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Posted: 10/15/2016 6:03:26 PM EDT
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Just got finished with this. Netflix is cranking out some great content. I enjoyed it all politics aside.
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Posted: 10/15/2016 6:39:22 PM EDT
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I canceled Netflix last January because lack of interest. Fired it back up this month to catch up an Narcos and see what Stranger Things was about. A few good movies to see like the one being talked about here, but I'll probably cancel when this month is up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is Netflix worth a shit again? I canceled Netflix last January because lack of interest. Fired it back up this month to catch up an Narcos and see what Stranger Things was about. A few good movies to see like the one being talked about here, but I'll probably cancel when this month is up. Narcos is bubblegum faggotry compared to El Padron de Mal. Just fyi |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 8:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Narcos is bubblegum faggotry compared to El Padron de Mal. Just fyi Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is Netflix worth a shit again? I canceled Netflix last January because lack of interest. Fired it back up this month to catch up an Narcos and see what Stranger Things was about. A few good movies to see like the one being talked about here, but I'll probably cancel when this month is up. Narcos is bubblegum faggotry compared to El Padron de Mal. Just fyi |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 7:24:32 PM EDT
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Watching this movie made me dust off my British FAL and take her out to the range. I'd forgotten what a pleasure it is to shoot.
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Posted: 10/16/2016 7:28:26 PM EDT
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I watched it for the FAL's, I was not disappointed.
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Posted: 10/16/2016 7:31:01 PM EDT
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Great flick, but I lol'd when they pulled an 8mm bullet out of his shoulder with a knife
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:52:18 PM EDT
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Great flick, but I lol'd when they pulled an 8mm bullet out of his shoulder with a knife Notice how after they pulled it out they didn't bandage him, he stopped bleeding (not that he bled much to begin with), and the wound affected him no worse than a mosquito bite, and remained unbandaged and untreated through captivity all the way to Ireland? |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 11:35:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Notice how after they pulled it out they didn't bandage him, he stopped bleeding (not that he bled much to begin with), and the wound affected him no worse than a mosquito bite, and remained unbandaged and untreated through captivity all the way to Ireland? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great flick, but I lol'd when they pulled an 8mm bullet out of his shoulder with a knife Notice how after they pulled it out they didn't bandage him, he stopped bleeding (not that he bled much to begin with), and the wound affected him no worse than a mosquito bite, and remained unbandaged and untreated through captivity all the way to Ireland? Didn't ruin it, but part of why it is a 7 rather than a 9 out of ten. |
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Posted: 10/17/2016 4:22:15 AM EDT
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One of the three really dumb things in the movie. Didn't ruin it, but part of why it is a 7 rather than a 9 out of ten. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great flick, but I lol'd when they pulled an 8mm bullet out of his shoulder with a knife Notice how after they pulled it out they didn't bandage him, he stopped bleeding (not that he bled much to begin with), and the wound affected him no worse than a mosquito bite, and remained unbandaged and untreated through captivity all the way to Ireland? Didn't ruin it, but part of why it is a 7 rather than a 9 out of ten. We Irish are tough and we can take a bullet 
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:09:54 AM EDT
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I heard the Wilhelm scream a few times lol
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:42:13 AM EDT
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I learned a BREN gun on single shot is a better choice than a bolt action sniper rifle for taking out important targets.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:51:25 AM EDT
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Did they really deploy with FAL's, Enfield #4's, Bren guns and Carl Gustav smg's in this be incident? Or was that the Hollywood effect?
