Posted: 7/29/2016 10:11:59 PM EDT
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EASILY pulled it, easily stopped. had to set the cruise at 72 mph, otherwise too easy to be running 80-85
~140 miles 9.1 mpg at 70+ through the MO Ozarks, hills no problem 14 Ram 2500, Cummins, 250 hp chip, Auto trans ~7300# 3 axle trailer ~9800# telehandler ~17800# |
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Quoted: Huh. That's a new one. Quoted: Quoted: Its a Dodge so.......................No. It will however cause the rear axle to get fucked up. Just my personal experience with Dodges. Huh. That's a new one. That's over the limit for that truck I would guess. Telehandlers are heavily counter weighted like a fork lift. Heavier than they look. Gas engine would work hard to tow it around here with hills. Diesel might get up to temp. Diesels are over cooled compared to gassers, brakes and trans are the failure points...trans would be my worry being a dodge. Go easy and think ahead |
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That's a negative, dodges use basically the same rear as HD chebbies. 11.5 inch AAM, the locker is better in the dodges but both are rugged units. That's over the limit for that truck I would guess. Telehandlers are heavily counter weighted like a fork lift. Heavier than they look. Gas engine would work hard to tow it around here with hills. Diesel might get up to temp. Diesels are over cooled compared to gassers, brakes and trans are the failure points...trans would be my worry being a dodge. Go easy and think ahead Quoted:
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Its a Dodge so.......................No. It will however cause the rear axle to get fucked up. Just my personal experience with Dodges. Huh. That's a new one. That's over the limit for that truck I would guess. Telehandlers are heavily counter weighted like a fork lift. Heavier than they look. Gas engine would work hard to tow it around here with hills. Diesel might get up to temp. Diesels are over cooled compared to gassers, brakes and trans are the failure points...trans would be my worry being a dodge. Go easy and think ahead They are flat landers, they don't know the hills you speak of. |
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Quoted: That's some kinda font you got going on there. Quoted: Quoted: I sincerely hope that's not all of the load securement you intend to use. Those weak-ass chains aren't going to hold shit. You could kill someone. That's some kinda font you got going on there. |
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Quoted: That's some kinda font you got going on there. Quoted: Quoted: I sincerely hope that's not all of the load securement you intend to use. Those weak-ass chains aren't going to hold shit. You could kill someone. That's some kinda font you got going on there. Trying to get attention. That's a 17,000 pound load. It needs to be secured with a minimum of two at least 3/8" transport chains/binders (front and rear indirect securement) or four at least 3/8" transport chains/binders (front and rear corners direct securement) for the main body alone, plus securement for attachment. The chains need to be secured around two of the rub-rail pockets. I can't see the tie-down points clearly on my phone so I can't tell if Indirect or direct securement would be better. |
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Quoted: lol, they look like 3/8" and if they are g70 he should be g2g. 4 points front and rear, though he should have another chain or strap over the boom "technically". I hate having to use 1/2" chains. I tow stuff a few times a week Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I sincerely hope that's not all of the load securement you intend to use. Those weak-ass chains aren't going to hold shit. You could kill someone. That's some kinda font you got going on there. One rusty chain through the axle area secured to one pocket on each side and a strap across the front behind the bucket ain't "good to go" on a near 17,000lb load. I haul stuff every day. My load today was "small" in that I only used 24 straps. Whatever. I'd get put out of service for something like that. Like I said, I hope that's not all he intended to use. |
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Quoted: One rusty chain through the axle area secured to one pocket on each side and a strap across the front behind the bucket ain't "good to go" on a near 17,000lb load. I haul stuff every day. My load today was "small" in that I only used 24 straps. Whatever. I'd get put out of service for something like that. Like I said, I hope that's not all he intended to use. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I sincerely hope that's not all of the load securement you intend to use. Those weak-ass chains aren't going to hold shit. You could kill someone. That's some kinda font you got going on there. One rusty chain through the axle area secured to one pocket on each side and a strap across the front behind the bucket ain't "good to go" on a near 17,000lb load. I haul stuff every day. My load today was "small" in that I only used 24 straps. Whatever. I'd get put out of service for something like that. Like I said, I hope that's not all he intended to use. I can't tell what he used up front but the chain in the rear looks to be 3/8 making 2 points of contact. If he did the same up front would that not be sufficient along with another over the boom? |
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I can't tell what he used up front but the chain in the rear looks to be 3/8 making 2 points of contact. If he did the same up front would that not be sufficient along with another over the boom? Chains and straps all have ~12,000 breaking strength. I never did get the strapping the boom down. it ain't moving without breaking some serious stuff. And to Quote a old dozer hauler, " If my truck's going somewhere that the machine is coming off, I DON'T want it following me anymore anyhow"!  He ran a dozer(D8 for as long as I knew him) for over 40 years -
he's dead now though . |
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Quoted: Chains and straps all have ~12,000 breaking strength. No. And breaking strength is not the same as working load limit. But, hey, what do I know. I've done it for a living for over a million miles. It's your nice truck and expensive piece of Ag equipment and other people's families on the road. |
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Quoted: No. No you didn't Quoted: Quoted: Yes Edit: I pulled a D6 dozer with an f350 once so yeah you an pull this. No. No you didn't I HATED that motherfucker too. He tore that truck all up doing that, and bitched to the service manager until it was all under warranty. |
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i'd bet the trailer put you over gvwr on your tonka truck I'm thinking the same thing. losing a tire on that truck would be my biggest fear. That trailer is more than enough for the machine, but the truck still has to do the real work and the trailer alone is heavy for it. Add 17,000 lbs on top of that and you are way over gross gvwr. |
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He might have. I had a customer with a truck fifth wheel in (on?) the bed of a 350. He pulled short dry vans all over the place. I HATED that motherfucker too. He tore that truck all up doing that, and bitched to the service manager until it was all under warranty. Quoted:
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Yes Edit: I pulled a D6 dozer with an f350 once so yeah you an pull this. No. No you didn't I HATED that motherfucker too. He tore that truck all up doing that, and bitched to the service manager until it was all under warranty. D6's weigh, on the low end, 36k and on the high end, 50k. A trailer that you could load a D6 on, Is going to be, minimum, 15k. His F350 isn't pulling 60,000lbs around. And that is at the lowest end of the spectrum. Not to mention, any trailer that can handle one, is going to be air brakes. |