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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:02:48 PM EDT
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"Semen all over the sideline."
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:12:24 PM EDT
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I think Detroit is going to win this one.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:30:49 PM EDT
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The Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but at least they didn't look like a steaming pile of dog shit like the giants did tonight.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:35:14 PM EDT
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The Giants look like a team 2 weeks in a row that can’t even play basic fundamental football. 1TD in 120 minutes and had to settle for a FG from a 1st and goal on the 1yd line
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:39:01 PM EDT
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The Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but at least they didn't look like a steaming pile of dog shit like the giants did tonight. 
The giants definitely stunk it up tonight, but the Cowboys got worked over and had their spirits broken to the tune of 42 points by Trevin friggin Siemian. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:43:06 PM EDT
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Lot of talking heads picking up on LT's comment that Zeke quit on the Cowboys (literally & figuratively). I can't find the video of the Chris Harris INT where Zeke didn't try for a tackle. Can anybody find it? |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:51:42 PM EDT
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More "objectivity" from cowboys fans.
The giants definitely stunk it up tonight, but the Cowboys got worked over and had their spirits broken to the tune of 42 points by Trevin friggin Siemian. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but at least they didn't look like a steaming pile of dog shit like the giants did tonight.
The giants definitely stunk it up tonight, but the Cowboys got worked over and had their spirits broken to the tune of 42 points by Trevin friggin Siemian. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:52:02 PM EDT
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More "objectivity" from cowboys fans.
The giants definitely stunk it up tonight, but the Cowboys got worked over and had their spirits broken to the tune of 42 points by Trevin friggin Siemian. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but at least they didn't look like a steaming pile of dog shit like the giants did tonight.
The giants definitely stunk it up tonight, but the Cowboys got worked over and had their spirits broken to the tune of 42 points by Trevin friggin Siemian. I did acknowledge that the Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the giants are officially the most over rated team in the league. It showed tonight. They are horrible. The Cowboys went on the road and lost to a much higher caliber team than the Lions. Crybaby Eli should never have had the luxury of being on a team that carried him to 2 Superbowl wins. His time to retire was 3+ years ago. I took the Lions +3.5 tonight and I will continue to take any team opposing the giants and rake in the cash.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:52:39 PM EDT
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Lot of talking heads picking up on LT's comment that Zeke quit on the Cowboys (literally & figuratively). I can't find the video of the Chris Harris INT where Zeke didn't try for a tackle. Can anybody find it? I doubt he has ever been blown out. I think ownershi/coach is a little bit concerned about attitude character. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:55:01 PM EDT
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HOTTAKE: Detroit going to the Super Bowl...  |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:55:33 PM EDT
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And speaking of inept offenses: after two weeks 4 of the bottom 6 teams in points scored made the playoffs last season (though the Dolphins did only play one game). I'm going to out on a limb and guess that's the first time that's happened since the merger.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:00:19 AM EDT
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The Broncos scored 42 points on a depleted and known to be bad defense at home. Not too shocked there. The Broncos are know to have one of the best defenses in the league. I did acknowledge that the Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the giants are officially the most over rated team in the league. It showed tonight. They are horrible. The Cowboys went on the road and lost to a much higher caliber team than the Lions. Crybaby Eli should never have had the luxury of being on a team that carried him to 2 Superbowl wins. His time to retire was 3+ years ago. I took the Lions +3.5 tonight and I will continue to take any team opposing the giants and rake in the cash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but at least they didn't look like a steaming pile of dog shit like the giants did tonight.
The giants definitely stunk it up tonight, but the Cowboys got worked over and had their spirits broken to the tune of 42 points by Trevin friggin Siemian. I did acknowledge that the Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the giants are officially the most over rated team in the league. It showed tonight. They are horrible. The Cowboys went on the road and lost to a much higher caliber team than the Lions. Crybaby Eli should never have had the luxury of being on a team that carried him to 2 Superbowl wins. His time to retire was 3+ years ago. I took the Lions +3.5 tonight and I will continue to take any team opposing the giants and rake in the cash. I hate to say it, but I think the Eagles are probably the most balanced team in the division. The Cowboys have a better offense and the Giants have a better defense. Jury is still out on the Redskins. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:02:10 AM EDT
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Next week will be rough for Detroit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HOTTAKE: Detroit going to the Super Bowl... |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:04:54 AM EDT
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I never really got that one. The Giants' biggest weakness last season was easily their O-line. They did nothing to fix it in the off season and yet so many "experts" thought suddenly it wasn't going to be an issue anymore. I hate to say it, but I think the Eagles are probably the most balanced team in the division. The Cowboys have a better offense and the Giants have a better defense. Jury is still out on the Redskins.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:12:10 AM EDT
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I never really got that one. The Giants' biggest weakness last season was easily their O-line. They did nothing to fix it in the off season and yet so many "experts" thought suddenly it wasn't going to be an issue anymore. I hate to say it, but I think the Eagles are probably the most balanced team in the division. The Cowboys have a better offense and the Giants have a better defense. Jury is still out on the Redskins.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:16:40 AM EDT
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More "objectivity" from cowboys fans.
