[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Racial divide (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/1/2016 12:32:32 PM EDT
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/politics/why-black-america-may-be-relieved-to-see-obama-go/index.html
Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan is seen by some as code for "Make America White Again." Blacks and Latinos have been spit upon and assaulted at some Trump rallies. < lie, they have done the assaulting I haven't rationalized it before but the general concept of this article brought a why to the oddness of the past few years. Had an older black co-worker ask many times "I never heard, Make America Great Again, till Obama got elected". I kept telling him that there could be a 1000 people in the room and that statement could mean something different to each one of them. It's just a campaign slogan. "No, white people don't want a black man as President". My response was to point out the ethnic percentages in the US and tell him he couldn't have won without white voters, and a lot of them. But he kept asking the same question. ^ has had me scratching my head for a while. The CNN article kinda sheds light on it for me. Last week or so I've been thinking it may be part of a Rosa Parks syndrome, I do what I want, when I want. Granted I think she was right but I think a large portion of the black population have taken that to mean "I can get whatever I want, however I want, and nobody can say or do anything about it". The knockout game, black kid that just sucker punched the white kid with brass knuckles, riots over someone getting shot for attacking a LEO, white people playing as black, DOJ investigating a black man that hung himself. Things seem topsy-turvy and quite frankly, my opinions have changed drastically in the past 8 years. |
| The only thing I got from your post was you had a little white guilt and now you sort of don't. As far as racial divide there always has been but with fifty years of anti-white propaganda the whites have adopted black cultural and allowed themselves to become second class citizens. The way they (people of color) act now with the knockout games etc is nothing new. They have always been violent its just that now they can get away with it. |
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Quoted: "We president now!" Prior to this, it was "let's all try to get along to the best of our abilities." Sure, there were racists on both sides, but overall, integration into society was very, very high. Now, there is a movement to "embrace diversity" which is a code-word for unlawful, non-social behavior. It's all about lack of repercussions for your actions now, because the police have demonstrated that they will ignore unlawful, violent behavior. |
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this sums it up. Prior to this, it was "let's all try to get along to the best of our abilities." Sure, there were racists on both sides, but overall, integration into society was very, very high. Now, there is a movement to "embrace diversity" which is a code-word for unlawful, non-social behavior. It's all about lack of repercussions for your actions now, because the police have demonstrated that they will ignore unlawful, violent behavior. Quoted:
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"We president now!" Now, there is a movement to "embrace diversity" which is a code-word for unlawful, non-social behavior. It's all about lack of repercussions for your actions now, because the police have demonstrated that they will ignore unlawful, violent behavior. I don't so much blame the police. They get fired and prosecuted for trying to save their own lives and accused of sparking the riot. Why would they stick there neck out for someone else's life, let alone property. EDIT: "we president now" was a big tell tell of what was to come. |
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Quoted: I don't so much blame the police. They get fired and prosecuted for trying to save their own lives and accused of sparking the riot. Why would they stick there neck out for someone else's life, let alone property. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "We president now!" Now, there is a movement to "embrace diversity" which is a code-word for unlawful, non-social behavior. It's all about lack of repercussions for your actions now, because the police have demonstrated that they will ignore unlawful, violent behavior. |
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ |
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Quoted: Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Quoted: Quoted: Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Is "Factcheck.org" a sub-division of "MoveOn.org'? Who Fact Checks "FactCheck.org'? |
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Who Fact Checks "FactCheck.org'? I guess you? And please post back with indescrepencies (I like facts). Shouldn't be that hard, as the history of it should be fairly well documented. Edit: All social handouts have ballooned under him, but he can not be blamed for many of the startups. ie, who is to blame for the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. Lay blame where blame is due. |
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I guess you? And please post back with indescrepencies (I like facts). Shouldn't be that hard, as the history of it should be fairly well documented. Quoted:
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Who Fact Checks "FactCheck.org'? I guess you? And please post back with indescrepencies (I like facts). Shouldn't be that hard, as the history of it should be fairly well documented. If I wasn't on my cellphone I'd show you myself. Hell I witness Obama phones being sold every day I go to work. |
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Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Quoted:
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ IDGAF All the free shit the free shit army gets, whether from private or public funding, will forever in my mind be Obama [insert name of free shit], because he's the commander in chief of the free shit army. |
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Because it will be missed, I edited my previous post with "Edit: All social handouts have ballooned under him, but he can not be blamed for many of the startups. ie, who is to blame for the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. Lay blame where blame is due."