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Posted: 10/18/2016 12:55:30 AM EDT
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I learned a BREN gun on single shot is a better choice than a bolt action sniper rifle for taking out important targets. and he fires it single shot from the left shoulder... at least the mag isnt in it I guess sights offset to the right and all... still dont get why they did that whole scene |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:01:00 AM EDT
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I am rooting for the Irish. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/18/2016 1:21:35 AM EDT
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Did they really deploy with FAL's, Enfield #4's, Bren guns and Carl Gustav smg's in this be incident? Or was that the Hollywood effect? I had thought that they used No. 1s, since that was the standard before the FAL, but apparently they got some basically new No. 4s in the 1950s and deployed with those (Lee-Enfields in general were indeed used). The FAL was the replacement for the Lee-Enfield and were used and looked very similar in configuration to the ones in the movie. They also did use the Swedish K. I may be remembering wrong, but they were provided by the Swedes to some of the other UN troops that were part of ONUC. Brens and Vickers machine guns are also accurate. The opposing force's firearms are mostly, but not entirely, correct. They also did not have Carl Gustav recoilless guns; it was actually the Irish that had them and used them very effectively. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 2:10:06 AM EDT
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I had thought that they used No. 1s, since that was the standard before the FAL, but apparently they got some basically new No. 4s in the 1950s and deployed with those (Lee-Enfields in general were indeed used). The FAL was the replacement for the Lee-Enfield and were used and looked very similar in configuration to the ones in the movie. They also did use the Swedish K. I may be remembering wrong, but they were provided by the Swedes to some of the other UN troops that were part of ONUC. Brens and Vickers machine guns are also accurate. The opposing force's firearms are mostly, but not entirely, correct. They also did not have Carl Gustav recoilless guns; it was actually the Irish that had them and used them very effectively. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did they really deploy with FAL's, Enfield #4's, Bren guns and Carl Gustav smg's in this be incident? Or was that the Hollywood effect? I had thought that they used No. 1s, since that was the standard before the FAL, but apparently they got some basically new No. 4s in the 1950s and deployed with those (Lee-Enfields in general were indeed used). The FAL was the replacement for the Lee-Enfield and were used and looked very similar in configuration to the ones in the movie. They also did use the Swedish K. I may be remembering wrong, but they were provided by the Swedes to some of the other UN troops that were part of ONUC. Brens and Vickers machine guns are also accurate. The opposing force's firearms are mostly, but not entirely, correct. They also did not have Carl Gustav recoilless guns; it was actually the Irish that had them and used them very effectively. I don't know the origin of the Gustav SMG in Ireland, but it was certainly still on common issue in the late 90s for NCOs. Known as the most dangerous weapon in the Army. As an aside, we almost always call things by manufacturer, and not model. So it's "FN", "Steyr", "Panhard", "MOWAG", "Browning," instead of FAL, AUG, AML, Pirhana or, Hi-Power for example. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 2:23:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're racist. Please board the train for re-education. I'm torn about the movie given I love a good war movie but the historical skew is off. I got a sobering education from our newest bible study family from South Africa, it's hell with European walled cites. What they dealt with was scary. Compounds, armed security, transport, bodyguards for the kids going to the schools. We have no point of reference. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Best thing to happen to Africa was colonization. Worst to to happen to Africa was de-colonzation. I'm torn about the movie given I love a good war movie but the historical skew is off. I got a sobering education from our newest bible study family from South Africa, it's hell with European walled cites. What they dealt with was scary. Compounds, armed security, transport, bodyguards for the kids going to the schools. We have no point of reference. Yet. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 2:29:16 AM EDT
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Maybe this was answered but, why did the sniper put aside his scoped Enfield to single load an iron sighted Bren to hit the Belgian? I have a hard time believing the Bren was more accurate at distance.
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Posted: 10/19/2016 6:31:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe this was answered but, why did the sniper put aside his scoped Enfield to single load an iron sighted Bren to hit the Belgian? I have a hard time believing the Bren was more accurate at distance. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 6:45:00 AM EDT
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Maybe this was answered but, why did the sniper put aside his scoped Enfield to single load an iron sighted Bren to hit the Belgian? I have a hard time believing the Bren was more accurate at distance. Someone probably thought it would look cool. Looks stupid to anyone who knows better. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 7:11:41 AM EDT
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It was also a scene to show that the evil white capitalist is running the show and using those poor native blacks as cannon fodder. It was to push UN bullshit.
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Posted: 10/19/2016 7:17:38 AM EDT
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It was also a scene to show that the evil white capitalist is running the show and using those poor native blacks as cannon fodder. It was to push UN bullshit. Oh, absolutely. Evil capitalists, corporations, neocolonialists, whites, etc. UN good and noble, but incompetent (except for the Irishmen). It was ridiculous and completely ahistorical. What's funny is how closely the narrative of the movie matches O'Brien's editorial and the strongly Leftist propaganda contained therein that I posted earlier. The movie went even further and portrayed Tshombe as some general who led a coup. Notice how they always call him "general". Tshombe was never in the military. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 7:51:12 AM EDT
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Watched it the other night.. it was Meh...
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Posted: 10/19/2016 7:53:46 AM EDT
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Hollywood softening up the troops for the UN?