The giants definitely stunk it up tonight, but the Cowboys got worked over and had their spirits broken to the tune of 42 points by Trevin friggin Siemian. giants versus the crappy cowboys defense: 3 points. giants defense: salary: 2nd performance: 20th
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Posted: 9/19/2017 2:57:32 AM EDT
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Generally not indicative of a team headed in the right direction when you have the head coach publicly throwing his QB under the bus.
http://nypost.com/2017/09/19/ben-mcadoo-ready-to-put-the-blame-on-sloppy-eli-manning/ |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 6:42:58 AM EDT
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I never really got that one. The Giants' biggest weakness last season was easily their O-line. They did nothing to fix it in the off season and yet so many "experts" thought suddenly it wasn't going to be an issue anymore. I hate to say it, but I think the Eagles are probably the most balanced team in the division. The Cowboys have a better offense and the Giants have a better defense. Jury is still out on the Redskins. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but at least they didn't look like a steaming pile of dog shit like the giants did tonight.
The giants definitely stunk it up tonight, but the Cowboys got worked over and had their spirits broken to the tune of 42 points by Trevin friggin Siemian. I did acknowledge that the Cowboys looked bad yesterday, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the giants are officially the most over rated team in the league. It showed tonight. They are horrible. The Cowboys went on the road and lost to a much higher caliber team than the Lions. Crybaby Eli should never have had the luxury of being on a team that carried him to 2 Superbowl wins. His time to retire was 3+ years ago. I took the Lions +3.5 tonight and I will continue to take any team opposing the giants and rake in the cash. I hate to say it, but I think the Eagles are probably the most balanced team in the division. The Cowboys have a better offense and the Giants have a better defense. Jury is still out on the Redskins.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 6:43:43 AM EDT
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Generally not indicative of a team headed in the right direction when you have the head coach publicly throwing his QB under the bus. http://nypost.com/2017/09/19/ben-mcadoo-ready-to-put-the-blame-on-sloppy-eli-manning/ 
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:50:04 AM EDT
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I can see why McAdoo is on the Vegas likely to be fired list.
I agree Eli does not look great, but seriously, McAdoo calls the plays. Four halfs in a row now we have started with a run. But we have absolutely zero run game. Eli has less than 2 seconds to throw the ball before contact is made with him. There is no pocket to move around in, he HAS to get rid of the ball ASAP. It's not even like it's a lineman getting an arm on him, he is getting raped at full speed. I feel bad for him, he has to do everything right now. Brandon Marshall had two key drops. One was a fuckin gimme right in the gut, no excuses, he just blew it. That would have been a game changing play. Eli dropped it perfectly on him 20-25 yards down the field in stride. Flowers is a fucking joke. Enough said. The Giants got boo'd off the field twice last night, at home. They need to get their shit together and fast. They look like a high school team. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:21:40 AM EDT
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I can see why McAdoo is on the Vegas likely to be fired list. I agree Eli does not look great, but seriously, McAdoo calls the plays. Four halfs in a row now we have started with a run. But we have absolutely zero run game. Eli has less than 2 seconds to throw the ball before contact is made with him. There is no pocket to move around in, he HAS to get rid of the ball ASAP. It's not even like it's a lineman getting an arm on him, he is getting raped at full speed. I feel bad for him, he has to do everything right now. Brandon Marshall had two key drops. One was a fuckin gimme right in the gut, no excuses, he just blew it. That would have been a game changing play. Eli dropped it perfectly on him 20-25 yards down the field in stride. Flowers is a fucking joke. Enough said. The Giants got boo'd off the field twice last night, at home. They need to get their shit together and fast. They look like a high school team. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:16:28 AM EDT
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The Giants O-line is certainly a glaring weakness, but at this point in his career Eli has an escapability rating of damn near zero. Already multiple times this season he has been sacked seemingly without even being touched.
The latest "ghost" sack: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/eli-manning-sack-no-contact-touched-lions-giants-nfl |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:46:08 PM EDT
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After last night's loss McAdoo went from 12/1 odds to be the first coach fired to 5/2.
Chuck Pagano (IND) 1/2 Ben McAdoo (NYG) 5/2 Marvin Lewis (CIN) 8/1 While it might seem odd that McAdoo is higher than Lewis I think it makes sense when you consider New York's tolerance for incompetence is much lower than that of Cincinnati. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 12:57:43 PM EDT
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They are now offering odds on when the Jets first win will be.
