If they all hate us so much, how come they do everything they can to be like us (i.e., with McDonalds, blue jeans, hamburgers, cell phones, music, etc...)? Could it be that they disagree with some of our [b]policies and actions[/b] and don't have any real beef with American [b]people[/b]? They want to kill us all and destroy our culture, [b]and[/b] listen to Britany Spears?

Don't read or watch the news much, do you? If the only beef they had was with our policies and actions, why were two civilian buildings, each containing thousands of people, targeted for destruction? Why did countless thousands of them celebrate the deaths of thousands of American civilians? Once again, I say fuck 'em.

In all the threads that covered this topic so far, Im STILL waiting for someone to outline the plan by which AMERICAN soldiers determine the true intent of armed Iraqis without having to die first to find out...

Anytime the authorities start kicking down the doors of people who aren't engaged in hostilities, people are going to resist. The US had better get used to it. Iraqi citizens need to be able to defend themselves as well. Some of these people were supportive of the US until they got their houses searched and weapons seized. Nothing like being left at the mercy of criminals to foster resentment.

I don't want to have to surrender my firearms because there are Ba'ath Party members in the US ready to perform terrorist acts.

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That's why they get combat pay, 30 days vacation and most of them get all Federal holidays......WAR SUCKS.

Again, not a rat's ass.
I don't care.
It's war.  Not a popularity contest.
Guess what?
The Kurds who fought on our side get to keep theirs (RPGs, MGs, etc.)
How 'bout that.
No need for any logical contortions.
It's you who have lost sight of what victory, and defeat actually means.  I think you must have bought the Clinton Doctrine of war.
To keep our country safe, we shouldn't try to make our enemies happy, as it seems you would suggest.
No, we defeat them, and frighten them, and remain vigilant.
None of this bullshit about changing our policies so that "we won't anger so many people".

Who cares?
If they intend to cause us harm, we will crush them.
You, on the other hand would appease and pacify.
Then we'll be seen as a "paper tiger", and vulnerable to attack....

Sounds familiar?


Many here believe that WE in this nation should be able to own crew served MGs, if that is our desire.  Right?
And what I see in this thread, are people projecting their domestic RKBA concerns onto the Iraq situation.
Shouldn't therefore the Iraqis be able to keep their heavy MGs?
Shouldn't they be allowed to form militias, to fight off any future invaders (or to defend against an oppressive American occupation government)?


According to the "logic" being put forth in this thread, these would be appropriate actions.

Not too smart.

What he said! This isn't a U. S. 2nd Amendment issue.

"That's why [b]they[/b] get combat pay, 30 days vacation and most of them get all Federal holidays......WAR SUCKS"


You'd make a great Russian general.

What do you expect them to do?  Challenge the US Military to a stand-up fight?  They would get their asses creamed and they know it.

To say that they will always hate us to me sounds pretty naive.  These are still people, who worry about their jobs, their families and so on.  They don't just sit around under the date tree and say, "Gee, I think I'll go kill some American civillians just for the hell of it."  If the U.S. stopped meddling in the Middle East tomorrow, I bet most of the anti-Americanism would dissipate within 10 or 15 years.

This isn't about pacifying them or upholding some standard of machismo so we don't seem like "wimps."  This is about realizing that our foreign policy has antagonized an entire region of people and knowing when we've been wrong.  But it takes a strong person to admit he's been wrong for so long.

How many Americans still hate or fear the Russians?  That was the big threat when I was growing up.  Now I'd rather just sit down and drink some vodka with them.  (Oh yeah, and send me some of those cheap mail-order Russian brides.  [:D])

-Nick Viejo.

Same problem with this gun kontrol that we have here.

Those who are inclined to not shoot you are the only ones who would consider surrendering their weapons.

If you were in a occupied country, with looting, etc, would you consider for a second giving up any of your weapons? I dont think so. Molon Labe.

This pretty much sums it up.  Gun control there is going to be just as misguided, ineffective and counter productive as gun control here.

If I were living in Iraq today, I would keep an RPG and rounds for it buried deep - just in case.