[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Tim Kaine on Gun Control (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/22/2016 8:40:51 PM EDT
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Just some quick info about the VP:
Limit high-capacity clips to no more than ten bullets
Tim Kaine said that he supports measures to restrict the number of bullets that can be fired from a single magazine. "[The proposal by Carolyn McCarthy is the] kind of legislation that I've long supported," Kaine said, of legislation that would limit high-capacity clips to no more than ten bullets, "back from the days when there was an assault weapons ban, before it expired." "I have long been a supporter of what I think are reasonable regulations, the kind of contemplated, frankly, by the Second Amendment, and I think those and others would be reasonable," Kaine said. "In Virginia we worked in the aftermath of Virginia Tech to do some important things on the databases of folks who have been adjudicated mentally ill and dangerous so that they couldn't purchase guns." Kaine's backing of McCarthy's measure is not--at least in these times--necessarily surprising. Though he is a prominent supporter of the Second Amendment, other gun rights enthusiasts have said they are open to the idea as well Voted YES on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets.
Congressional Summary:
Proponent's Argument for voting Yes: Sen. BLUMENTHAL: This amendment would ban high-capacity magazines which are used to kill more people more quickly and, in fact, have been used in more than half the mass shootings since 1982 (BULLFUCKING SHIT). I ask my colleagues to listen to law enforcement, their police, prosecutors who are outgunned by criminals who use these high-capacity magazines. I ask that my colleagues also listen to the families of those killed by people who used a high-capacity magazine. Opponent's Argument for voting No: Sen. GRASSLEY. I oppose the amendment. In 2004, which is the last time we had the large-capacity magazine ban, a Department of Justice study found no evidence banning such magazines has led to a reduction in gun violence. The study also concluded it is not clear how often the outcomes of the gun attack depend on the ability of offenders to fire more than 10 shots without reloading. Secondly, there is no evidence banning these magazines has reduced the deaths from gun crimes. In fact, when the previous ban was in effect, a higher percentage of gun crime victims were killed or wounded than before it was adopted. Additionally, tens of millions of these magazines have been lawfully owned in this country for decades. They are in common use, not unusually dangerous, and used by law-abiding citizens in self-defense, as in the case of law enforcement. Supports restricting the Second Amendment. |
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Vote Trump or you get this. Your choice America. NO!!! I have it on good faith from the #neverTrump thread that Trump is the biggest gun-grabber going. Oh yeah,, he says he will honor the 2nd, but you know how a politician lies. #Hillary/Asshat '16 to save us from Trump. I am sure that TargetTarget will be right along to enlighten you on the total horror of Trump. |
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Kaine is a lost cause on guns.
He's also no progressive. He's in the pocket of corporate interests. As governor, he approved "mountaintop removal" strip mining in western Virginia, something opposed by the environmentalists. I suppose that in kowtowing to business interests, he's on the same page with Hillary. They're both corrupt to the core. As a pro-gun progressive, I'm happier and happier about the prospect of voting for Trump. Trump is more progressive than the Hillary/Kaine duo. |
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Kaine is a lost cause on guns. He's also no progressive. He's in the pocket of corporate interests. As governor, he approved "mountaintop removal" strip mining in western Virginia, something opposed by the environmentalists. I suppose that in kowtowing to business interests, he's on the same page with Hillary. They're both corrupt to the core. As a pro-gun progressive, I'm happier and happier about the prospect of voting for Trump. Trump is more progressive than the Hillary/Kaine duo. You live in NOVA amiright? |
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Kaine is a lost cause on guns. He's also no progressive. He's in the pocket of corporate interests. As governor, he approved "mountaintop removal" strip mining in western Virginia, something opposed by the environmentalists. I suppose that in kowtowing to business interests, he's on the same page with Hillary. They're both corrupt to the core. As a pro-gun progressive, I'm happier and happier about the prospect of voting for Trump. Trump is more progressive than the Hillary/Kaine duo. Define progressive? If you've been here since 2011 that means you're a libertarian. |
About 10 years ago I was walking across a square near my employer in downtown Richmond VA, and Tim Kaine and his staff came walking across the opposite direction. They would stop random people and have him shake their hands and take a photo. They of course picked me, and asked me to say hello. I stood 2' away and looked him right in the eye and asked him if he supported the people's right to keep and bear arms. He said "yes, but..." and I interrupted him and said "and that 'but' sir, is while I will never shake your hand. People like you will be the downfall of our Country, and your are no representative of mine" - and walked away. I'll always remember the look on his face 
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Define progressive? If you've been here since 2011 that means you're a libertarian. Quoted:
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Kaine is a lost cause on guns. He's also no progressive. He's in the pocket of corporate interests. As governor, he approved "mountaintop removal" strip mining in western Virginia, something opposed by the environmentalists. I suppose that in kowtowing to business interests, he's on the same page with Hillary. They're both corrupt to the core. As a pro-gun progressive, I'm happier and happier about the prospect of voting for Trump. Trump is more progressive than the Hillary/Kaine duo. Define progressive? If you've been here since 2011 that means you're a libertarian. No, he is a hardcore lefty. |
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Kaine is a lost cause on guns. He's also no progressive. He's in the pocket of corporate interests. As governor, he approved "mountaintop removal" strip mining in western Virginia, something opposed by the environmentalists. I suppose that in kowtowing to business interests, he's on the same page with Hillary. They're both corrupt to the core. As a pro-gun progressive, I'm happier and happier about the prospect of voting for Trump. Trump is more progressive than the Hillary/Kaine duo. Tim Kaine is absolutely a hard left socialist progressive. The businesses he gets in bed with are the ones that have interests within the hard left. He was a shitty governor, he is a shitty senator, and he would be a shitty VP. Let's hope that Clinton picking him is not an automatic pick up for VA. I know the socialists in NoVa will love it l, the rest of the state not so much. Hopefully the voter turnout in the south and western part of the state is much better this time. |
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He's a Democrat. The assumption is he is anti-gun, I don't need any evidence to support it, but thanks for providing it anyway.  They ran off the few pro gun dems that were left some time ago. ETA: Glad she didn't pick Julian Castro. Honestly surprised she didn't. The hispanic vote would be 99% hers if she had done that. Dude fucking scares me. Looks like a central casting version of a central American dictator. He kinda thinks like one too. |
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Was going to post this. Doesn't seem too bad all things considered. Quoted:
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He's a moderate compared to Fuckhead Hillary. Was going to post this. Doesn't seem too bad all things considered. He's the VP pick, so basically a perpetual lame duck president wanna be. |