09-24-17 vs Dolphins 2/1 10-01-17 vs Jaguars 5/2 10-08-17 @ Browns 5/1 10-15-17 vs Patriots 50/1 10-22-17 @ Dolphins 30/1 10-29-17 vs Falcons 30/1 11-02-17 vs Bills 15/1 11-12-17 @ Buccaneers 75/1 11-26-17 vs Panthers 40/1 12-03-17 vs Chiefs 65/1 12-10-17 @ Broncos 65/1 12-17-17 @ Saints 65/1 12-24-17 vs Chargers 40/1 12-31-17 @ Patriots 75/1 Winless Regular Season 6/1 |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:00:03 PM EDT
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Only 2-1 odds vs the Dolphins? Seriously? Did anyone pay attention to the two games last season?
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:04:57 PM EDT
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Only 2-1 odds vs the Dolphins? Seriously? Did anyone pay attention to the two games last season? |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:08:51 PM EDT
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I never really got that one. The Giants' biggest weakness last season was easily their O-line. They did nothing to fix it in the off season and yet so many "experts" thought suddenly it wasn't going to be an issue anymore. I hate to say it, but I think the Eagles are probably the most balanced team in the division. The Cowboys have a better offense and the Giants have a better defense. Jury is still out on the Redskins. Cowboys +140 Eagles +220 Redskins +400 Giants +600 |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 2:21:20 PM EDT
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I can see why McAdoo is on the Vegas likely to be fired list. I agree Eli does not look great, but seriously, McAdoo calls the plays. Four halfs in a row now we have started with a run. But we have absolutely zero run game. Eli has less than 2 seconds to throw the ball before contact is made with him. There is no pocket to move around in, he HAS to get rid of the ball ASAP. It's not even like it's a lineman getting an arm on him, he is getting raped at full speed. I feel bad for him, he has to do everything right now. Brandon Marshall had two key drops. One was a fuckin gimme right in the gut, no excuses, he just blew it. That would have been a game changing play. Eli dropped it perfectly on him 20-25 yards down the field in stride. Flowers is a fucking joke. Enough said. The Giants got boo'd off the field twice last night, at home. They need to get their shit together and fast. They look like a high school team. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 2:43:52 PM EDT
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The Redskins are the most bi-polar team in the division. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 2:48:12 PM EDT
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anybody post that Greg Olsen placed on IR? broken foot.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 2:54:35 PM EDT
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The Redskins are the most bi-polar team in the division.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 3:01:25 PM EDT
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I know that they Giants o-line is terrible but man, even still the play calling feels just so neutered. Eli might be getting older but he's a smart QB with an arm and you have Marshall, OBJ and Shepherd and you're just running the ball and throwing dink and dunk shit for most of the game.
McAdoo IMO moved past Todd Bowles for next to be fired. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 3:05:12 PM EDT
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I know that they Giants o-line is terrible but man, even still the play calling feels just so neutered. Eli might be getting older but he's a smart QB with an arm and you have Marshall, OBJ and Shepherd and you're just running the ball and throwing dink and dunk shit for most of the game. McAdoo IMO moved past Todd Bowles for next to be fired. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 3:21:12 PM EDT
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Hard to throw the ball down the field when the line can't protect the QB. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 3:26:28 PM EDT
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I know that they Giants o-line is terrible but man, even still the play calling feels just so neutered. Eli might be getting older but he's a smart QB with an arm and you have Marshall, OBJ and Shepherd and you're just running the ball and throwing dink and dunk shit for most of the game. McAdoo IMO moved past Todd Bowles for next to be fired.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:49:26 PM EDT
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The Dolphins suspended Lawrence Timmons indefinitely.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:52:22 PM EDT
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The Dolphins suspended Lawrence Timmons indefinitely. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 5:59:29 PM EDT
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The Dolphins suspended Lawrence Timmons indefinitely. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 6:49:39 PM EDT
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The Giants O-line is certainly a glaring weakness, but at this point in his career Eli has an escapability rating of damn near zero. Already multiple times this season he has been sacked seemingly without even being touched. The latest "ghost" sack: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/eli-manning-sack-no-contact-touched-lions-giants-nfl These "ghost sacks", I think they speak more to just how "shook" Eli is. It is ugly man, it's horrifying to watch, I can't imagine living it. He is getting absolutely pummeled. He has no line, no protection and no run game to fall back on. He has to snap that ball every play and hold it, knowing full well that somebody is probably running free right at him. It's a guarantee at this point that Flowers is going to be beat, if not someone else. These ghost sacks are nothing more than that. I said before, he has two seconds to get rid of that ball and it's the plain fact of it. If he hasn't thrown that ball in two seconds he might as well lay down, someone IS coming for him. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:03:28 PM EDT
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Dolphins just traded with the saints for a LB. Gase may actually cut Timmons.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:04:09 PM EDT
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Here is probably the worst shot he took last night. Notably, also, FOUR lineman came right at him and a linebacker came free. No fucking oline to speak of. So when people want to talk about the ghost sacks, you have to be fair and recognize these plays, too. He stood in there and completed the pass (miraculously).
