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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:43:16 AM EDT
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things....
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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:44:19 AM EDT
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I always thought disallowing it was world grade dumb...and before someone pipes up about sun burn...most peoples lower arms don't burn like the rest of the body....
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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:44:19 AM EDT
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... no shit. and we have to launch a "pilot" program to see if it is a feasible idea. fucking stupidity. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:44:47 AM EDT
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I always thought disallowing it was world grade dumb...and before someone pipes up about sun burn...most peoples lower arms don't burn like the rest of the body.... and most people are smart enough to pull the sleeves down if needed |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:44:59 AM EDT
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... FPNI |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:46:33 AM EDT
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and most people are smart enough to pull the sleeves down if needed Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always thought disallowing it was world grade dumb...and before someone pipes up about sun burn...most peoples lower arms don't burn like the rest of the body.... and most people are smart enough to pull the sleeves down if needed The 1SG's would lose their shit if one person rolled them down while everyone else had them up 
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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:46:44 AM EDT
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As much as I'm not a fan of rolling sleeves (I think it looks dumb and will only take up more time and effort), this is a good thing.
SGM Dailey is listening to what soldiers want/need, trying out new ideas, and solidly grounding himself with the lower enlisted. So much better than what we've had in recent years with upper levels of command just doing their own thing and dragging the rest of us along with them. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:58:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2016 9:59:13 AM EDT
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Now, if ONLY they can resist the 'combat roll' (so you can unroll them in a CBR environment) b.s. Of all the things you could be doing to protect yourself in that situation, a mask would be better. Not to mention that in the field you rarely roll your sleeves anyway.
The 'combat roll' was really there because some Pentagonal nitwit thought the undyed side of the cloth clashed with the camo side, not realizing it would be self correcting in field/combat. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:01:10 AM EDT
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Now, if ONLY they can resist the 'combat roll' (so you can unroll them in a CBR environment) b.s. Of all the things you could be doing to protect yourself in that situation, a mask would be better. Not to mention that in the field you rarely roll your sleeves anyway. The 'combat roll' was really there because some Pentagonal nitwit thought the undyed side of the cloth clashed with the camo side, not realizing it would be self correcting in field/combat. There's your problem... 
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:01:27 AM EDT
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We just downgrade to t-shirts anyways when its hot as fuck.
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:04:11 AM EDT
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except for the inkies, they gotta keep em down?
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:11:31 AM EDT
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... Yes, in the US, there will be people setting uniform policy for the uniformed armed forces. Crazy, I know. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:14:49 AM EDT
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We just downgrade to t-shirts anyways when its hot as fuck. When I was at the Ft. Silly WTU, my "light duty" was assisting the BFIST course because I was a. J3. We spent almost the entire summer in our Tshirts only. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:16:57 AM EDT
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no shit. and we have to launch a "pilot" program to see if it is a feasible idea. fucking stupidity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... no shit. and we have to launch a "pilot" program to see if it is a feasible idea. fucking stupidity. I would be interested to see the observed "performance metrics" involved in deciding whether this pilot program is "working" or not... I'm sure there's a power point somewhere. 
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:17:27 AM EDT
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As much as I'm not a fan of rolling sleeves (I think it looks dumb and will only take up more time and effort), this is a good thing. SGM Dailey is listening to what soldiers want/need, trying out new ideas, and solidly grounding himself with the lower enlisted. So much better than what we've had in recent years with upper levels of command just doing their own thing and dragging the rest of us along with them. +1 |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:19:28 AM EDT
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We grow more pathetic everyday.
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:23:06 AM EDT
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and most people are smart enough to pull the sleeves down if needed Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always thought disallowing it was world grade dumb...and before someone pipes up about sun burn...most peoples lower arms don't burn like the rest of the body.... and most people are smart enough to pull the sleeves down if needed either EVERYONE has them up, or EVERYONE has them down..... you cant decide yourself. why that's, that's... anarchy ! 
