to jeopardize my safety I'm going to let them know they are a fucking idiot, If that means I'm raging so be it. If that person decides to step out of their car on a major US highway during heavy traffic to try and further threaten me that is their decision not mine. Maybe I'm on edge when I drive because I value my life and its easy to lose when people don't pay attention.
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Perhaps you should reconsider carrying a firearm.
5/15/2017 9:17:02 PM EDT
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If someone does something stupid to jeopardize my safety I'm going to let them know they are a fucking idiot, If that means I'm raging so be it. If that person decides to step out of their car on a major US highway during heavy traffic to try and further threaten me that is their decision not mine. Maybe I'm on edge when I drive because I value my life and its easy to lose when people don't pay attention.
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Itching for a shootout on the highway because you feel like making a mountain out of a molehill is putting your life at far more risk than the traffic situation you described. There's slowpoke drivers everywhere and it's just not worth raging over.
5/15/2017 9:20:43 PM EDT
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I don't really see it as itching, I see it as if someone is crazy enough to jump out of their car on the highway then I have no idea what they are going to do and I'd rather have a gun handy in case they are truly crazy. People honk all the time, It's not like I was hanging out my window talking shit to the guy. I pretty much just stuck my middle finger up at him from my steering wheel to make sure he knew how I felt. As in my earlier statement about talking shit to eachother that was a generalized statement about people who get in road altercations, I didn't mean myself I thought that would have been obvious they way I phrased it, I guess not. I go to work at 3:30am so theres nobody on the road and when I leave work it's usually not a whole lot of traffic either so this is not a normal circumstance for me. From ya'lls description of me I guess I need to get a therapist, disable my horn and just be oblivious to it all..
5/15/2017 9:26:30 PM EDT
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I don't really see it as itching, I see it as if someone is crazy enough to jump out of their car on the highway then I have no idea what they are going to do and I'd rather have a gun handy in case they are truly crazy. People honk all the time, It's not like I was hanging out my window talking shit to the guy. I pretty much just stuck my middle finger up at him from my steering wheel to make sure he knew how I felt. As in my earlier statement about talking shit to eachother that was a generalized statement about people who get in road altercations, I didn't mean myself I thought that would have been obvious they way I phrased it, I guess not. I go to work at 3:30am so theres nobody on the road and when I leave work it's usually not a whole lot of traffic either so this is not a normal circumstance for me. From ya'lls description of me I guess I need to get a therapist, disable my horn and just be oblivious to it all..
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I see it like this.

Fuckhead cut you off, instead of driving defensively you got aggressive and the situation escalated, you admitted to yelling and honking at him also.

People are idiots, by contributing you aren't helping the situation.

Do better.
5/15/2017 9:28:57 PM EDT
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You make a good point but damn if that isn't hard to do. I guess after years of getting in little road altercations where you each talk your shit through the window at the other person and continue on with your lives you just don't expect it to ever escalate. Especially riding a motorcycle in this city, I'm probably flipping the bird multiple times a day when I ride.

My car is way to nice and parts are way to hard to find (and expensive) to be doing pit maneuvers.
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I hear you but some days I just really feel like Matt Kenseth-ing someone.
5/15/2017 9:34:51 PM EDT
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I see it like this.

Fuckhead cut you off, instead of driving defensively you got aggressive and the situation escalated, you admitted to yelling and honking at him also.

People are idiots, by contributing you aren't helping the situation.

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If I had been on my bike that could have been pretty bad having to stop that quickly. It wasn't just "oh, he cut me off" like he just switched lanes in front of me. That doesn't mean I'm trying to defend my actions but when you deal with this same shit day in and out it gets old. I can't take the bike out in this city anymore without some asshole merging into me, pulling out in front of me or just plain not looking for me (I'm aware that it probably happens to many other riders as well). A good friend of mine lost his wife last year to someone not paying attention.
5/15/2017 9:35:29 PM EDT
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A couple months ago I observed an amusing pissing content between a guy with a beater Ford Explorer and another guy with a new Bentley SUV.  Looked up the SUV later, base price is north of $200k.

I was in the left lane the entire time.  Explorer was in the center lane.  The Bentley dude was all over the place, constantly changing lanes to try and get ahead of traffic.  He swerved into the center lane when there just wasn't any room, so the Explorer guy slammed onto his brakes and horn to avoid the Bentley.  Bentley dude came to a complete stop in the center lane... brilliant.  My lane kept going, figured that was that.

Maybe a mile later, I see the Bentley zooming up in the right line like a fool again.  I see the Explorer is behind me.  Bentley guy gets into the center lane and starts swerving at the Explorer like he was acting like he was going to ram the Explorer..lol.  Bentley douche does this a few times, then stomps the gas to get ahead and cut off the Explorer.

