[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Russia (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/4/2016 2:36:58 PM EDT
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The White House has cut off all talks with Russia. Russia has deployed an advanced missile system to Syria amid cutting off communications with the White House.
Well folks this looks pretty F'in serious here. Obama is trying to start some shit here over some stupid muslin civil war. Isn't Russia helping the current legal government and we are backing the rebels. I thought we did not not back rebels, that we only recognized current governments. Either we have bombed government targets this past month by accident the press secretary said. Yeah right. Kerry said Russia is targeting civilian targets. Well aren't the rebels civilians just like Isis and the Taliban we are fighting. The U.S. is actually in Syria illegally supporting rebels against the rightful goverment. Obama is screwing with the wrong leader. IF Obama attacks Russia in any way Putin will attack all U.S. bases in the Middle East with missiles. You can't help but wonder if zero has a plan of some before the elections to cause as much hacoc as posdible before he leaves. |
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If Trump wins, Zero will quickly declare war and get a third term. Obama doesn't have the balls to do that He keeps poking Medved and Dragon in the eye. He follows orders too and I don't put anything beyond him. I'd rather have a mano-y-mano match. The only way Russia loses is if the Wookie can outfight Vlad. No way 0 can take on Vlad (unless 0 outruns Vlad while fleeing like a sissy). |
| Problem is Obama has been called a coward by so many people that he may think he has something to prove before he leaves office. Either that or like some of you have said he's going to cause as much crap as he can before he leaves for the next president. Obama does not care about this country one way or the other. I'd be surprised if he stayed here after he left office. It would not surprise me if he did not move out of the country some place. |
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Yes. This is shockingly bad foreign policy. We are actively trying to maintain this war by backing meager forces which cannot win and likely are simply constructs to get access to our weapons and cash. A side benefit is that we're risking war with Russia in order to prevent them from establishing stability.
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This right here. He should have struck after Syria crossed his " red line" on chemical weapons. He didn't and lost all credibility. Quoted:
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Obamas weak ass leadership has made this world one dangerous place. This right here. He should have struck after Syria crossed his " red line" on chemical weapons. He didn't and lost all credibility. He tried to strike and it never went to a vote after the GOP made it clear that he wouldn't get the votes to do so. This is a pretty weak argument when your own 'side' caused the lack of a strike and was actually right to deny authorization. More importantly, Obama and Kerry were wrong to try to interfere then. This is a big, expensive, nasty conflict with neither major actor being palatable or a beneficial partner to the United States. Owning and Americanizing the conflict and/or getting involved because we have to 'control' the Middle East or we think Russia will make some type of unacceptable strategic gain is the height of folly. This is where Obama failed then and is failing now. Others like McCain, Cotton and various hawkish interests are similarly eager to raise the stakes in this case of ill conceived and dangerous brinksmanship. HRC is also getting ready to double down on the idea that Assad must go which flies in the face of logic, national interests, the realm of possibility and common sense. |
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Quoted: If Trump wins, Russia backs off because they know Trump will work with them and make shit happen economically. If FHRC wins, Russia keeps jabbing us in the eye daring us to do something about it. Hitlery has bigger balls than Obama. But still, she'd be a huge mistake to elect. |
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Problem is Obama has been called a coward by so many people that he may think he has something to prove before he leaves office. Either that or like some of you have said he's going to cause as much crap as he can before he leaves for the next president. Obama does not care about this country one way or the other. I'd be surprised if he stayed here after he left office. It would not surprise me if he did not move out of the country some place. Putin won, again. Obama won't do shit. He has a pallet of cash and a palace in Tehran waiting for him. |
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You mean the Russians are being mindlessly belligerent in order to deflect internal criticisms and rebuild the greater and new Russia despite our numerous resets and outreaches since 1999? Get the fuck out! Eh not so sure Tactically and operationally creative? Sure. Executing towards a long-term economically and politically viable end state for the Russian Federation? Not so much. The 25% of the Russian Federation that is Muslim and the soon to be Chinese overlords really don't care if the Russians view themselves as some "Eurasian" power. As long as Putin does what he does Russia will be North Korea without the stability and a Banana Republic without the bananas. |
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I would like to ask site staff that whenever anyone who mindlessly shills for a foreign power on this web board they have bullshit light that illuminates. I mean, if this was 1943 would we like Tokyo Rose post gems like the OP? If you didn't know, Russia is having shelter drills with 40 million Russians going underground. Here in America we have no shelters (except for things like continuity of government). |
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If you didn't know, Russia is having shelter drills with 40 million Russians going underground. Here in America we have no shelters (except for things like continuity of government). Quoted:
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I would like to ask site staff that whenever anyone who mindlessly shills for a foreign power on this web board they have bullshit light that illuminates. I mean, if this was 1943 would we like Tokyo Rose post gems like the OP? If you didn't know, Russia is having shelter drills with 40 million Russians going underground. Here in America we have no shelters (except for things like continuity of government). I would agree that we have the least strategically minded presidency in the last 100 years, and that includes our deterrence policy. But Marie Harf's job at State Department is the only thing that keeps her from becoming a terrorist |
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Probably worth a thread of its own; 40 million people involved. |
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If you didn't know, Russia is having shelter drills with 40 million Russians going underground. Here in America we have no shelters (except for things like continuity of government). Quoted:
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I would like to ask site staff that whenever anyone who mindlessly shills for a foreign power on this web board they have bullshit light that illuminates. I mean, if this was 1943 would we like Tokyo Rose post gems like the OP? If you didn't know, Russia is having shelter drills with 40 million Russians going underground. Here in America we have no shelters (except for things like continuity of government). Link? I would like to know more. |
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I would like to ask site staff that whenever anyone who mindlessly shills for a foreign power on this web board have bullshit light that illuminates. I mean, if this was 1943 would we like having Tokyo Rose post gems like the OP? I see you've been on this board only a year before me but seem to run your pie hole a hell of a lot more than me by your post count. I just repeated a FOX REPORT. nothing more. I do not exaggerate my posts. I found the news interesting. I never said Obama was going to start a war to stay in office. |
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Yes. This is shockingly bad foreign policy. We are actively trying to maintain this war by backing meager forces which cannot win and likely are simply constructs to get access to our weapons and cash. A side benefit is that we're risking war with Russia in order to prevent them from establishing stability. Like Ukraine stability? Or Georgia stability? Because Russia hasn't exported stability since, ever. |
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This right here. He should have struck after Syria crossed his " red line" on chemical weapons. He didn't and lost all credibility. Quoted:
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Obamas weak ass leadership has made this world one dangerous place. This right here. He should have struck after Syria crossed his " red line" on chemical weapons. He didn't and lost all credibility. Don't forget also abandoning the last reasonable elements of Syrian society to be set upon and defeated in detail by Iranian stogies and Takfiri throat slitters. Presidential policy so bad the Presidents last Ambassador to Syria publically retired in disgust and protest. But you really didn't hear about it. Funny, that. |
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Tactically and operationally creative? Sure. Executing towards a long-term economically and politically viable end state for the Russian Federation? Not so much. The 25% of the Russian Federation that is Muslim and the soon to be Chinese overlords really don't care if the Russians view themselves as some "Eurasian" power. As long as Putin does what he does Russia will be North Korea without the stability and a Banana Republic without the bananas. Quoted:
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You mean the Russians are being mindlessly belligerent in order to deflect internal criticisms and rebuild the greater and new Russia despite our numerous resets and outreaches since 1999? Get the fuck out! Eh not so sure Tactically and operationally creative? Sure. Executing towards a long-term economically and politically viable end state for the Russian Federation? Not so much. The 25% of the Russian Federation that is Muslim and the soon to be Chinese overlords really don't care if the Russians view themselves as some "Eurasian" power. As long as Putin does what he does Russia will be North Korea without the stability and a Banana Republic without the bananas. I'd heartily agree with that. Putin is playing his hand in Syria pretty damn well. Long term? Not os much. |
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I see you've been on this board only a year before me but seem to run your pie hole a hell of a lot more than me by your post count. I just repeated a FOX REPORT. nothing more. I do not exaggerate my posts. I found the news interesting. I never said Obama was going to start a war to stay in office. Quoted:
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I would like to ask site staff that whenever anyone who mindlessly shills for a foreign power on this web board have bullshit light that illuminates. I mean, if this was 1943 would we like having Tokyo Rose post gems like the OP? I see you've been on this board only a year before me but seem to run your pie hole a hell of a lot more than me by your post count. I just repeated a FOX REPORT. nothing more. I do not exaggerate my posts. I found the news interesting. I never said Obama was going to start a war to stay in office. When you say things like The U.S. is actually in Syria illegally supporting rebels against the rightful goverment. I'll let the chips fall where they may.. |
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Like Ukraine stability? Or Georgia stability? Because Russia hasn't exported stability since, ever. Quoted:
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Yes. This is shockingly bad foreign policy. We are actively trying to maintain this war by backing meager forces which cannot win and likely are simply constructs to get access to our weapons and cash. A side benefit is that we're risking war with Russia in order to prevent them from establishing stability. Like Ukraine stability? Or Georgia stability? Because Russia hasn't exported stability since, ever. Russia has had a stable, friendly relationship with Syria for over 70 years and a naval installation at Tartus for 45 years. Unfortunately, they're not the ones stirring the pot in Syria. |
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Obama doesn't have the balls to do that Quoted:
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If Trump wins, Zero will quickly declare war and get a third term. Obama doesn't have the balls to do that World War III and Civil War 2.0 at home. Have you seen the way he throws a ball? There's no way. |
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Like Ukraine stability? Or Georgia stability? Because Russia hasn't exported stability since, ever. Quoted:
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Yes. This is shockingly bad foreign policy. We are actively trying to maintain this war by backing meager forces which cannot win and likely are simply constructs to get access to our weapons and cash. A side benefit is that we're risking war with Russia in order to prevent them from establishing stability. Like Ukraine stability? Or Georgia stability? Because Russia hasn't exported stability since, ever. As noted, this isn't true. Additionally, our would-be involvement is a politically motivated fantasy based on removal of the most stable government and installation of a western friendly puppet comprised of friendly radicals. This isn't just bad policy, it's absolutely insane. |
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You guys with the "Obama won't leave, he'll declare himself permanent Emperor" crack me up.... you were saying the same thing in 2000, when Bill Clinton was leaving office. And the left-wing paranoids were saying the same shit about Bush in 2008. This. Oh I believe Obama could fuck things up and start another war, because, well, he's a fuck up. But he is leaving at the end of his term. |