What was the last feel good movie about the UN? The UN looks like us..... |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 7:57:20 AM EDT
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It was a great movie! Wow one of the better movies in the last few years. I'm biased as I grew up reading sof
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Posted: 10/19/2016 8:00:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, absolutely. Evil capitalists, corporations, neocolonialists, whites, etc. UN good and noble, but incompetent (except for the Irishmen). It was ridiculous and completely ahistorical. What's funny is how closely the narrative of the movie matches O'Brien's editorial and the strongly Leftist propaganda contained therein that I posted earlier. The movie went even further and portrayed Tshombe as some general who led a coup. Notice how they always call him "general". Tshombe was never in the military. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was also a scene to show that the evil white capitalist is running the show and using those poor native blacks as cannon fodder. It was to push UN bullshit. Oh, absolutely. Evil capitalists, corporations, neocolonialists, whites, etc. UN good and noble, but incompetent (except for the Irishmen). It was ridiculous and completely ahistorical. What's funny is how closely the narrative of the movie matches O'Brien's editorial and the strongly Leftist propaganda contained therein that I posted earlier. The movie went even further and portrayed Tshombe as some general who led a coup. Notice how they always call him "general". Tshombe was never in the military. I always use American motor industry as an example. What is better, a foreign car maker hiring Americans to build cars in America or an American car maker moving work to Mexico. Tshombe knew that it was better to have foreign-owned companies provide employment in Katanga then it was to have no industry at all. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 8:31:37 AM EDT
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Narcos is bubblegum faggotry compared to El Padron de Mal. Just fyi Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is Netflix worth a shit again? I canceled Netflix last January because lack of interest. Fired it back up this month to catch up an Narcos and see what Stranger Things was about. A few good movies to see like the one being talked about here, but I'll probably cancel when this month is up. Narcos is bubblegum faggotry compared to El Padron de Mal. Just fyi I will check that out. Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 9:10:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hollywood softening up the troops for the UN? What was the last feel good movie about the UN? The UN looks like us..... I think it was about a group of soldiers that got left out to dry. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 9:11:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone probably thought it would look cool. Looks stupid to anyone who knows better. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe this was answered but, why did the sniper put aside his scoped Enfield to single load an iron sighted Bren to hit the Belgian? I have a hard time believing the Bren was more accurate at distance. Someone probably thought it would look cool. Looks stupid to anyone who knows better. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 9:13:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know the origin of the Gustav SMG in Ireland, but it was certainly still on common issue in the late 90s for NCOs. Known as the most dangerous weapon in the Army. As an aside, we almost always call things by manufacturer, and not model. So it's "FN", "Steyr", "Panhard", "MOWAG", "Browning," instead of FAL, AUG, AML, Pirhana or, Hi-Power for example. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did they really deploy with FAL's, Enfield #4's, Bren guns and Carl Gustav smg's in this be incident? Or was that the Hollywood effect? I had thought that they used No. 1s, since that was the standard before the FAL, but apparently they got some basically new No. 4s in the 1950s and deployed with those (Lee-Enfields in general were indeed used). The FAL was the replacement for the Lee-Enfield and were used and looked very similar in configuration to the ones in the movie. They also did use the Swedish K. I may be remembering wrong, but they were provided by the Swedes to some of the other UN troops that were part of ONUC. Brens and Vickers machine guns are also accurate. The opposing force's firearms are mostly, but not entirely, correct. They also did not have Carl Gustav recoilless guns; it was actually the Irish that had them and used them very effectively. I don't know the origin of the Gustav SMG in Ireland, but it was certainly still on common issue in the late 90s for NCOs. Known as the most dangerous weapon in the Army. As an aside, we almost always call things by manufacturer, and not model. So it's "FN", "Steyr", "Panhard", "MOWAG", "Browning," instead of FAL, AUG, AML, Pirhana or, Hi-Power for example. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 10:56:49 AM EDT
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Maybe this was answered but, why did the sniper put aside his scoped Enfield to single load an iron sighted Bren to hit the Belgian? I have a hard time believing the Bren was more accurate at distance. Yeah. That was one of the few moments in the movie.