But he was a tard and misjudged it.  His cut off attempt resulted in him ramming the quarter panel of his $200k+ SUV into the fender of a total shitbox...lol  The both pulled over.  I'm sure they had a friendly chat on the side of the road  I was tempted to just go ahead and call the cops as I drove away... but decided to MMOB.
5/15/2017 9:42:02 PM EDT
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There's no shortage of it during my daily commutes, it's why I have a dash cam.
5/15/2017 9:47:18 PM EDT
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I've been meaning to setup a gopro on my helmet or something for some time now. My roommate had one of Alex Jones dash cam (yes I know), I don't know if they were all this shitty but as soon as you stopped and turned the vehicle off and back on it wrote over the previous video automatically. Plus I don't remember it being able to record for very long.
5/15/2017 9:51:20 PM EDT
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When armed I'm much more likely to let stuff like that slide. Having to use it is an absolute last resort that is going to complicate your life in ways you can't imagine. Sadly, someone being an asshole isn't an offense that warrants capital punishment.
5/15/2017 9:55:41 PM EDT
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I've been meaning to get one of those.  I don't think a week goes by where I don't have a near accident that would just be my word against theirs.  Ahhh... the joys of driving 40 miles a day into DC.
5/15/2017 9:56:53 PM EDT
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I don't really see it as itching, I see it as if someone is crazy enough to jump out of their car on the highway then I have no idea what they are going to do and I'd rather have a gun handy in case they are truly crazy. People honk all the time, It's not like I was hanging out my window talking shit to the guy. I pretty much just stuck my middle finger up at him from my steering wheel to make sure he knew how I felt. As in my earlier statement about talking shit to eachother that was a generalized statement about people who get in road altercations, I didn't mean myself I thought that would have been obvious they way I phrased it, I guess not. I go to work at 3:30am so theres nobody on the road and when I leave work it's usually not a whole lot of traffic either so this is not a normal circumstance for me. From ya'lls description of me I guess I need to get a therapist, disable my horn and just be oblivious to it all..
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Do you have this same face to face interaction with someone standing ahead of you in line that is taking a little to long to place their order?  Yes, you typically get away with it on the road because everyone has somewhere they need to be.  Keep this behavior up and you will eventually encounter someone that is at there wits end with life and really don't give a fuck.  You will be culpable for the aftermath, whether you live, die or other.
5/15/2017 9:59:12 PM EDT
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Its everywhere now, man. People are fucking assholes. Worst part of my day is the commute to work. Most of it is on rural roads and I still see crazy shit every single day.

I ignore what I can and curse a lot under my breath (this, I've found, actually helps). I never give anybody the finger or do anything to escalate things.

I've found its best to speak softly and carry a big stick.

I'm not about to start any shit and go to the utmost to avoid any trouble but if trouble somehow manages to find me, I am always prepared to make trouble wish it had picked someone else.
5/15/2017 10:04:10 PM EDT
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Do you have this same face to face interaction with someone standing ahead of you in line that is taking a little to long to place their order?  Yes, you typically get away with it on the road because everyone has somewhere they need to be.  Keep this behavior up and you will eventually encounter someone that is at there wits end with life and really don't give a fuck.  You will be culpable for the aftermath, whether you live, die or other.
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5/15/2017 10:04:56 PM EDT
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Yup.
Generally lots of drivers really suck and believe everyone else is at fault regardless. My CZ75 sits close at hand when I have to do any city driving anymore - aggressive, ignorant, entitled drivers thinking they own the road and willing to push things too far over it.
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That is the truth right there. I've had people do some stupid shit around me and then flip me off for having to slam on my brakes to keep from annihilating them...  I usually just shake my head and keep plugging along. Usually
5/15/2017 10:14:16 PM EDT
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In this thread we see who's going to prison one day.
5/15/2017 10:15:10 PM EDT
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Its everywhere now, man. People are fucking assholes. Worst part of my day is the commute to work. Most of it is on rural roads and I still see crazy shit every single day.

I ignore what I can and curse a lot under my breath (this, I've found, actually helps). I never give anybody the finger or do anything to escalate things.

I've found its best to speak softly and carry a big stick.

I'm not about to start any shit and go to the utmost to avoid any trouble but if trouble somehow manages to find me, I am always prepared to make trouble wish it had picked someone else.
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Well said.

I grew up in the city so road altercations are everywhere, I always just assumed it was part of driving. Maybe that's where I got the habit of showing my displeasure to certain drivers (my dad certainly didn't help as he was always getting into them as well, granted he drove for a living). I agree it's certainly something I could probably improve on. I still have to commute here everyday for work but maybe being able to retreat out of the city at the end of the day will help.
5/15/2017 10:19:29 PM EDT
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I certainly reached for it to have it near me but it would have taken more than him just walking up to me for me to put it to use. Although anyone who can get out and walk around while cars are flying past them on a highway certainly should be perceived to be off his fucking rocker.