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Posted: 6/6/2003 10:01:34 AM EDT
I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!!! [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,88770,00.html[/url] NEWBURGH, N.Y. — Police say a mother and her two sons beat a teacher unconscious at school with a desk and a chair because she had suspended the younger boy. The teacher, who works in an alternative school program for troubled youth, had suspended the boy for spitting in her face and pushing her, police said. Jamie Mereness, 34, and her 17-year-old son William Ramos, went with her 12-year-old son to the school Tuesday afternoon to confront the teacher, who was not identified, police said Thursday. Police said Mereness, Ramos and the younger son choked and punched the teacher, then used a desk and a chair to beat her in a basement classroom, Detective Lt. Santo Centamore said. The alternative school program is held in a church. The victim's 11-year-old son was in the classroom at the time and ran to a pay phone across the street to call police, Centamore said. Mereness and her sons were gone when police arrived. The victim was treated at St. Luke's Hospital for bruises on her face and neck and pain in her back, neck and arm, and released, Centamore said. Mereness and both sons were arrested Wednesday and charged with felony burglary and assault. Mereness had not been assigned a lawyer Friday, and her phone number is not listed. The 12-year-old will be charged in family court, said Assistant District Attorney John Geidel.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:08:24 AM EDT
That'll teach that mean ol' teacher not to suspend a decent young man, won't it?
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:10:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:18:59 AM EDT
Yet another reason why guns SHOULD be allowed on campus.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:45:47 AM EDT
34yo mom and a 17yo son. So she was a 17yo mother? Lovely.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 11:07:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: ...300 pound retarded students. Students who absolutely refuse to listen. ETC.
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Hey, I was kind of slow, but retarded, I would not go that far.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 11:08:20 AM EDT
Throw the mother and the son in the federal pen and stick the 12 year-old in juvy. The kid was already on his last chance, to bad, he blew it and so did the other members of this family.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 12:19:43 PM EDT
Surprised they released the name of the kid. Glad they did because it gives me a chance to draw a conclusion. Where's the father? Once again, we have women raising boys and the boys turning into societal miscreants. When are these women going to learn? Do they really want their children turning out like their "babies daddy?"
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 12:30:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rileyindy: Do they really want their children turning out like their "babies daddy?"
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I believe the correct term is "baby daddy". Usually pronounced as one word. Babydaddy. At least that's what I hear on the Maury and Ricki shows. Not that I watch those.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 12:36:12 PM EDT
Some folks just need killin'.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 12:40:27 PM EDT
And this, people, is why sterilization is GOOD. Anyone mentally incapable of raising kids shouldnt be able to have kids. This is the type of family that makes me wish people were required to have a license/permit to have a child(or face forced abortion).
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 12:46:37 PM EDT
Going to hug my wife a little longer tonight. She taught in a BD school before she got pregnant. Forget prison... Feed the frickin hogs...
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 12:57:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Originally Posted By rileyindy: Do they really want their children turning out like their "babies daddy?"
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I believe the correct term is "baby daddy". Usually pronounced as one word. Babydaddy. At least that's what I hear on the Maury and Ricki shows. Not that I watch those.
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Incorrect! The correct terms are brood mares and sperm donors.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 1:03:50 PM EDT
ArmdLbrl: I just read your rationalization of the welfare system in the socialism thread. I'm surprised you didn't suggest that if these people had gotten a big enough check from the government this wouldn't have happened. I know this will probably tick you off, but there are some factors here that are painfully obvious. 1. Children who are not taught how to behave properly and respect others (There is no way my parents would have tolerated that behavior from me). 2. Children who obviously are not held accountable and disciplined by parents. This is the most common form of child abuse (not disciplining them). 3. A woman who is obviously unfit to be a proper mother being allowed to breed (I'm not sure what we can do to fix this trend, but sheesh, I see it every day).
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 1:03:59 PM EDT
There is a serious problem with the mentally ill in this country. They wave knives at theater patrons and police, get themselves killed and their mom gets a $500,000.00 payday from the city.
Police said Idriss Stelley, 23, had waved a knife on a chain during a screening of "Swordfish" in one of the complex's theaters June 13, 2001. He threatened other patrons, wasn't slowed by pepper spray and sliced the uniform of one officer before he was shot, police said.
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Link Posted: 6/6/2003 1:41:43 PM EDT
God that is messed up. What the hell is happening to the world. When I was growing up it was the teacher and parent against the student. If I got suspended my folks wanted to know why I did something to get suspended. Discpline really is going right out the window..........
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 2:15:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By IYAOYAS467: God that is messed up. What the hell is happening to the world. When I was growing up it was the teacher and parent against the student. If I got suspended my folks wanted to know why I did something to get suspended. Discpline really is going right out the window..........
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Not discipline, responsibility. Everyone's a victim, and it's no one's fault.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 2:20:36 PM EDT
Think it's bad now wait another ten years... The liberals and socialists running the skool systems are going to get a taste of their social engineering medicine in a bad way... It's just about that time...
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 2:26:34 PM EDT
Look these people are just misunderstood...
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 2:36:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Brohawk: ArmdLbrl: I just read your rationalization of the welfare system in the socialism thread. I'm surprised you didn't suggest that if these people had gotten a big enough check from the government this wouldn't have happened. I know this will probably tick you off, but there are some factors here that are painfully obvious. 1. Children who are not taught how to behave properly and respect others (There is no way my parents would have tolerated that behavior from me). 2. Children who obviously are not held accountable and disciplined by parents. This is the most common form of child abuse (not disciplining them). 3. A woman who is obviously unfit to be a proper mother being allowed to breed (I'm not sure what we can do to fix this trend, but sheesh, I see it every day).