We seem to be trying to have a gang bang, instead of staying on original topic. |
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"We president now!" I think that attitude, more than anything, is what has caused a lot of the tension and divisiveness of the past few years. People went from a spirit of trying to get along and working toward equality to a spirit of entitlement, vindictiveness, and superiority. That same attitude has shown up in the latest iteration of feminism as well. It's disappointing, to say the least. |
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Quoted: Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Quoted: Quoted: Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Killjoy.  |
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IDGAF All the free shit the free shit army gets, whether from private or public funding, will forever in my mind be Obama [insert name of free shit], because he's the commander in chief of the free shit army. Quoted:
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ IDGAF All the free shit the free shit army gets, whether from private or public funding, will forever in my mind be Obama [insert name of free shit], because he's the commander in chief of the free shit army. Set your mind free and just focus on the fact. If I showed you a history of food stamp hand outs taking a nice exponential line up since inception, regardless who was president or who controlled congress, no hiccups, would you care? I really hate every lefty I discuss issues with that respond to real facts with "I still think that is a problem" or " "I still don't think that should be allowed". Edit: My sarcasm meter was not properly calibrated. Sorry, that was good. |
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I guess you? And please post back with indescrepencies (I like facts). Shouldn't be that hard, as the history of it should be fairly well documented. Edit: All social handouts have ballooned under him, but he can not be blamed for many of the startups. ie, who is to blame for the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. Lay blame where blame is due. Quoted:
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Who Fact Checks "FactCheck.org'? I guess you? And please post back with indescrepencies (I like facts). Shouldn't be that hard, as the history of it should be fairly well documented. Edit: All social handouts have ballooned under him, but he can not be blamed for many of the startups. ie, who is to blame for the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. Lay blame where blame is due. Your fact check is full of shit! Look on your phone bill for "universal service fee", or something similar. That is how the subsidized phones are funded. It is most certainly a tax, and the only way to avoid it is to not own a phone, which is not feasible in 2016. |
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Your fact check is full of shit! Look on your phone bill for "universal service fee", or something similar. That is how the subsidized phones are funded. It is most certainly a tax, and the only way to avoid it is to not own a phone, which is not feasible in 2016. Quoted:
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Who Fact Checks "FactCheck.org'? I guess you? And please post back with indescrepencies (I like facts). Shouldn't be that hard, as the history of it should be fairly well documented. Edit: All social handouts have ballooned under him, but he can not be blamed for many of the startups. ie, who is to blame for the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. Lay blame where blame is due. Your fact check is full of shit! Look on your phone bill for "universal service fee", or something similar. That is how the subsidized phones are funded. It is most certainly a tax, and the only way to avoid it is to not own a phone, which is not feasible in 2016. Thanks and I appreciate your anger, but do you know the source of it. Like the last guy that has not showed back up, Google the history and get back to me with your anger. Shit be real. The truth will set you free. |
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Quoted: Your fact check is full of shit! Look on your phone bill for "universal service fee", or something similar. That is how the subsidized phones are funded. It is most certainly a tax, and the only way to avoid it is to not own a phone, which is not feasible in 2016. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ Who Fact Checks "FactCheck.org'? I guess you? And please post back with indescrepencies (I like facts). Shouldn't be that hard, as the history of it should be fairly well documented. Edit: All social handouts have ballooned under him, but he can not be blamed for many of the startups. ie, who is to blame for the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act. Lay blame where blame is due. Your fact check is full of shit! Look on your phone bill for "universal service fee", or something similar. That is how the subsidized phones are funded. It is most certainly a tax, and the only way to avoid it is to not own a phone, which is not feasible in 2016. The program started in 2008. |
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I haven't rationalized it before but the general concept of this article brought a why to the oddness of the past few years. Had an older black co-worker ask many times "I never heard, Make America Great Again, till Obama got elected". I kept telling him that there could be a 1000 people in the room and that statement could mean something different to each one of them. It's just a campaign slogan. "No, white people don't want a black man as President". My response was to point out the ethnic percentages in the US and tell him he couldn't have won without white voters, and a lot of them. But he kept asking the same question. Sounds like he's one of the many idiots who think that everything begins and ends with race and is unable to comprehend that there is much, much more at play than his skin color. It's not uncommon and seem to be only getting worse. |
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I could not imagine there would be this many ill informed people here. My mind is boggled. You're still fairly new here, I see.
I read it twice, laughed both times, a hard roll laugh. laughed again as I was typing, It doesn't get better than this, other than when a mother eats her young. |
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Set your mind free and just focus on the fact. If I showed you a history of food stamp hand outs taking a nice exponential line up since inception, regardless who was president or who controlled congress, no hiccups, would you care? I really hate every lefty I discuss issues with that respond to real facts with "I still think that is a problem" or " "I still don't think that should be allowed". Edit: My sarcasm meter was not properly calibrated. Sorry, that was good. Quoted:
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ IDGAF All the free shit the free shit army gets, whether from private or public funding, will forever in my mind be Obama [insert name of free shit], because he's the commander in chief of the free shit army. Set your mind free and just focus on the fact. If I showed you a history of food stamp hand outs taking a nice exponential line up since inception, regardless who was president or who controlled congress, no hiccups, would you care? I really hate every lefty I discuss issues with that respond to real facts with "I still think that is a problem" or " "I still don't think that should be allowed". Edit: My sarcasm meter was not properly calibrated. Sorry, that was good. So a steady increase is ok? How could that not be a problem? It's not even so much the money. Honestly it's relatively low compared to some of our other spending. It's the culture and mental that it creates that I have a problem with. I really don't have a problem with helping people, sometimes good people go through a bad time and need help, ok. But when this "help" has basically become a tool to keep people dependent on this system and voting a certain way, yea it's a problem. I want people to be able to help themselves. |
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A black man stabbed to death a 21 year old girl who was a manager at raising canes this week in Nola.