But I enjoyed it, over all. I had never heard of this incident. Not sure there was a "right" side of the whole shit storm. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 10:58:30 AM EDT
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It was also a scene to show that the evil white capitalist is running the show and using those poor native blacks as cannon fodder. It was to push UN bullshit. The whites were mercs hired by the whites who owned the mines and got fucked when the new leadership came into power and nationalized them. Blacks would have been cannon fodder either way. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:53:36 AM EDT
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good movie... not a great one. still i thought it was interesting enough to buy a few books about the subject
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Posted: 10/19/2016 12:23:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whites were mercs hired by the whites who owned the mines and got fucked when the new leadership came into power and nationalized them. Blacks would have been cannon fodder either way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was also a scene to show that the evil white capitalist is running the show and using those poor native blacks as cannon fodder. It was to push UN bullshit. The whites were mercs hired by the whites who owned the mines and got fucked when the new leadership came into power and nationalized them. Blacks would have been cannon fodder either way. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 12:53:32 PM EDT
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The native born Whites Belgian settlers say otherwise. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was also a scene to show that the evil white capitalist is running the show and using those poor native blacks as cannon fodder. It was to push UN bullshit. The whites were mercs hired by the whites who owned the mines and got fucked when the new leadership came into power and nationalized them. Blacks would have been cannon fodder either way. Not following. Like I said, I didn't know anything about this spec in history. Was just my impression from the movie which could be totally false. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 1:07:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not following. Like I said, I didn't know anything about this spec in history. Was just my impression from the movie which could be totally false. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It was also a scene to show that the evil white capitalist is running the show and using those poor native blacks as cannon fodder. It was to push UN bullshit. The whites were mercs hired by the whites who owned the mines and got fucked when the new leadership came into power and nationalized them. Blacks would have been cannon fodder either way. Not following. Like I said, I didn't know anything about this spec in history. Was just my impression from the movie which could be totally false. France and Belgium did second some officers to Katanga and there were Mercs hired by the Katangagese Government. But there was a population of Belgian White Congolese. They were either born there or settlers and were Katangagese citizens. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 1:14:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching this movie made me dust off my British FAL and take her out to the range. I'd forgotten what a pleasure it is to shoot. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/Fabrique%20Nationale/Range%20in%20October%20020%203%20800x523_zpskciolkoo.jpg I don't own an FAL. But I do wish I owned one of those. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 1:24:38 PM EDT
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Errr....I got to the first shoot out scene and shut it off. Terrible acting, terrible filming.
It's like a really shitty version of ZULU (which is a great movie). |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 2:40:51 PM EDT
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Errr....I got to the first shoot out scene and shut it off. Terrible acting, terrible filming. Yet I'll bet you watch Red Dawn
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Posted: 10/19/2016 9:43:20 PM EDT
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Lol, What do you do if you have two different items from the same manufacturer? Seems to depend on what came first. The GMPG, for example, was called "The MAG" but it came into service after the FAL which had already been called the "FN" That said, the Scorpion CVR(T) was never called "Alvis" so it's not a hard rule. But the XA-180 was "SISU", the L-180 the "Landsverk", the 40mm ADA gun just "The Bofors" and so on and so forth. I've been having a bit of a think more about the Bren thing and it may not be quite as fanciful as it at first seems, other than the missing frontsight. Believe it or not, the first MG I was ever trained on was the .303 Bren, it still being in reserve service in the late 1990s, and I've never heard anyone complain about its accuracy. The rate of fire was so slow that we did not usually fire in bursts. When it came to the annual shooting competitions, many a team would come a cropper because of the way the rules discouraged firing more than two rounds at a time (They'd put 15 rounds in a magazine, people would forget to fire a three-round burst and you'd have an illegal single shot fired). I believe the British had a similar problem with the L86 LSW, which was so accurate with its bipod and long barrel that instead of being used as a sustained fire area effect weapon, the troops started using them as precision rifles. I can see an argument that a heavy bipod mounted iron sight weapon can an appealing option at a certain range over a free-held rifle, even if that rifle has an optic. I don't recall anyone on the Irish boards objecting to the scene, and they probably got the idea from somewhere. I'll try digging a bit more. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 5:08:38 AM EDT