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:28:14 AM EDT
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... Show me an officer that isn't an absolute fucking megalomaniac and First Sergeants are little more than the commander's bitch boy anymore. They worry so much about the stupid shit that they have no fucking clue how to fix the big problems, because more often than not, they *ARE* the big problems. Also stupid shit piles upon stupid shit, and every little butterbar dreams of the day his personal piece of stupid shit will be added to the pile. Problem is that when they leave, their stupid shit never goes with them and the amount of shit atop all the other stupid shit we are forced to wade through ensures that we will never be able to remove it. They allow us in the Air Force to wear a squadron morale tee shirt on Fridays, but only Fridays and it has to be approved by the commander, and of course, there was a six month study to figure out if it works or not. Now you get asked where your morale tee shirt is, implying there is such a thing as morale. Otherwise we have to wear the sand tee shirt, because we fight war in the desert, but desert colored boots are verboten, so we must wear green boots because reasons. Who fucking cares what color the tee shirt we wear is? And who wasted the time and money deciding that we needed to study whether or not wearing a different tee shirt on Fridays was a good idea or not? If it's hot, roll your fucking sleeves. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:28:31 AM EDT
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I didn't even realize it had been disallowed. I'll now crawl back into my hole in the ground.
The only thing I can see wrong with what they are doing is not rolling the sleeves such that the outer camo pattern is visible, instead of the inside of the fabric being visible. The latter is a USN/USMC thing, or at least used to be. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 10:30:37 AM EDT
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I loved having my sleeves rolled. Only take like 5 minutes.
Although the Marine Corps made required to wear woodland cammies in the winter with sleeves down. In Hawaii, it sucks.  I kept my sleeves like I like my pussy. Clean and tight. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:00:01 AM EDT
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rolled wrong. it needs to be rolled so you can pull it down in one fluid motion in case of a gas attack
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I loved having my sleeves rolled. Only take like 5 minutes. Although the Marine Corps made required to wear woodland cammies in the winter with sleeves down. In Hawaii, it sucks. http://media.defense.gov/2016/Apr/22/2001521136/636/305/0/160415-M-QA266-333.JPG I kept my sleeves like I like my pussy. Clean and tight. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:07:05 AM EDT
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I didn't even realize it had been disallowed. I'll now crawl back into my hole in the ground. The only thing I can see wrong with what they are doing is not rolling the sleeves such that the outer camo pattern is visible, instead of the inside of the fabric being visible. The latter is a USN/USMC thing, or at least used to be. Yeah, they pulled the rolled sleeves in 2005 or 2006. The ACU didn't really roll well with all the velcro and pockets and shit. They're in the debate phase of whether to do it Marine style or old BDU style with the cuff folded down. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:07:30 AM EDT
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rolled wrong. it needs to be rolled so you can pull it down in one fluid motion in case of a gas attack
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I loved having my sleeves rolled. Only take like 5 minutes. Although the Marine Corps made required to wear woodland cammies in the winter with sleeves down. In Hawaii, it sucks. http://media.defense.gov/2016/Apr/22/2001521136/636/305/0/160415-M-QA266-333.JPG I kept my sleeves like I like my pussy. Clean and tight. That's a risk most of us are willing to take aboard Camp Pendleton. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:08:00 AM EDT
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Show me an officer that isn't an absolute fucking megalomaniac and First Sergeants are little more than the commander's bitch boy anymore. They worry so much about the stupid shit that they have no fucking clue how to fix the big problems, because more often than not, they *ARE* the big problems. Also stupid shit piles upon stupid shit, and every little butterbar dreams of the day his personal piece of stupid shit will be added to the pile. Problem is that when they leave, their stupid shit never goes with them and the amount of shit atop all the other stupid shit we are forced to wade through ensures that we will never be able to remove it. They allow us in the Air Force to wear a squadron morale tee shirt on Fridays, but only Fridays and it has to be approved by the commander, and of course, there was a six month study to figure out if it works or not. Now you get asked where your morale tee shirt is, implying there is such a thing as morale. Otherwise we have to wear the sand tee shirt, because we fight war in the