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Posted: 7/2/2003 6:25:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2003 6:31:59 AM EDT by clean_cut]
Sell all your guns, and be completely 100% gun-less for the rest of your life. How hard would you say this is to do on a scale of 1-10? 1 - Okay, I can sell it all tomorrow 5 - Arrgh, it'll take some time and not without blood, sweat, and tears, but I can live without my guns 10 - What, are you insane? My guns are going with me to the grave.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:26:36 AM EDT
Just feeling masochistic today.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:30:08 AM EDT
10+
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:31:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:39:44 AM EDT
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:44:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:47:26 AM EDT
Come on, no one is going to say "1"? Haha
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:50:24 AM EDT
11.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:53:07 AM EDT
This leads to my question. All of you probably have other hobbies - 4X4, motorcycles, sports cars, photography, etc. And yet if I posed the same poll on your other hobbies you would likely not be willing to die for your cameras, etc. So, what makes guns different?
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:56:11 AM EDT
I won't give up anything I've purchased legally. I just through their hoops, they can't ban something I've legally bought after the fact. No Ex-Post Facto Laws. 1. I won't give up my sports cars 2. I won't give up my dogs 3. I won't give up my guns, body armor, or gas masks 4. I won't give up anything I've bought legally.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:57:50 AM EDT
I don't own any guns so it's not an issue[headbang]
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:59:32 AM EDT
What's a gun?
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 6:59:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Hokie: I don't own any guns so it's not an issue[headbang]
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Riiiiiggghht. Just kidding Hokie. [;)]
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:00:04 AM EDT
I can't imagine how weak I would feel if I couldn't have a gun of some sort anymore. having guns is really a big part of who I am, & how I define myself in this physical world. I hope that God has made provision for the love of guns that he has given me, in my home in heaven. I know I might sound cliche, but I would die to keep my right as a free man to keep my tools of protection at my disposal. Have you gone off your meds again? Stop doing that it freaks me out,...A LOT!!!
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:02:25 AM EDT
Have you gone off your meds again? Stop doing that it freaks me out,...A LOT!!!
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Uh, do what?
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:07:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By clean_cut: This leads to my question. All of you probably have other hobbies - 4X4, motorcycles, sports cars, photography, etc. And yet if I posed the same poll on your other hobbies you would likely not be willing to die for your cameras, etc. So, what makes guns different?
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I assume you know the answer, or you wouldn't be here.... Every responsible, free person should own weapons for defense of himself and his community. He should also practice to become proficient with these weapons. It just so happens that most of us here also [i]enjoy[/i] shooting. When you talk about taking guns, it's not just another hobby. Gun ownership is a right, nay, a [b]responsibility[/b], not a hobby.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:11:25 AM EDT
You first
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:11:41 AM EDT
I may sell some, but I'll NEVER sell all.....
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:39:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By clean_cut:
Have you gone off your meds again? Stop doing that it freaks me out,...A LOT!!!
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Uh, do what?
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Post asking me to think about getting rid of my guns! Now take your pills.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:43:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Searcherfortruth:
Originally Posted By clean_cut:
Have you gone off your meds again? Stop doing that it freaks me out,...A LOT!!!
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Uh, do what?
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Post asking me to think about getting rid of my guns! Now take your pills.
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Oh. [:D] Sorry, dude. Just imagine how hard it was for me to post it!
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:46:48 AM EDT
I want to buried in my car with all my guns.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:54:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By clean_cut: This leads to my question. All of you probably have other hobbies - 4X4, motorcycles, sports cars, photography, etc. And yet if I posed the same poll on your other hobbies you would likely not be willing to die for your cameras, etc. So, what makes guns different?