I have not seen a story lately where a white girl has stabbed a black man to death. Statistics are racist. Until we accept what's going on, we can't help those people who need it. I.e. You need to hold people accountable and stop making special classes of people. |
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The pool of people that want to blame someone other then them selves for their "hard ships" only grows larger by the day. Many people can't better their lives without the "I'm a victim", sympathy advantage. Democrats know this, exploit it, and can't win elections without giving people something they "can't", or in most cases, "won't" do for them selves. Is there racism? Yes, will it "ever" end, no.....
About the phone. What difference does it "really" make if Obama was directly related or not, when this lady was plastered all over the media in the 2012 election? The handout bunch (Democrats) showed up for phones, healthcare, welfare, food stamps, you name it. Obama Phone Lady “I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” |
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Sounds like he's one of the many idiots who think that everything begins and ends with race and is unable to comprehend that there is much, much more at play than his skin color. It's not uncommon and seem to be only getting worse. Quoted:
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I haven't rationalized it before but the general concept of this article brought a why to the oddness of the past few years. Had an older black co-worker ask many times "I never heard, Make America Great Again, till Obama got elected". I kept telling him that there could be a 1000 people in the room and that statement could mean something different to each one of them. It's just a campaign slogan. "No, white people don't want a black man as President". My response was to point out the ethnic percentages in the US and tell him he couldn't have won without white voters, and a lot of them. But he kept asking the same question. Sounds like he's one of the many idiots who think that everything begins and ends with race and is unable to comprehend that there is much, much more at play than his skin color. It's not uncommon and seem to be only getting worse. I was liberal, that a bunch a people told me not to move in to. "They are just like me, go to work". I was wrong, so yes I was an idiot. Skin color has nothing to do with it. Values do. Not to sugar coat it, I did not like my liberal experience. F living around "those" people. Want to rent/buy a house, I can probably get you one. |
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Quoted: A black man stabbed to death a 21 year old girl who was a manager at raising canes this week in Nola. I have not seen a story lately where a white girl has stabbed a black man to death. Statistics are racist. Until we accept what's going on, we can't help those people who need it. I.e. You need to hold people accountable and stop making special classes of people. I saw this. They're looking for a third "accomplice".  |
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Elite K-8 school teaches white students they’re born racist
Administrators at the Bank Street School for Children on the Upper West Side claim it’s a novel approach to fighting discrimination, and that several other private New York schools are doing it, but even liberal parents aren’t buying it. “Ever since Ferguson, the school has been increasing anti-white propaganda in its curriculum,” said a parent who requested anonymity because he has children currently enrolled in the school 
The program, these parents say, deliberately instills in white children a strong sense of guilt about their race. Some kids come home in tears, saying, “I’m a bad person.” They say white kids are being brainwashed into thinking any success they achieve is unearned. Indeed, a young white girl is seen confessing on a Bank Street video: “I feel guilty for having a privilege I don’t deserve.” |
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A black man stabbed to death a 21 year old girl who was a manager at raising canes this week in Nola. I have not seen a story lately where a white girl has stabbed a black man to death. Statistics are racist. Until we accept what's going on, we can't help those people who need it. I.e. You need to hold people accountable and stop making special classes of people. I agree. Some of the biggest arguments I've had recently are with people unwilling to acknowledge differences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being able to acknowledge differences, man/woman, black/white, gay/straight, whatever. Being able to acknowledge that there is a difference is the first step towards tolerance or solving problems. They seem to think even acknowledging difference is what makes the divide, it isn't. Resentment is. |
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ A lot of us KNOW the history. However, Obama made it his "thing" by throwing cheap trinkets to his ignorant pawns for a vote. He had to show the gimmies were out there. There have been banners and ads for these phones calling them "Obamaphones". A label he wore with pride....same as Obamacare. It isn't about who started it, but under this clown, they have been branded as such to make the idiots think they got something for free. An actual and personal gift from their leader. |
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I agree. Some of the biggest arguments I've had recently are with people unwilling to acknowledge differences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being able to acknowledge differences, man/woman, black/white, gay/straight, whatever. Being able to acknowledge that there is a difference is the first step towards tolerance or solving problems. They seem to think even acknowledging difference is what makes the divide, it isn't. Resentment is. Quoted:
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A black man stabbed to death a 21 year old girl who was a manager at raising canes this week in Nola. I have not seen a story lately where a white girl has stabbed a black man to death. Statistics are racist. Until we accept what's going on, we can't help those people who need it. I.e. You need to hold people accountable and stop making special classes of people. I agree. Some of the biggest arguments I've had recently are with people unwilling to acknowledge differences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being able to acknowledge differences, man/woman, black/white, gay/straight, whatever. Being able to acknowledge that there is a difference is the first step towards tolerance or solving problems. They seem to think even acknowledging difference is what makes the divide, it isn't. Resentment is. Biggest conversations I've had was with a guy that has a gay twin brother an daughter. I don't care. because I believe do what you want, don't assume I believe in everything on that side or under the tent, meaning I really don't care, "and you do the same". Think he is coming around. |
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Biggest conversations I've had was with a guy that has a gay twin brother an daughter. I don't care. because I believe do what you want, don't assume I believe in everything on that side or under the tent, meaning I really don't care, "and you do the same". Think he is coming around. Quoted:
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A black man stabbed to death a 21 year old girl who was a manager at raising canes this week in Nola. I have not seen a story lately where a white girl has stabbed a black man to death. Statistics are racist. Until we accept what's going on, we can't help those people who need it. I.e. You need to hold people accountable and stop making special classes of people. I agree. Some of the biggest arguments I've had recently are with people unwilling to acknowledge differences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being able to acknowledge differences, man/woman, black/white, gay/straight, whatever. Being able to acknowledge that there is a difference is the first step towards tolerance or solving problems. They seem to think even acknowledging difference is what makes the divide, it isn't. Resentment is. Biggest conversations I've had was with a guy that has a gay twin brother an daughter. I don't care. because I believe do what you want, don't assume I believe in everything on that side or under the tent, meaning I really don't care, "and you do the same". Think he is coming around. I don't really follow most of that. But being able to acknowledge a difference and not giving a fuck (even if you don't agree with it) is way better than trying to deny there is any difference at all. Trying to force people to get along by seemingly trying to trick them isn't going to work, which seems be the lefts tactic. Then bash the ones who try point out the flaw in this for not being tolerant  .
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A lot of us KNOW the history. However, Obama made it his "thing" by throwing cheap trinkets to his ignorant pawns for a vote. He had to show the gimmies were out there. There have been banners and ads for these phones calling them "Obamaphones". A label he wore with pride....same as Obamacare. It isn't about who started it, but under this clown, they have been branded as such to make the idiots think they got something for free. An actual and personal gift from their leader. Quoted:
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Obama give me obamaphone. Before you use that as a punchline again, know the history. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ A lot of us KNOW the history. However, Obama made it his "thing" by throwing cheap trinkets to his ignorant pawns for a vote. He had to show the gimmies were out there. There have been banners and ads for these phones calling them "Obamaphones". A label he wore with pride....same as Obamacare. It isn't about who started it, but under this clown, they have been branded as such to make the idiots think they got something for free. An actual and personal gift from their leader. Like liberals, I say facts mean something. Ignore it or don't, but facts are facts. But dont tell me it's that guys faults because of of your feels. You want to fight, lets fight together. Tell me about the history that you are aware of. |
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Quoted: The program started in 2008. Quoted: Quoted: Your fact check is full of shit! Look on your phone bill for "universal service fee", or something similar. That is how the subsidized phones are funded. It is most certainly a tax, and the only way to avoid it is to not own a phone, which is not feasible in 2016. The program started in 2008. The universal service fee was an AL Gore invention. And Obama didn't take office until 2009. |
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Just remember every year we allow in about one million legals and I would imagine most will be left of center.
We allow in thousands of asylum seekers and I would imagine most are left of center. More dems are registered to vote then repubs, so even if Trump wins this round it is just a matter of time before anyone with a right of center thought is ever elected to POTUS again. |
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Just remember every year we allow in about one million legals and I would imagine most will be left of center. We allow in thousands of asylum seekers and I would imagine most are left of center. More dems are registered to vote then repubs, so even if Trump wins this round it is just a matter of time before anyone with a right of center thought is ever elected to POTUS again. I wonder how kind the new majority will be to the white minority? |
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I saw this. They're looking for a third "accomplice".
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A black man stabbed to death a 21 year old girl who was a manager at raising canes this week in Nola. I have not seen a story lately where a white girl has stabbed a black man to death. Statistics are racist. Until we accept what's going on, we can't help those people who need it. I.e. You need to hold people accountable and stop making special classes of people. I saw this. They're looking for a third "accomplice".
That story is sad and infuriating. |