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Posted: 5/31/2003 11:22:09 AM EDT
[url=www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0524-03.htm]Return of Assault Weapons Feared in U.S.[/url] 1994 ban on semi-automatics lurches toward expiry date by Tim Harper WASHINGTON—They go by names that suggest power and danger — the "Streetsweeper," the TEC-9, the MAK90, the AK-47. And that's exactly what these military-style assault weapons bring. The power to kill indiscriminately. Now there is fear here that the bullet-spraying semi-automatic weapons are heading back to American streets. The gun debate in the United States has moved back to the forefront as a 1994 ban on assault weapons lurches toward an expiry date and it promises to become a pivotal issue in the next presidential election. U.S. President George W. Bush surprised many when he distanced himself from the powerful National Rifle Association during the 2000 campaign, advocating an extension of the assault-weapon ban that ends in September, 2004. But there are signs here that Bush now appears to want to have it both ways, tacitly supporting the extension to court suburban support in key states, while doing nothing overtly to stop a move that could see Congress simply avoid a vote on the extension and let it die. That would be a powerful nod-and-wink to the firearms lobby, which, by some accounts, poured $1.6 million into the 2000 Bush campaign. "Does George W. Bush want to be known as the pro-assault weapon president?" said Joe Sudbay, the public policy director of the Washington-based Violence Policy Center. "He may be trying to have it both ways now, but it will be pretty clear by Sept. 13, 2004. He either supports the extension or he doesn't ... he either extends it or he doesn't." The 1994 law made it illegal to import, manufacture, transfer or possess 19 types of semi-automatic weapons, although the law was "grandfathered," meaning anyone who legally owned such weapons before that date could retain them. Tom DeLay, the Texas Republican and House of Representatives majority leader, said last week he didn't believe the extension would come to a vote in the Republican-dominated House. DeLay's statement drew a surprising rebuke from the Republican Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, showing that the gun ban does not easily cut across Republican-Democrat lines in this country. While many Democrats are fearful of defeat if they are targeted by the gun lobby in the coming elections, there are many Republicans representing so-called "soccer mom" suburban constituencies who could become electoral toast if they are seen to be backing a measure which would bring the deadly weapons legally back to the streets of America. White House spokesperson Ari Fleischer said last week Bush has not had any change of heart from his 2000 campaign promise. But he offered no explanation as to why Bush has given no presidential muscle to the promise. He has not been shy about stumping the country pushing for his tax-cut proposals, but has said nothing publicly about assault weapons. "The House does everything the president wants," New York Democratic Senator Charles Schumer said. "He wants a dividends tax cut, they do it. He wants one bill or another, they jump. In fact ... they say `how high?' He's got to walk the walk (on guns). If the president wants this bill to come to his desk, it will. If the president doesn't, he can have his minions whisper to the House, `kill the bill,' and he'll never reach it." In 1994, the ban passed the House by a mere two votes, but it has been something less than a rousing success, even the anti-gun lobby concedes. Many weapons manufacturers simply cosmetically changed the specs on the weapons to circumvent the ban, cynically adding "AB" to their model numbers, indicating they were changed "after the ban." In 2000, 28,653 died of gunshot wounds in the U.S.; 94 children and teens in Louisiana alone. The gun death rate during that year was 10.4 per 100,000 population. The Violence Policy Center released a study last week indicating that 41 of 211 law enforcement officers gunned down in the line of duty between Jan. 1, 1998, and Dec. 31, 2001 — almost one in five — were felled by assault weapons. During a three-week reign of terror last October, the Washington snipers used a modified Bushmaster assault rifle, an XM15 M4 A3. The company's sales have soared since 1994. The teens behind the 1999 Columbine massacre used modified TEC-9s. "There's not a dime's worth of difference in the performance characteristics between the guns on the banned list and the guns not on the banned list," said NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre. Anti-gun advocates want an even tougher ban to replace the 1994 law, but, right now, there is little hope in Washington the law will be improved. It is more a question of a dogged fight to keep the status quo. Bryan Miller of Philadelphia knows something about fight and he doesn't buy the conventional Washington spin. Miller joined the advocacy group CeaseFire PA after his brother, an FBI agent, was slain at District of Columbia police headquarters in 1994. It was a case of mistaken identity. The gunman, carrying a concealed TEC-9, was looking for the head of homicide. Mike Miller was in the "cold case" squad. "He went the wrong way ... but somebody was going to die, anyway," Miller said. Since then, Miller has worked tirelessly to control guns in his country. "These guns are ugly," he said in an interview. "We have tapes of those kids firing away in Columbine. We have families of victims and people like me who have lost loved ones to these guns. [size=4]"We have lots of support. And we are just getting started."[/size=4]
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:30:29 AM EDT
