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7/9/2016 4:35:08 PM EDT
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Can an expert marksman with a Colt 6920 with an ACOG TA31 repeatedly shoot five shot groups of 1 inch at 100 yards using m193 ammo?

if you want to comment with your best group using 193 or clones go for it.
7/9/2016 4:38:14 PM EDT
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M193 is not considered 1 MOA ammunition so I do not think it would be possible.
7/9/2016 4:40:17 PM EDT
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I wouldn't trust a 6920 to be a 1 MOA rifle either, at least not as set up from the factory.
7/9/2016 4:48:24 PM EDT
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I know my BCM middy free float chrome lined shoots 1 moa with Hornady 75gr bthp.
7/9/2016 4:50:15 PM EDT
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I wouldn't trust a 6920 to be a 1 MOA rifle either, at least not as set up from the factory.
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M193 is not considered 1 MOA ammunition so I do not think it would be possible.


I wouldn't trust a 6920 to be a 1 MOA rifle either, at least not as set up from the factory.
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7/9/2016 4:52:52 PM EDT
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M193 is not considered 1 MOA ammunition so I do not think it would be possible.

I wouldn't trust a 6920 to be a 1 MOA rifle either, at least not as set up from the factory.
right on both counts  

I'm going with this.
7/9/2016 5:13:10 PM EDT
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More results
7/9/2016 5:20:45 PM EDT
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Maybe on a good day with sorted and measured ammo. I have rifles that are sub MOA with 1/7 twist, but those are 55 gr boat tail match rounds not m193.
7/9/2016 5:32:16 PM EDT
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Repeatedly, consistently no.  But every once and a while the 5 shot group will be within 1".  Maybe one out of dozen times.  Most groups will be 1.5 - 2" if using Wolf Gold.
7/9/2016 5:32:19 PM EDT
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With a real scope, yes . . . with an Acog, I doubt it.



7/9/2016 5:39:35 PM EDT
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a real scope?  So with say a high grade scope like I dunno a nightforce 3-15 or something you could shoot consistently 5 shot groups that were 1 inch at 100 yards.
7/9/2016 5:41:47 PM EDT
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M193 is not consistent enough to complete the MOA all day challenge. I'll put a dollar on that bet.
7/9/2016 5:42:46 PM EDT
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a real scope?  So with say a high grade scope like I dunno a nightforce 3-15 or something you could shoot consistently 5 shot groups that were 1 inch at 100 yards.
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With a real scope, yes . . . with an Acog, I doubt it.


a real scope?  So with say a high grade scope like I dunno a nightforce 3-15 or something you could shoot consistently 5 shot groups that were 1 inch at 100 yards.




 
No. The bullet type isnt consistent enough nor made for precision.
7/9/2016 5:43:49 PM EDT
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Molon has shown fine accuracy from Colt chrome lined barrels, Sub-MOA, but not with 193.
7/9/2016 5:48:22 PM EDT
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With a real scope, yes . . . with an Acog, I doubt it.



a real scope?  So with say a high grade scope like I dunno a nightforce 3-15 or something you could shoot consistently 5 shot groups that were 1 inch at 100 yards.



  No. The bullet type isnt consistent enough nor made for precision.


Yep, the military doesn't need sub moa ammo for the average guy to get his job done.  I think the spec on m193 is 3" at 100yds which is good enough for minute of man and costs less.


 
7/9/2016 5:49:19 PM EDT
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7/9/2016 5:51:30 PM EDT
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Yep, the military doesn't need sub moa ammo for the average guy to get his job done.  I think the spec on m193 is 3" at 100yds which is good enough for minute of man and costs less.  
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With a real scope, yes . . . with an Acog, I doubt it.


a real scope?  So with say a high grade scope like I dunno a nightforce 3-15 or something you could shoot consistently 5 shot groups that were 1 inch at 100 yards.


  No. The bullet type isnt consistent enough nor made for precision.

Yep, the military doesn't need sub moa ammo for the average guy to get his job done.  I think the spec on m193 is 3" at 100yds which is good enough for minute of man and costs less.  




 
And is pretty much exactly what I was getting just a few hours ago with m193 on a KAC SR15 with a TA33 ACOG.







But Im no expert marksman...
7/9/2016 5:51:43 PM EDT
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a real scope?  So with say a high grade scope like I dunno a nightforce 3-15 or something you could shoot consistently 5 shot groups that were 1 inch at 100 yards.

  No. The bullet type isnt consistent enough nor made for precision.
Yep, the military doesn't need sub moa ammo for the average guy to get his job done.  I think the spec on m193 is 3" at 100yds which is good enough for minute of man and costs less.  

Would have been pretty rough to allow drop to clarify.
7/9/2016 6:55:17 PM EDT
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lets get some more
7/9/2016 7:20:15 PM EDT
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Handloaded XM193 clone ammo and my BCM SS barrel with a 3x15 will get 1.0-1.5" about 60% of the time, 2" 30% of the time, 1.0" or less 10%.  With an Acog (and my eyes) around 2.0" or larger.
7/9/2016 10:49:35 PM EDT
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I'll shoot 1 MOA all day with 193, using my frankenAR and an Aimpoint PRO.

I find two round groups really shine and show enough accuracy informatuon.
7/9/2016 11:31:49 PM EDT
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I would have to see it to believe it.

Anyone remember the Santa Barbara M193?
7/10/2016 12:31:30 AM EDT
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I'm going with this.
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M193 is not considered 1 MOA ammunition so I do not think it would be possible.

I wouldn't trust a 6920 to be a 1 MOA rifle either, at least not as set up from the factory.
right on both counts  

I'm going with this.