Posted: 10/18/2016 2:48:30 PM EDT
I need something that does not violate NJ AWB laws    I cant have a flash hider and do not want a muzzle brake. Id like some sort of compensator that looks high speed. It cant have threads (like the AAC comps) and must be permanently attached; therefore Im going with a 14.5 inch barrel. So the muzzle device must bring me to 16.1. Another roadblock is that it cannot fail the "pinky test." If you can stick you pinky in the end of it it is a no-go. Halp! ETA: Perhaps a BC 1.5? |
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Rebar cutter? Can't find one without a flashider
Here is a muzzle brake that doesn't look like a muzzle brake http://www.midwayusa.com/product/124926/yankee-hill-machine-muzzle-brake-phantom-5m1-aggressive-1-2-28-thread-ar-15-parkerized |
| I know you said no muzzle brake, but during the federal AWB I had an AK74 brake I bought from bushmaster pinned and welded onto my M4 clone I had at the time. If I had to have a muzzle device that was not a flash suppressor, thats what I would have again. No blast or noise directed back at the shooter, did a fair job of keeping the muzzle down during rapid fire. |
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Dude. That's tier 1 how the bipod clamps on the barrel. Leaves more room for attachments on the handguards. |
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I need something that does not violate NJ AWB laws
I cant have a flash hider and do not want a muzzle brake. Id like some sort of compensator that looks high speed. It cant have threads (like the AAC comps) and must be permanently attached; therefore Im going with a 14.5 inch barrel. So the muzzle device must bring me to 16.1. Another roadblock is that it cannot fail the "pinky test." If you can stick you pinky in the end of it it is a no-go. Halp! ETA: Perhaps a BC 1.5? Why not use the money you'd spend on a communist compliant device (CCD) and get a plane ticket to America? |
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Battlecomp 1.0?
http://www.skdtac.com/BattleComp-1-0-Black-Oxide-p/bac.051.htm |
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Does the 5C1 count as a flash suppressor or a muzzle brake/compensator?
I've had great success playing with some of the uber cheap ebay offerings but you may not want to pin and weld one of those onto a rifle. ebay comp Also the carlson mini comp if you still want to do 16" but keep it short. |
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The battlecomp is a good choice, but pricey. Maybe something from griffin if you want to save some cash.
https://www.griffinarmament.com/M4SD-5-56-Tactical-Compensator-1-2x28-p/xhp556tc.htm https://www.griffinarmament.com/M4SD-5-56-Linear-Comp-1-2x28-p/xhp556lc.htm |
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Check out the Griffin Armament offerings: https://www.griffinarmament.com/category-s/1833.htm
Tomac |
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Quoted: How do they determine what is a Flash hider and what isn't? Is that what the pinky test does? Quoted: How do they determine what is a Flash hider and what isn't? Is that what the pinky test does? A. semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:
This is all I have to go on. The laws are notoriously vague. The pinky test isn't something that is written as far as I have searched, but rather word of mouth. There is someone in the NJ HTF that can give you a much more detailed explanation. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Pinky test? Thats dumb. Is there a standard pinky size in NJ? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/06/12/2B243F4600000578-3186889-image-a-35_1438860021487.jpg |
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Pinky test? Thats dumb. Is there a standard pinky size in NJ? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/06/12/2B243F4600000578-3186889-image-a-35_1438860021487.jpg You should see the size of his gloves! 
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Make that the BC 1.5, due to barrel length |
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y-comp No EEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeI remember shooting my new bushmaster M4 clone with the perm attached mini Y comp. Holy shit. I was at an indoor range, it wasnt as hateful outside, as long as you were using plugs and ear muffs. |
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This is all I have to go on. The laws are notoriously vague. The pinky test isn't something that is written as far as I have searched, but rather word of mouth. There is someone in the NJ HTF that can give you a much more detailed explanation. Quoted:
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How do they determine what is a Flash hider and what isn't? Is that what the pinky test does? A. semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:
This is all I have to go on. The laws are notoriously vague. The pinky test isn't something that is written as far as I have searched, but rather word of mouth. There is someone in the NJ HTF that can give you a much more detailed explanation. Sounds gay. And not cool gay like Freddie Mercury, but gross gay like Brokeback Mountain. I'd get a BE Meyers 249F. It is a flash hider, and the law says "flash suppressor". It is long enough to be pinned and get the overall length up to 16". |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How do they determine what is a Flash hider and what isn't? Is that what the pinky test does? A. semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:
This is all I have to go on. The laws are notoriously vague. The pinky test isn't something that is written as far as I have searched, but rather word of mouth. There is someone in the NJ HTF that can give you a much more detailed explanation. Sounds gay. And not cool gay like Freddie Mercury, but gross gay like Brokeback Mountain. I'd get a BE Meyers 249F. It is a flash hider, and the law says "flash suppressor". It is long enough to be pinned and get the overall length up to 16". |
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wait I missed the pinky part...
So does that mean that a device that was open ended but with no ports or holes wouldn't work. oh and I think this one could work right? https://store.ar15.com/product.html?cat=108&pr=650 
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Griffin is like knockoff shit. 
I've got 3 of their MD's, a 30SD silencer, and two more of their silencers on the way. Go ahead and keep letting internet BS and squabbles determine what you buy if you wanna, but you're missing out on some badass, high-quality "knockoff shit". ETA: Their QD system for attaching silencers to A2-style flash hiders is awesome. Same 30SD suppressor on my 14.5 AR (has a GA Flash-Comp) and M92 SBR (has a regular A2 flash hider). Give GA another look, OP. 