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No, you obviously did NOT read my posts in StyerAUGs thread. Nothing I posted remotely resembles what you are implying.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 2:38:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tonys68l36: Look these people are just misunderstood...
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Yeah, right [rolleyes] Fact is OUR concept of morality, of respect for others and the law, goes right over these peoples heads. They live in a society that is a negative image of what most of us live in.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 2:50:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl:
Originally Posted By Tonys68l36: Look these people are just misunderstood...
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Yeah, right [rolleyes] Fact is OUR concept of morality, of respect for others and the law, goes right over these peoples heads. They live in a society that is a negative image of what most of us live in.
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I was being a smarty-pants [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 11:13:52 PM EDT
I bet $100 the mother is a liberal-democrat who doesnt believe in spanking her child.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 11:20:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mayday: I bet $100 the mother is a liberal-democrat who doesnt believe in spanking her child.
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I'll bet you double that that she has never voted and beat the crap out of the kid till it was old enough to beat her back. We just expelled a kid like this a couple months ago. We deal with violent behavior problem kids and have only expelled two kids in the eight years I've been at the school, but this kid was a serious safety risk and went after one of our female teachers with scissors meaning to cut her badly. Well, we call the cops, they take him away, then mom shows up. No concern over the behavior of her kid but threatens our staff with bodily harm and that her whole family would come down and go to town on us. Luckily she is a dumbshit and did it right in front of the cops. In our nation we are raising a rather significant portion of our population to be sociopaths. Kids receive no discipline and suffer no consequences for their actions. It is turning out exactly as Heinlien said it would in Starship Troopers. The delinquents will eventually overrun and destroy the nation.
Link Posted: 6/7/2003 12:53:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mw365:
Originally Posted By IYAOYAS467: God that is messed up. What the hell is happening to the world. When I was growing up it was the teacher and parent against the student. If I got suspended my folks wanted to know why I did something to get suspended. Discpline really is going right out the window..........
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Not discipline, responsibility. Everyone's a victim, and it's no one's fault.
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Sorry mate your selling but I'm not buying. While I do agree that responsibility has an integral part to play, this whole thing reeks of lack of discpline on behalf of the parents and their inability to instill some into their kids.
Link Posted: 6/7/2003 1:58:05 AM EDT
Just got to vent a little on this one. I've got a 25 year old step daughter, and a 19 year old step son. Their mother tried her best to discipline them when growing up. Their father NEVER once backed her on her efforts. They were told that when it came to cleaning the house doing chores, homework, etc. That they did not have to do it if they didn't want to, and that the house and yard was moms job. He went to work, and came home and sat on the couch and expected to be waited on. That is what his mom did for his dad. Needless to say she left. Over the years, she has received a pretty decent inheritance when her parent died, and in her divorce, she received fair settlement. He shit on the kids so bad they left to live with mom, and she had to take him back to court to get child support. Anyway, she has some cash in the bank, which her useless kids dupe her out of endlessly, with the "I'll pay you back" line. Of course they never do. At present she and I are no longer living together. I live in a studio apartment near work and she and the two kids live in the house I PAY FOR!!!!! Why are we seperated, because we fight all the time about her kids. Don't get me wrong, I guess she should count her blessings, as they are not criminals, or drug addicts, etc. They are OK in this respect. Here is the problem!! They are the most selfish, manipultive, lazy people I know. 25 year old graduated from college last june. Was laid off from her intern job, because she showed no motivation or work ethic (her managers reason). She will not work a job that is not in her field, and so she lives at home, her mother gives her $350.00 per month for her bills and what not. She was supposed to be helping her mother with the home business. For 1 year now, I have not seen her put in 1 hours work on the business, she leaves everyday at about noon, goes off with her friends, is gone till midnight or 1:00 am. comes home sleeps till 11:00 am, and gets up and does the same thing again. Does nothing around the house. Brought home a golden lab last spring, that I was dead set against, because I knew that she would do nothing for the dog. I was assured by her that she would take care of the dog. Year later, she has never feed the dog once, never spent any time training her (I did, and she is a good dog). Never picks up her mess around the house (and she trashes the place every time she walks through the door). Does not clean anything, and acts like we (her mom and I) have a problem if we ask her to do anything. By sept. last year, I started getting pissed about her play time on my nickle. I wanted her to get any job, and start paying rent. Her mom would not ask her to do so. My response was to tear up the gas credit card her mom gave her (I pay the bill on it), cancel her cell phone. She (daughter) was pissed, I told her off a couple of times. Asked her mom to stop giving her money. Which she did, only last month. Off course, I'm now the asshole, and the jerk. Everytime I'm home she puts on the bitch act and treats me like crap. My response to her and her mom is "keep it up, and I'll stop paying the bills completely, and they can take me to court to get any money out of me." They ought to think twice about bitting the hand that feeds them. I also pointed out to her (the daughter) that getting pissed at me for treating her mother like crap is hypocritical, as she treats her mom like a door mat and a piece of shit to be stepped around. Gets me no where, and it is about to end my second marriage. As nothing changes in the situation. Problem with the step son is exactly the same with the exception of his mother giving him money. He does work a job as a buss boy in a nice resturant. Yet he is exactly the same in his behavior around the house. MY POINT! So even though these kids are not problem people with violent behavior, they are sponges on socioty and their family. They act like their mother, and the world owes them something, for just being here. I see this a lot with kids today!!! I have two other buddies, that are going through the same thing with their children, or their step children. What the hell is wrong with todays youth? If you want things, work for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Geez what a fucking concept!!!!!1
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