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Seems to depend on what came first. The GMPG, for example, was called "The MAG" but it came into service after the FAL which had already been called the "FN" That said, the Scorpion CVR(T) was never called "Alvis" so it's not a hard rule. But the XA-180 was "SISU", the L-180 the "Landsverk", the 40mm ADA gun just "The Bofors" and so on and so forth. I've been having a bit of a think more about the Bren thing and it may not be quite as fanciful as it at first seems, other than the missing frontsight. Believe it or not, the first MG I was ever trained on was the .303 Bren, it still being in reserve service in the late 1990s, and I've never heard anyone complain about its accuracy. The rate of fire was so slow that we did not usually fire in bursts. When it came to the annual shooting competitions, many a team would come a cropper because of the way the rules discouraged firing more than two rounds at a time (They'd put 15 rounds in a magazine, people would forget to fire a three-round burst and you'd have an illegal single shot fired). I believe the British had a similar problem with the L86 LSW, which was so accurate with its bipod and long barrel that instead of being used as a sustained fire area effect weapon, the troops started using them as precision rifles. I can see an argument that a heavy bipod mounted iron sight weapon can an appealing option at a certain range over a free-held rifle, even if that rifle has an optic. I don't recall anyone on the Irish boards objecting to the scene, and they probably got the idea from somewhere. I'll try digging a bit more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol, What do you do if you have two different items from the same manufacturer? Seems to depend on what came first. The GMPG, for example, was called "The MAG" but it came into service after the FAL which had already been called the "FN" That said, the Scorpion CVR(T) was never called "Alvis" so it's not a hard rule. But the XA-180 was "SISU", the L-180 the "Landsverk", the 40mm ADA gun just "The Bofors" and so on and so forth. I've been having a bit of a think more about the Bren thing and it may not be quite as fanciful as it at first seems, other than the missing frontsight. Believe it or not, the first MG I was ever trained on was the .303 Bren, it still being in reserve service in the late 1990s, and I've never heard anyone complain about its accuracy. The rate of fire was so slow that we did not usually fire in bursts. When it came to the annual shooting competitions, many a team would come a cropper because of the way the rules discouraged firing more than two rounds at a time (They'd put 15 rounds in a magazine, people would forget to fire a three-round burst and you'd have an illegal single shot fired). I believe the British had a similar problem with the L86 LSW, which was so accurate with its bipod and long barrel that instead of being used as a sustained fire area effect weapon, the troops started using them as precision rifles. I can see an argument that a heavy bipod mounted iron sight weapon can an appealing option at a certain range over a free-held rifle, even if that rifle has an optic. I don't recall anyone on the Irish boards objecting to the scene, and they probably got the idea from somewhere. I'll try digging a bit more. The LSW did end up as a DMR. That said, when the Army run their section attack and LMG matches at Bisley, it's common to see the LSWs being used instead of the Minimi, no doubt due to their accuracy |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:13:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to depend on what came first. The GMPG, for example, was called "The MAG" but it came into service after the FAL which had already been called the "FN" That said, the Scorpion CVR(T) was never called "Alvis" so it's not a hard rule. But the XA-180 was "SISU", the L-180 the "Landsverk", the 40mm ADA gun just "The Bofors" and so on and so forth. I've been having a bit of a think more about the Bren thing and it may not be quite as fanciful as it at first seems, other than the missing frontsight. Believe it or not, the first MG I was ever trained on was the .303 Bren, it still being in reserve service in the late 1990s, and I've never heard anyone complain about its accuracy. The rate of fire was so slow that we did not usually fire in bursts. When it came to the annual shooting competitions, many a team would come a cropper because of the way the rules discouraged firing more than two rounds at a time (They'd put 15 rounds in a magazine, people would forget to fire a three-round burst and you'd have an illegal single shot fired). I believe the British had a similar problem with the L86 LSW, which was so accurate with its bipod and long barrel that instead of being used as a sustained fire area effect weapon, the troops started using them as precision rifles. I can see an argument that a heavy bipod mounted iron sight weapon can an appealing option at a certain range over a free-held rifle, even if that rifle has an optic. I don't recall anyone on the Irish boards objecting to the scene, and they probably got the idea from somewhere. I'll try digging a bit more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol, What do you do if you have two different items from the same manufacturer? Seems to depend on what came first. The GMPG, for example, was called "The MAG" but it came into service after the FAL which had already been called the "FN" That said, the Scorpion CVR(T) was never called "Alvis" so it's not a hard rule. But the XA-180 was "SISU", the L-180 the "Landsverk", the 40mm ADA gun just "The Bofors" and so on and so forth. I've been having a bit of a think more about the Bren thing and it may not be quite as fanciful as it at first seems, other than the missing frontsight. Believe it or not, the first MG I was ever trained on was the .303 Bren, it still being in reserve service in the late 1990s, and I've never heard anyone complain about its accuracy. The rate of fire was so slow that we did not usually fire in bursts. When it came to the annual shooting competitions, many a team would come a cropper because of the way the rules discouraged firing more than two rounds at a time (They'd put 15 rounds in a magazine, people would forget to fire a three-round burst and you'd have an illegal single shot fired). I believe the British had a similar problem with the L86 LSW, which was so accurate with its bipod and long barrel that instead of being used as a sustained fire area effect weapon, the troops started using them as precision rifles. I can see an argument that a heavy bipod mounted iron sight weapon can an appealing option at a certain range over a free-held rifle, even if that rifle has an optic. I don't recall anyone on the Irish boards objecting to the scene, and they probably got the idea from somewhere. I'll try digging a bit more. You and big stick have made this thread. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:38:55 PM EDT
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The Bren shot...