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I don't consider life cheap enough to die for anything but to save myself, or someone else from immanent danger. I may need my guns for such a reason,& if I only ever use them for fun so be it. At least I have a way to be equal to any person who would try to take my freedom,liberty,or life away. And that is deadly serious stuff to mess with in my book.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:58:53 AM EDT
hell, i used part of the proceeds from the sale of my racecar to buy my first AR.............a man has to have his priorities you know. unless of course he has more money than he knows what to do with. this is a problem i dont have to worry about.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 10:56:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2003 10:57:12 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]
Anyone thinking guns aren't worth dieing for needs to read - [url=http://userweb.suscom.net/~paulbritton/metal&wood.htm][b]Metal & Wood[/b][/url] "Metal and Wood" Source: The Firing Line Author: Dennis Bateman It is a rare person who does not attach some sort of value or emotion to some physical object or to an event. A home becomes more than a building. A statue of the Virgin Mary, a crucifix, a flag or a song, or even a photograph can stir emotions greater than the value of the material item. I have a piece of paper showing I served in the military until I was discharged honorably. But, oh, the memories that piece of paper conjures up. The friends, the fun times. The bad times. The times when we were bound closer to strangers than to our own families and, in frightening chaos, our lives hung by a thread. Many of our friends died far from home. Ask us about the feeling of "American soil" upon returning to the land we loved. Ask those returning soldiers about America. Remember the old, faintly humorous band of American Legionnaires, wearing out-dated military uniforms straining at the buttons. But, God how proudly they marched. Grinning, waving to friends and families, and always, always "The Flag!" Ask them if the flag is mere cloth, I dare you. See the elderly lady sitting in a lawn chair watching the fourth of July parade. Three flags carefully folded some forty years ago into triangles now rest in her lap - one for each lost son. Ask her if those flags are mere cloth, I dare you. Look at the old man quietly crying, leaning against the Iwo Jima Memorial at Arlington Cemetery. As he turns to you, smiles with some embarrassment, and says in a choked whisper, "I was there." Ask him, "Is it just metal and clay?" Ask him. I dare you. The Wall. My God, the Wall. See the young man lightly tracing the name of his father there inscribed. Ask him if its just rock. Ask him. I dare you. My guns? They are of little real value compared to my family and my home. They are toys, or tools, or both. But what those guns represent to me is greater than all of us, greater than myself, my family, and indeed greater than our entire generation. What could be of such value? The freedom of man to live within civil, self-imposed limitations rather than under restrictions placed upon him by a ruler or a ruling class. Imagine the daring, the bravery of a few men to declare they intended to create a new country, independent of the burden of their established Rulers! Those men we call our forefathers were brilliant men. They could have maneuvered themselves into positions of influence within the structure of the times, but they did not. They struggled to free themselves from tyranny. They wrote the Declaration of Independence. And they backed up their words and ideals with metal and wood. They knew the dangers of such dreams and actions. They knew it was a frightening and dangerous venture into the unknown when they dared reach beyond their grasp for a vision - for an ideal. But they dared to dedicate themselves to achieve Liberty and Freedom for their children, and their children's children, through the generations. Imagine the dreams and yearnings of centuries finally being reduced to the written word. The Rights of "We the People!" instead of the "Powers of the Monarchy." Our forefathers dared to create a new government - a new form of government. And they knew that any organization has, as its first and foremost goal, its continued existence. Second only to that it strives to increase its power. It plots, it devises, it maneuvers to achieve control over its environment - over its subjects. Our Forefathers decided to make America different from any country, anywhere, at any time in the entire history of the entire world. This country, this new nation of immigrants, would be based upon the concept that people could rule themselves better than any single person or small group of persons could rule them. Other countries have had outstanding documents with guarantees for its citizens - but the citizens have become enslaved. How, these great men pondered, can we ensure this new government will remain subject to the will of the People? They wanted limits upon this new government. Therefore, our forefathers wrote limitations into the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And one of those Rights was that metal and wood, as the final power of the people, would secure this country for the future generations. Metal and wood were the means by which we won our freedom. Metal and wood were the means by which we kept our freedom. Metal and wood may be the means by which we regain our freedom. Metal and wood are the final power of the people. Take away the metal and wood and the people become powerless - they can only beg, they supplicate for favors. We are unique in our ability to rule ourselves but we are letting it slip away. Today we compromise. We try to appease man's insatiable appetite for power by throwing him bits of our freedoms. But the insatiable appetite for power cannot be appeased. The freedoms we feed him only make us weaker and him stronger. We must conquer him and again ensure the "Blessings of Liberty" won for us by our forefathers. We must be ready to use metal and wood again, for if we are ready, truly ready, we may be able to conquer the monster with words - for in its heart it is a coward. But if we continue to feed the monster our freedoms, we will become too weak to win, to weak even to fight, and we will become a conquered people. We will have sold ourselves and our future generations into servitude. If words fail us, we will use metal and wood, we will regain what we have lost, we will achieve what we seek, we will guarantee the America of our forefathers for the future generations. So you see, our guns are more than metal and wood. They are our heritage of freedom. They are the universally understood symbol that the government, no matter how big and strong it may be, answers to us! They are the tools we will use to prevent tyranny in the land of our forefathers and our children. So, ask me what my guns mean to me. Ask my children what our guns mean to them. Ask us. I dare you.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 11:03:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 11:05:37 AM EDT
10+
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 11:12:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By clean_cut: This leads to my question. All of you probably have other hobbies - 4X4, motorcycles, sports cars, photography, etc. And yet if I posed the same poll on your other hobbies you would likely not be willing to die for your cameras, etc. So, what makes guns different?
