Posted: 6/13/2003 11:04:43 AM EDT
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What do you guys think? ATN Illuminated 6-18x65 on top of a 16" Oly SUM 5.56? [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/bigscope.jpg[/img] Actually, that scope will be going on top of the PTR-91 I just picked up once I get all the parts together to make it into a PSG-1-like rifle. The Oly will probably get an OK Reflex and a set of folding iron sights. Or maybe a somewhat smaller scope. [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/dpms16.jpg[/img] But even that looks like too much scope. That's a 6.5-20x50 to give you some idea of how huge the ATN scope is. [;)] Too many toys and too rainy to go to the range [}:)] |
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Quoted: Try shooting a moving target with it. Or picking a target up quick with it in a cluttered environment. Target gun only. You did read the part that says that scope isn't staying on that rifle, right? It's a bit of humor on a day of miserable weather. This is the "reach out and touch someone" AR. Last range trip we were cutting the heads off of bowling pins at ~ 200 meters and decided it was just too easy. I had planned to put better optics on it, but the combo has worked incredibly well, so I plan to leave it as is until the scope dies. [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/cavblack.jpg[/img] |
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Quoted: 1" tube? Looks small. You need one of the coke can tube extensions hung off the end of it. Who cares what it looks like? How does it shoot? 30mm tube. I doubt I'll ever find out how that particular combo shoots, since I have otherplans for the scope [;)] Coke can? You mean like this? [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/bvss.jpg[/img] |
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Quoted: Quoted: Another vote for too little rifle. Slap a 50 BMG under that hunk of glass. The ATN scopes might hold up fine on a mouse gun but they have a horrible reputation with 50 shooters. Go over to Biggerhammer.net and ask them what they think. I had one for a short while. My sales rep took it back and gave me credit. Problems... 1---wouldn't focus worth a fuck at distance. 2---lens coating had numerous runs 3---inner lens had large amount of debris clinging to them. 4---No AO---how do you adj for parallax/focus? 5---ocular when adjusted (just starting to clean up focus but not clear yet) would make the reticle disappear. I see the importers at gunshows so I check out the scopes. Still no improvement in quality (IMHO). The scopes sure do look bitchin tho...! PS---wholesale price was $290.00 |
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I definately learned the difference between a "decent" scope, and a "not-so-decent" scope... I always told myself: "How much difference COULD there possibly be from one mfg to another ?" The answer is HUGE... I always used cheap optics, thinking they were all alike. I honestly never looked through the ATN scopes, so I really can't comment on them, other than the obvious HUGE factor.[:D] On the other hand, I can comment on the optics used in BSA and Simmons stuff... I never knew what I was missing, until I mounted a Nikon 6.5-20x44 scope on my AR10A4... 300yards is crystal clear with sharp focus at 20x... I think it's very much like a high dollar Leupold, but at half the price.($399) I look through my 45x BSA spotting scope, and see nothing but dark haze... |
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Quoted: I definately learned the difference between a "decent" scope, and a "not-so-decent" scope... I always told myself: "How much difference COULD there possibly be from one mfg to another ?" The answer is HUGE.... The same thing applys to holsters. Once you go to a good one, you will never want a $10-$30 piece of plastic or crappy leather again. As for telescopic optics, I'll buy no more until I have the cash to get a Leupold 3.5-10 M1 or M3. (unless I luck into something better for a similar price) |
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Quoted: How's the cheek weld on that rifle? What cheek weld? [):)] With those extra high rings, there is no cheek weld. I've got a couple sets of lower 30mm rings I'll try before I actually shoot it; if I can't get the scope low enough I'll switch to a smaller scope. |
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Ok, I got it a bunch lower with these rings, but I'll need to call ATN and see if it's safe to use mounted like this. Cheap lace on pad lets me get a good weld, I ordered an MSG-90 stock about a week ago; hopefully it'll show up eventually. Got a line on a PSG-1 trigger group, and wide forearm and bipod are already ordered. [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/ptr91atn2.jpg[/img] |