http://giantswire.usatoday.com/2017/09/18/new-york-giants-eli-manning-takes-bone-crunching-hit-watch/ He stood in there because he could see it coming. The ghost sacks take place when he gets caught from behind. He can't see it coming but at the point he goes down I'm convinced he is aware whoever is coming is coming unabated, and so he just goes down. I don't blame him one bit. I'd be fucking horrified if the above video is the standard operation every fucking play he snaps, which it is. They don't even try to help Flowers. It's retarded. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:08:04 PM EDT
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Next week will be rough for Detroit. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:18:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:32:02 PM EDT
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This is true and while it's embarrassing I find it more concerning than anything else. There is only one thing universally respected about Eli, and that is that he is tough as fucking nails. His whole career, he gets walloped and he gets right back up. Never missed a start. You can depend on Eli to get up and get back at it, regardless how bad it is or how hard he just got hit. But Eli is an old man in football years. These "ghost sacks", I think they speak more to just how "shook" Eli is. It is ugly man, it's horrifying to watch, I can't imagine living it. He is getting absolutely pummeled. He has no line, no protection and no run game to fall back on. He has to snap that ball every play and hold it, knowing full well that somebody is probably running free right at him. It's a guarantee at this point that Flowers is going to be beat, if not someone else. These ghost sacks are nothing more than that. I said before, he has two seconds to get rid of that ball and it's the plain fact of it. If he hasn't thrown that ball in two seconds he might as well lay down, someone IS coming for him. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:47:24 PM EDT
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This is true and while it's embarrassing I find it more concerning than anything else. There is only one thing universally respected about Eli, and that is that he is tough as fucking nails. His whole career, he gets walloped and he gets right back up. Never missed a start. You can depend on Eli to get up and get back at it, regardless how bad it is or how hard he just got hit. But Eli is an old man in football years. These "ghost sacks", I think they speak more to just how "shook" Eli is. It is ugly man, it's horrifying to watch, I can't imagine living it. He is getting absolutely pummeled. He has no line, no protection and no run game to fall back on. He has to snap that ball every play and hold it, knowing full well that somebody is probably running free right at him. It's a guarantee at this point that Flowers is going to be beat, if not someone else. These ghost sacks are nothing more than that. I said before, he has two seconds to get rid of that ball and it's the plain fact of it. If he hasn't thrown that ball in two seconds he might as well lay down, someone IS coming for him. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:59:55 PM EDT
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His rating for the season (83) is right in line with his career rating (83.7). When they won the Super Bowl after that insane play where he broke away from every Pats lineman and threw the helmet catch, he won the ESPY award for play of the year. His thank you speech was, "I couldn't have made that play without my offensive line. So I'd like to thank my offensive line for not blocking a single person." Ten years with no O-line. I'm surprised it's taken this long for PTSD to catch up to him. Admittedly, the line is the worst I've ever seen it. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:11:46 PM EDT
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It is ugly man, it's horrifying to watch, I can't imagine living it. He is getting absolutely pummeled. He has no line, no protection and no run game to fall back on. He has to snap that ball every play and hold it, knowing full well that somebody is probably running free right at him. nobody cares. don't fucking flop, or you're going to get laughed at. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:22:20 PM EDT
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IOW, pretty much romo's entire career. nobody cares. don't fucking flop, or you're going to get laughed at. Eli has also never been injured, unlinke Romo. And Super Bowls, unlike Romo. I'm not saying it isn't laughable, I'm just bringing to light the (sad and pathetic) reason behind the action. It's not just, "Eli sacked himself". |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:33:26 PM EDT
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I don't know what you're trying to get. Are you saying what I posted isn't true? When they won the Super Bowl after that insane play where he broke away from every Pats lineman and threw the helmet catch, he won the ESPY award for play of the year. His thank you speech was, "I couldn't have made that play without my offensive line. So I'd like to thank my offensive line for not blocking a single person." Ten years with no O-line. I'm surprised it's taken this long for PTSD to catch up to him. Admittedly, the line is the worst I've ever seen it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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His rating for the season (83) is right in line with his career rating (83.7). When they won the Super Bowl after that insane play where he broke away from every Pats lineman and threw the helmet catch, he won the ESPY award for play of the year. His thank you speech was, "I couldn't have made that play without my offensive line. So I'd like to thank my offensive line for not blocking a single person." Ten years with no O-line. I'm surprised it's taken this long for PTSD to catch up to him. Admittedly, the line is the worst I've ever seen it. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 9:35:50 PM EDT
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Dolphins just traded with the saints for a LB. Gase may actually cut Timmons. |
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