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Link Posted: 7/2/2003 11:32:38 AM EDT
I'm a weapons breeder. I sell them as my colection grows, much like cattle. I started with two, they had offspring, I would sell the offspring to bring in new breeding material which inturn had more offspring increasing the size of the heard. A month or so ago, I sold a Bushmaster, I got three AR's in return, a pre-ban, a bull-barrel and a AR rimfire. This week I picked up a Beretta 1201FP and will sell the Winchester that will in turn buy another breeder for the heard. The heard is getting quite large and soon I will have to increase the safe size for them to graze & breed.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 11:39:42 AM EDT
I consider guns tools. As such, I could sell off what I have as long as I got something else that did the job as well...in other words, different guns. I could get by with just a couple guns for the rest of my life, but I would never sell them all off.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 11:44:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2003 11:46:49 AM EDT by Jarhead_22]
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 11:44:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Rickyj:
Originally Posted By clean_cut: This leads to my question. All of you probably have other hobbies - 4X4, motorcycles, sports cars, photography, etc. And yet if I posed the same poll on your other hobbies you would likely not be willing to die for your cameras, etc. So, what makes guns different?
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So, what makes guns different? Actually, that's an honest question. Can you answer it? (I've got about 25 firearms in my collection).
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 11:51:18 AM EDT
Ready.gov says prepare for terrorism so have WATER & FOOD,CLEAN AIR,FIRST AID KIT,SUPPLY CHECKLISTS,SPECIAL NEEDS ITEMS,so self defense items must be in there some where and my homeland defense weapons are surely legal and protected as my part in the war on terrorism. so when some terrorist takes my home land defense rifle from my dead hands he can have it..........if he did not get the first part I should have tried to give him first.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 12:01:01 PM EDT
Guns to the 2nd Amendment are what an open public forum discussion are to the 1st Amendment. Discussion and debate are required for our representative republic to correct itself. The FF knew that in order to create something that would stand the test of time, the system would need checks and balances. Firearms in the hands of its citizens is the ultimate check and balance. As a citizen of the United States, it should be an obligation to own a firearm. Don't shirk your responsibility to insure government doesn't overstep its bounds. That is what makes firearms different from any other hobby. The 2nd Amendment is not about duck hunting. The 2nd Amendment is not about target shooting. The 2nd Amendment is about stopping tyranny. Some are willing to accept that obligation, most are not...
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 12:13:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By fight4yourrights: Anyone thinking guns aren't worth dieing for needs to read - [url=http://userweb.suscom.net/~paulbritton/metal&wood.htm][b]Metal & Wood[/b][/url] "Metal and Wood"
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Wow. Thanks.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 1:30:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By clean_cut:
Originally Posted By Rickyj:
Originally Posted By clean_cut: This leads to my question. All of you probably have other hobbies - 4X4, motorcycles, sports cars, photography, etc. And yet if I posed the same poll on your other hobbies you would likely not be willing to die for your cameras, etc. So, what makes guns different?
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So, what makes guns different? Actually, that's an honest question. Can you answer it? (I've got about 25 firearms in my collection).
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I was just razzn' ya. To suggest that I give away my guns, how dare you. Well I guess the difference is that nobody is going to try and take my 4X4, motorcycles, sports cars, photography, etc, if I still have my guns. Simple and obvious enough? [:D]
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 3:45:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 3:49:33 PM EDT
You are nuts. 10 all the way.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 3:53:14 PM EDT
i could sell all my guns tomorrow... if the price is right...say 900% over retail sounds good....
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 3:53:52 PM EDT
Well, IF I had any, it would rate about a 10.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 3:55:37 PM EDT
... 8.278
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 4:06:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By clean_cut: This leads to my question. All of you probably have other hobbies - 4X4, motorcycles, sports cars, photography, etc. And yet if I posed the same poll on your other hobbies you would likely not be willing to die for your cameras, etc. So, what makes guns different?
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My possession of weapons, is the ONLY thing that allows me to die as a Freeman...
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 5:38:47 PM EDT
all i own is a 38 and a 22 anyway
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