[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Body building question. (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 5/15/2017 8:42:47 AM EDT
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What are the best mass building supplements? I have been trying to build a little more mass but I am having trouble weight and reps keep going up, haven't hit plateau.
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whatever you do, stay far clear from creatine bro. have a look at this instructive tale of woe:
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Food and consistency. No supplements really do much. Creatine is the only thing proven to have any benefit. I like pre workouts for the energy boost and a little whey protein just to fill voids. Beyond that its just a market full of bs. |
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Food and consistency. No supplements really do much. Creatine is the only thing proven to have any benefit. I like pre workouts for the energy boost and a little whey protein just to fill voids. Beyond that its just a market full of bs. OP, "Supplements" are just that. They are meant to supplement the diet. Proteins are proven to build muscle. Don't forget your vitamin A if you start pounding the Protein. As far the rest, it takes time and a whole lot of $ to find what you think works and see results..IF it were me, starting over or starting, I would get into the habitual routines of hitting the weight pile and then inserting the supplements... Been lifting a long, long, time..All I take are protein, vitamin A and an occasional pre for certain days (legs). Oh..Don't be a pussy when it comes to legs, hit them often and hard, will help with nat levels of testosterone. |
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What are the best mass building supplements? I have been trying to build a little more mass but I am having trouble weight and reps keep going up, haven't hit plateau. -> Aside from anabolic steroids obviously. The correct answer to your question is more food. But I'd be more concerned about expectations. How long have you been training? A lot of beginners see strength gains in the gym without proportional "muscle" gains simply because they get better at lifting and recruiting muscle fibers for lifts. To a certain extent you need to push through the "beginner gains" before you can expect significant hypertrophy response. Also, you don't mention what program you are running. Are you running something that is anchored with squats and deadlifts? |
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Rest and nutrition. Seriously.
Make sure your giving your muscles enough time to recover between work out days, and try to eat four or five times a day. I think most people need to supplement with some whey protein in addition to eating well. IIRC, you should be getting 1 to 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day for body building. So a 175 pound guy would need 175 to 260 grams of protein a day. Given that a single chicken breast has something like 40g of protein, a similar sized piece of beef has 30g, and an egg has 6g, supplementing with a protein powder makes life easier. Also if you're plateauing, change up your work out by changing your compound movement exercises. i.e., do decline and incline dumbbell presses instead of bench presses, bent rows or pull ups instead of lat pull downs, barbell curls (in the squat rack, of course  ) instead of preacher curls, etc.
ETA: Squats. Do squats. It engages 60% of your body's muscle mass. Your body's response, the one that causes muscle growth, will be triggered much more intensely by that than anything else. Since the components that build muscle aren't sent in a targeted fashion to just the muscles that you work out, they're sent body wide through your blood stream, do squats. 
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"Supplements" are just that. They are meant to supplement the diet. Proteins are proven to build muscle. Don't forget your vitamin A if you start pounding the Protein.
This is not something I am familiar with. I have heard about B-6 and protein but Vitamin A is new to me. Would you give me a quick lesson on why? Serious question, I'm not being a smart ass. Thanks |
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Here's a breakdown of bodybuilding results
<----------------------------------------TOTAL RESULTS-----------------------------------------> <-------------------------------Food and hard work---------------------------------><-supps-> It's not even to scale. The supplements account for an even smaller proportion of the end result. I just couldn't make that sections smaller than 5 letters. |
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Why would you post in GD about bodybuilding and supplements ? You know we have a fitness forum for this ? right ? 99% of GD never exercises. Please go there and ask your questions. |
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Test enthanate, proviron, deca, a bit of winstrol, and some nolva for da' bitch tits. Wait, wut? Exercise and lift weights for strength and conditioning, eat right and be happy with what you have. In 20 years you'll be wishing you had saved the money you spent and be trying hard to squeeze in 2-3 hours per week of exercise... if you exercise at all. |
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so I'm guessing that I am not eating enough according to your post. my workout routine consist of power lift, dead lift, flat bench, decline bench, incline bench....... muscle ups, EZ curl, Preacher curl and hammer curls. When I was really into it, I was on a 3 day split with one rest day, and eating like crazy. Got stronger, but no mass gains. I added a rest day between each workout day, and put on 20 pounds in one summer. Rest is just as important as nutrition. Also, do squats. |
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so I'm guessing that I am not eating enough according to your post. my workout routine consist of power lift, dead lift, flat bench, decline bench, incline bench....... muscle ups, EZ curl, Preacher curl and hammer curls. Edit: Like super bad. No squats, no compound pulling, 3 bench variations? Go over to /r/fitness and check out the wiki for a list of good routines. |
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Why does it matter? GENERAL discussion is for ANY topic. Why do people post questions about guns in GENERAL Discussion when there are gun forums? Why do people post pics of their animals in GENERAL Discussion when there is a forum for pets? Why do people post pictures and ask questions about cooking in GENERAL Discussion when there is a cooking forum? It's GENERAL Discussion so anything goes. |
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so I'm guessing that I am not eating enough according to your post. my workout routine consist of power lift, dead lift, flat bench, decline bench, incline bench....... muscle ups, EZ curl, Preacher curl and hammer curls. Got to get some back, trap & legs work in there.. There's better guys than me that can give you a routine |
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First thing to do would be to download MyFitnessPal, get an idea of how many calories/macros you are taking in daily. Don't cheat it and fudge the numbers.
If you aren't growing, increase calorie intake and adjust Macros accordingly. There is also Protein shakes out there help with putting more mass on with more calories per scoop. You can bulk dirty if you want (eating junk food etc etc) But a healthy bulk by eating healthy carbs/fat and steady protein uptake. Eating "more" is hard at first, so i started eating peanut butter at the end of the day on the bottom of my cut to help increase calories. There is no "secret" industry additional supplement other than Creatine, 5g a day other than anabolic roids. If you aren't advancing in your current program, may be time to re-structure program. Set goals and be strict with program/diet and you too can be a sexual tyrannosaurs, just like me. Edit: Just saw program, need to include three core compounds Bench, DL, and Squat and maybe read starting strength get you on course. |
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As other posters have said: Food. And lots of it. Eating correctly takes much more effort than lifting. I find it very easy to go to the gym several times a week. I find it very hard to force myself to eat enough calories to make any mass gains. I'm getting stronger and feel much better, but I'm not gaining any weight. |
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You didn't read what I wrote- did you. Why would you ask the GD forum where most if not all do not even lift ? Now that's a good question ? What say you ? When we have a forum for this very subject ? Quoted:
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Why does it matter? GENERAL discussion is for ANY topic. Why do people post questions about guns in GENERAL Discussion when there are gun forums? Why do people post pics of their animals in GENERAL Discussion when there is a forum for pets? Why do people post pictures and ask questions about cooking in GENERAL Discussion when there is a cooking forum? It's GENERAL Discussion so anything goes. 
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What are the best mass building supplements? I have been trying to build a little more mass but I am having trouble weight and reps keep going up, haven't hit plateau. -> Aside from anabolic steroids obviously. Methyltestosterone is what you want. Be sure to take max dosage. . |
