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2/27/2017 11:42:22 PM EDT
Well?

Owners manual says 97500 Miles on a 14 GM Truck with 6L80.  Have seen stories of people with newer trucks than mine struggling mightily in their garages pumping out liters at half this or less.
2/27/2017 11:43:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Should've bought a tundra.
2/27/2017 11:47:54 PM EDT
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It isn't exactly kicking my ass. I've got 72k before I have to worry. I was thinking of having a dealer do it sometime around 2027 at this rate.
2/27/2017 11:51:14 PM EDT
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Change, don't flush.
Flushing will break crap loose and clog valve body.

I would drop the pan and change filter and replace the amount of fluid in pan.

Watch out when you fill it might need to be in neuteral instead of park.  Read the info on the dip stick.
2/27/2017 11:54:49 PM EDT
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Change, don't flush.
Flushing will break crap loose and clog valve body.

I would drop the pan and change filter and replace the amount in pan.

Watch out when you fill it might need to be in neuteral instead of park.  Read the info on the dip stick.
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The likelihood of me doing it myself is zero, but I appreciate your efforts.  I have heard never to flush and just to change.  From 98-14 all I drove was manuals.
2/27/2017 11:57:21 PM EDT
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You can get a small 12 volt pump off of amazon and suck the fluid out via the dip stick tub. It's easy, just put in the same amount you suck out.
2/27/2017 11:58:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Scheduled maintenance, per manufacturer.
2/27/2017 11:59:07 PM EDT
[#7]
If the fluid is still red you don't need to worry.  When it's starts getting black, change it.
2/28/2017 12:01:02 AM EDT
[#8]
Every 50k miles.
2/28/2017 12:01:36 AM EDT
[#9]
Normally I would change the fluid when the manual says to but for both my 4Runner and FJ Cruiser it does not say to ever change it as the transmissions are sealed.  I had the 4Runner's ATF changed at 100k and will be changing the FJC's at 90k now that I see how it's done (transmission has to be at a certain temp range to check the level).  I don't trust it being a lifetime fluid.

ETA: I wish I had done both vehicles at 60k miles but oh well.
2/28/2017 12:02:14 AM EDT
[#10]
If you are towing, I would at least check the fluid to ensure it isn't burnt or has floaty crap in it(clutch material). If it were clean, I wouldn't worry about it.
2/28/2017 12:02:22 AM EDT
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Every 50k miles.
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I recommend 60k to my customers
2/28/2017 12:16:46 AM EDT
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Unless you tow or do a lot of stop go traffic just stick to the manual. i would wager people fucking up fluid changes have killed more transmissions than not changing the fluid at all.
2/28/2017 12:16:48 AM EDT
[#13]
You have to take different variables into account

Newer or older vehicle

Hard use- towing etc.

Contamination- off roading etc.

I used to run Astro vans as work vans and we routinely got over 250,000 miles out of them before they started to go downhill. Tranny fluid was changed at 100,000 miles to who knows. If I got a van that had low enough mileage I would do changes at the recommended intervals. If I got one with well over 100,000 miles I just left it alone. When i did do fluid changed I would pull the line from the tranny cooler and let it pump out before I pulled the pan

Rarely does anything good come from messing with automatic trannies that haven't had proper fluid changes. I've also never seen a vehicle with a slipping transmission fixed by just changing the fluid.

Eta: tranny thread
2/28/2017 9:24:27 AM EDT
[#14]
I did my CVT fluid on my Accord at 30k. Put in 4 quarts of fluid but  I only got about half the full amount of fluid out. I'll change it again at 60k. Maybe I did it early but I plan on keeping this car till it dies so to me it was $40 well spent.
2/28/2017 9:28:28 AM EDT
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Every two to three years, drain and fill (Japanese cars).
2/28/2017 9:29:41 AM EDT
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Do they service the transmission on those when they take it out to replace the frame?
2/28/2017 9:33:09 AM EDT
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Don't just do a flush, its actually bad for the trans. If it needs servicing, take it and have the pan removed, filter changed etc etc
2/28/2017 9:56:47 AM EDT
[#18]
How did this "flush is bad for the tranny" myth get started?  

Anyone actually know how they do it?
2/28/2017 10:19:10 AM EDT
[#19]
Every 50K miles.

Vince
2/28/2017 10:20:14 AM EDT
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Every 50K miles. DO NOT do a trans flush, all it does is eventually stop up the filters.

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2/28/2017 10:27:32 AM EDT
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It's a bit funny seeing some manufacturers promoting "lifetime" fills.  As in, the fluid is good for the lifetime of the transmission.  As if they give a shit what that "lifetime" is once the warranty expires.

I generally have it changed/serviced at 25k miles and every 50k thereafter, unless towing or some other severe duty.
2/28/2017 10:29:41 AM EDT
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Probably started by shops that don't have a flush machine. The theory is it will dislodge sludge and cause slipping (same logic from people who say never touch it). If your trans. is that full of sludge that it's a functional part, WTF?

Unless there's some new power flush, the machine just taps into the cooler lines, and you run the engine. The trans. pump just circulates out the old fluid for new.
2/28/2017 10:31:16 AM EDT
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Circle D Transmission in Houston (One of the 6L80E specialists) said every 25k after I had to replace mine @ 110k miles.
2/28/2017 10:41:35 AM EDT
[#24]
Changed at 23k miles on my Accord CVT. I think l spring for every other oil change. Cheap insurance.
2/28/2017 10:46:33 AM EDT
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Should've bought a tundra.

Do they service the transmission on those when they take it out to replace the frame?


Depends, probably just a fluid level check if they bother at all.

I have an 08 Tundra and did a flush at 90K and just did another at 120K and every 30K after that.

M.O.C. recommends a flush every 30K and if the tyranny fails and you've done the flush every 30K they'll replace your tyranny or give you a certain amount IIRC.
2/28/2017 10:46:40 AM EDT
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Well?

Owners manual says 97500 Miles on a 14 GM Truck with 6L80.  Have seen stories of people with newer trucks than mine struggling mightily in their garages pumping out liters at half this or less.
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4L65, 160K miles of abuse.

Never changed or checked the trans fluid.
2/28/2017 11:12:48 AM EDT
[#27]
Drop the pan/filter, refill, drive.
2/28/2017 11:13:42 AM EDT
[#28]
Nothing wrong with flushing a transmission.
2/28/2017 4:06:07 PM EDT
[#29]
A huge % of the fluid is in the torque converter.





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