Oh no... some leftist hack spewing forth his hackneyed anti gun screed on some "progressive" news site!!! Thanks for the heads up Imbro... the Republic is indeed lost.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:33:41 AM EDT
LOL, more spraying bullets !! These crybabies are priceless. [>(] [>(]
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:44:02 AM EDT
Gosh, I sure am glad my bullet spraying semiautomatic AR15 isn't on the streets of America! Unlike other guns, these machines of death don't discriminate when it comes to killing ... because you know, other guns won't let you pull the trigger and fire unless you're aiming at something other than an innocent bystander [rolleyes] Add that to the rapid fire high capacity ammunition magazines that can hose down entire city blocks without aiming, and you've got yourself a genuine appocalyptic situation. I hope some antis read this thread because I'd like to tell them all to FUCK OFF AND GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES. J.H.C., if the people in this country would take a moment or two to actually educate themselves (God forbid they do anything on their own) about firearms, they'd be a lot less likely to swallow the bullshit lies and misinformation constantly being spouted by these IDIOTS. My sig quote says it all.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:52:43 AM EDT
Old news, I read it on GD the other day.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:53:15 AM EDT
Why are Canadians so afraid of Americans having high capacity magazines again? Why is a foreign communist website posting such articles, what is their interest in the matter?
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 1:19:39 PM EDT
JEEZ WHAT A DRAMA QUEEN!!!
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 1:20:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Why are Canadians so afraid of Americans having high capacity magazines again? Why is a foreign communist website posting such articles, what is their interest in the matter?
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They saw the movie "Canadian Bacon"...they are afraid American civilians, armed with semi-automatic, radar guided, anti aircraft, assault machineguns will invade Canada, and distribute litter, and graffiti.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 7:56:30 PM EDT
[LOLabove]
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 8:16:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/31/2003 8:17:21 PM EDT by bigscrun]
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 8:26:39 PM EDT
Where are these "STREETS" That these cock sucking geeks are alway talking about? If they are so dangerous, why don't the weak liberals just stop going there?
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 9:41:15 PM EDT
They go by names that suggest power and danger — the "Streetsweeper," the TEC-9, the MAK90, the AK-47.
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See, this is where the fckin problem lies! I am renaming my AR15 the Sunflower-97. I bought it in 1997.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 9:53:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 9:58:18 PM EDT
Mine's named "Happy Camper."
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 9:59:30 PM EDT
OK! Mine is the "old blue 1"...better known as the greasy black one!
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 10:04:46 PM EDT
"Fluffy Bunny".
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 10:34:30 PM EDT
What if a black rifle was named: "Gun Control"? [rolleyes] hijack apologies. Thanks for the post, I hadn't seen the piece.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 10:43:44 PM EDT
I believe that my friend said it best about the politicans and the ban..."Those mother f****rs can go to hell if they think its going to be renewed."
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 7:10:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NYPatriot: Oh no... some leftist hack spewing forth his hackneyed anti gun screed on some "progressive" news site!!!
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Actually, it is a [b]Canadian[/b] leftist hack - the article is reprinted from the Toronto Star. I fired up my email to send the author a note, but then realized he is from Canada... nah, not worth it.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 7:35:55 AM EDT
i'm actually scared myself, but not as scared as my wife, i blow enough money on guns already and now they want to give us back all those attachments. damn, i'm gonna go broke.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 7:43:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By markm: Where are these "STREETS" That these cock sucking geeks are alway talking about? If they are so dangerous, why don't the weak liberals just stop going there?
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I don't know. I just looked out the window and I didn't see any "on the street". I better be careful when I jog later, I don't want to trip over any of those deadly assualt weapons "on the street". BTW if I find one "on the street" can I keep it?
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:02:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JIMBEAM: BTW if I find one "on the street" can I keep it?
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I am sure you can, considering that these weapons seem to be left lying around on the street like children's bicycles, or something.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:41:22 PM EDT
"Fisked": [url=smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003_05_25_smallestminority_archive.html#95135995]here[/url] I did a good job if I do say so myself.
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