HVT dressed in white at a known distance? Have to make a first round hit before they get back into cover? HVT might make or break the engagement? I would have taken the adjustable iron sights on a heavy stable bi-pod mounted weapon vs the single post garbage scope too.  |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 12:19:16 AM EDT
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The use of No.4s instead of No.1s would seem to be the bigger technical goof as far as the Irish weapons go. I'm not an Enfield specialist (I own a No 4 though), and I can check on the Irish military sites, but I'm not convinced by that. Isn't the protruding barrel an indicator of a No 4? http://66.media.tumblr.com/a40420d5773ca9e70211889fff99a603/tumblr_mvpr7ylV491rcoy9ro1_1280.jpg Osprey's "Modern African Wars: Congo 1960-2002" (Peter Abbot) specifies the British MkIII helmet, the 37 pattern webbing, and the No 4 rifle. Don't get me wrong, I believe the No1 MkIII was the standard rifle for reserves until the FAL showed up in the 80s, but it does seem possible that the Congo troops got the latest batch of the things? In fact something is telling me that one in the center of the pic is a Mk II. Those Those wool uniforms would suck in Africa. Those are indeed No. 4s and look brand new. Ireland must have bought some from Britain after the war. Kind of surprising. No. 1 was definitely the standard, inherited from the British. I had a irish contract No 4 Mk II made in iirc 1954 or 1955 back in the late 90's. It was brand new, never unwrapped or fired. Looked fresh from the assembly line. That was a sweeet MFer Those UF prefix unissued Fazakerly No4s that were imported in the 90s were often called "Irish Contract" rifles but I understand they were not actually part of the group sold to Ireland. I have twoI might sell soon, and there was just a thread in GD about them. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 12:32:06 AM EDT
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Watched it last night. Absolutely enjoyed it. I think Netflix did a great job.
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Posted: 10/26/2016 11:50:58 AM EDT
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Watched it last night, I thought it was a very good movie.
Kind of baffled about the guy in the white suit. Squirrel, lol |
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Posted: 10/29/2016 10:48:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the three really dumb things in the movie. Didn't ruin it, but part of why it is a 7 rather than a 9 out of ten. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Great flick, but I lol'd when they pulled an 8mm bullet out of his shoulder with a knife Notice how after they pulled it out they didn't bandage him, he stopped bleeding (not that he bled much to begin with), and the wound affected him no worse than a mosquito bite, and remained unbandaged and untreated through captivity all the way to Ireland? Didn't ruin it, but part of why it is a 7 rather than a 9 out of ten. Thought flipping the truck over to shoot the mounted machinegun at the plane was clever. It was better than I thought, you guys seems lukewarm but I was cheering on the plucky Irishmen. |
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Posted: 10/29/2016 11:48:41 AM EDT
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I don't cheer for UN backed missions that spread Marxism.
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Posted: 10/29/2016 12:06:53 PM EDT
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Any suggested reading material on this or any of the stuff that happened in Africa over the last century? My knowledge on this is incredibly limited.
A quick look at Amazon brings up dozens, if not hundreds of books. I'm not sure if there might not be some standouts I should focus on. May need to hit up the local library and see if the have anything at all. |
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Posted: 10/29/2016 3:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any suggested reading material on this or any of the stuff that happened in Africa over the last century? My knowledge on this is incredibly limited. A quick look at Amazon brings up dozens, if not hundreds of books. I'm not sure if there might not be some standouts I should focus on. May need to hit up the local library and see if the have anything at all. Any of the books about this guy or stuff googled online will lead in tons of directions for research since he was in the thick of it. |
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