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Quoted: I've got 3 of their MD's, a 30SD silencer, and two more of their silencers on the way. Go ahead and keep letting internet BS and squabbles determine what you buy if you wanna, but you're missing out on some badass, high-quality "knockoff shit". Quoted: Quoted: Griffin is like knockoff shit. I've got 3 of their MD's, a 30SD silencer, and two more of their silencers on the way. Go ahead and keep letting internet BS and squabbles determine what you buy if you wanna, but you're missing out on some badass, high-quality "knockoff shit". I'm looking for a muzzle device not an argument  |
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Quoted: wait I missed the pinky part... So does that mean that a device that was open ended but with no ports or holes wouldn't work. oh and I think this one could work right? https://store.ar15.com/product.html?cat=108&pr=650 https://store.ar15.com/media/store/a2-compensator.jpg |
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Lol... If I had spent the coin on a line of their products I might defend them also. Given the choice, I'd spend the money on "original" merchandise instead of unduly licensed/remarkably similar products that might've come after. But I digress. I'm looking for a muzzle device not an argument
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Griffin is like knockoff shit.
I've got 3 of their MD's, a 30SD silencer, and two more of their silencers on the way. Go ahead and keep letting internet BS and squabbles determine what you buy if you wanna, but you're missing out on some badass, high-quality "knockoff shit". I'm looking for a muzzle device not an argument
Yes, you would defend them if you were lucky enough to own a line of their products. They make awesome stuff |
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Yes, you would defend them if you were lucky enough to own a line of their products. They make awesome stuff It's okay, I'd be angry if I lived in NJ too. 
Seriously, not trying to prod you or anything, but if you don't own any GA products, you really ought to consider one of their muzzle devices. |
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Quoted: It's okay, I'd be angry if I lived in NJ too. Seriously, not trying to prod you or anything, but if you don't own any GA products, you really ought to consider one of their muzzle devices. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, you would defend them if you were lucky enough to own a line of their products. They make awesome stuff It's okay, I'd be angry if I lived in NJ too. Seriously, not trying to prod you or anything, but if you don't own any GA products, you really ought to consider one of their muzzle devices. I may pay extra for the MAMS mentioned above just to say I own one. |
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I need something that does not violate NJ AWB laws
I cant have a flash hider and do not want a muzzle brake. Id like some sort of compensator that looks high speed. It cant have threads (like the AAC comps) and must be permanently attached; therefore Im going with a 14.5 inch barrel. So the muzzle device must bring me to 16.1. Another roadblock is that it cannot fail the "pinky test." If you can stick you pinky in the end of it it is a no-go. Halp! ETA: Perhaps a BC 1.5? When did the 'Pinky Test' (whatever it is) get codified into NJ law? |
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Quoted: When did the 'Pinky Test' whatever it is get codified into NJ law? Quoted: Quoted: I need something that does not violate NJ AWB laws I cant have a flash hider and do not want a muzzle brake. Id like some sort of compensator that looks high speed. It cant have threads (like the AAC comps) and must be permanently attached; therefore Im going with a 14.5 inch barrel. So the muzzle device must bring me to 16.1. Another roadblock is that it cannot fail the "pinky test." If you can stick you pinky in the end of it it is a no-go. Halp! ETA: Perhaps a BC 1.5? When did the 'Pinky Test' whatever it is get codified into NJ law? |
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I don't believe it did, or at least i can't find it. Old wives tale? Not sure. But that's what they tell you in the HTF. I have no reason not to believe them. Quoted:
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I need something that does not violate NJ AWB laws
I cant have a flash hider and do not want a muzzle brake. Id like some sort of compensator that looks high speed. It cant have threads (like the AAC comps) and must be permanently attached; therefore Im going with a 14.5 inch barrel. So the muzzle device must bring me to 16.1. Another roadblock is that it cannot fail the "pinky test." If you can stick you pinky in the end of it it is a no-go. Halp! ETA: Perhaps a BC 1.5? When did the 'Pinky Test' whatever it is get codified into NJ law? I still have Nappen's books (I & II) and have never ever heard that one. Of course I've been away from that God-forsaken state for almost 11 years now ETA: I was doing a search and this is what I found on a NJ Gun Owner's forum If your pinky breaks the plane it's for reals and you might get herpes. Even just a little, it's a mucous membrane thing.
If you can get your pinky past the front but can't touch the muzzle you can try for a two point conversion or call it safe at third. Unless you roll a 20-sided die and hit double damage 
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I don't believe it did, or at least i can't find it. Old wives tale? Not sure. But that's what they tell you in the HTF. I have no reason not to believe them. Quoted:
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I need something that does not violate NJ AWB laws
I cant have a flash hider and do not want a muzzle brake. Id like some sort of compensator that looks high speed. It cant have threads (like the AAC comps) and must be permanently attached; therefore Im going with a 14.5 inch barrel. So the muzzle device must bring me to 16.1. Another roadblock is that it cannot fail the "pinky test." If you can stick you pinky in the end of it it is a no-go. Halp! ETA: Perhaps a BC 1.5? When did the 'Pinky Test' whatever it is get codified into NJ law? There are defining characteristics of flash hiders and an open end is one of them. In that vein, do you trust an avg NJ cop to know the difference between the a2 "comp" and a2 "FH" in the arfcom store? They look so similar. They also list the pws 556 as a comp, but I know for CA featureless that is considered a flash hider. ETA politicians are dumb |
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Dude. That's tier 1 how the bipod clamps on the barrel. Leaves more room for attachments on the handguards. Quoted:
Dude. That's tier 1 how the bipod clamps on the barrel. Leaves more room for attachments on the handguards. That was an issue bipod for the M16 back in the day. Long before they had Tier anything floating around the internet. They were still floating around back in the mid 80s when I first joined the USAF. |