desert, but desert colored boots are verboten, so we must wear green boots because reasons. Who fucking cares what color the tee shirt we wear is? And who wasted the time and money deciding that we needed to study whether or not wearing a different tee shirt on Fridays was a good idea or not? If it's hot, roll your fucking sleeves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... Show me an officer that isn't an absolute fucking megalomaniac and First Sergeants are little more than the commander's bitch boy anymore. They worry so much about the stupid shit that they have no fucking clue how to fix the big problems, because more often than not, they *ARE* the big problems. Also stupid shit piles upon stupid shit, and every little butterbar dreams of the day his personal piece of stupid shit will be added to the pile. Problem is that when they leave, their stupid shit never goes with them and the amount of shit atop all the other stupid shit we are forced to wade through ensures that we will never be able to remove it. They allow us in the Air Force to wear a squadron morale tee shirt on Fridays, but only Fridays and it has to be approved by the commander, and of course, there was a six month study to figure out if it works or not. Now you get asked where your morale tee shirt is, implying there is such a thing as morale. Otherwise we have to wear the sand tee shirt, because we fight war in the desert, but desert colored boots are verboten, so we must wear green boots because reasons. Who fucking cares what color the tee shirt we wear is? And who wasted the time and money deciding that we needed to study whether or not wearing a different tee shirt on Fridays was a good idea or not? If it's hot, roll your fucking sleeves. lol, show me on the doll where the bad officer touched you |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:08:54 AM EDT
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Dumbest fuckin things ever:
Back in '91, base commander ft stupid, wouldn't allow us to work in our t-shirts, instead said we could remove our t-shits and put our BDU tops back on to stay cool 
That didn't last long though after people complained to the IG. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:09:02 AM EDT
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They have to roll em like Marines? LMFAO.
Was the old way really that fucking hard to do for the new troops? |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:16:22 AM EDT
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Once again, LOL Army
First world problems |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:25:37 AM EDT
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We just downgrade to t-shirts anyways when its hot as fuck. This right here |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:27:55 AM EDT
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Rolling the Army way took extra talent. The reason rolling wasnt done is that in a desert environment, any temp over your body temp adds heat to you. This is one reason those who live in the desert cover up so much as cover keeps you cooler. The Army did find lower heat casualties when a t-shirt was retained as opposed to going shirtless. Your discomfort may be better for you.
Does anyone recall the 4 heat levels back in the day that when the did the sling phsycometer test to measure relative humidity and you got to unblouse your pants and wear a t shirt at certain relative humudity levels. When it was top level you had to do PT at 3 am to avoid the high heat and humidity--this was at Ft Jackson. A few years later I got some hot weather BDUS but was in the guard in MN. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:29:22 AM EDT
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I wonder if they're going to make them wear it like the Navy does with the NWU's... they look like shit!
Eta: versus mine in 2009: 
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:30:41 AM EDT
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We just downgrade to t-shirts anyways when its hot as fuck. This right here We always had to put them back on for formations and all that. It was nice being able to roll sleeves up when you were standing around waiting for bullshit formations and all to start. We could only go to t-shirts if we were outside working at the motor pool or something. Or dicking with conexes.. shit like that. But then again rolled sleeves were verboten soon after I got to Bragg.. so I only spent a couple months doign that. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:32:49 AM EDT
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Dont they issue or at least approve jungle utilities anymore?
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:33:50 AM EDT
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I wonder if they're going to make them wear it like the Navy does with the NWU's... they look like shit! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/kriegsafe/web_100816-N-9818V-398.jpg https://strikehold.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/002-nwu-type-iii.jpg?w=600&h=398 Speaking of that ...when is the premier of this seaon's... The Last Ship gonna start? |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:35:55 AM EDT
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For the first time, troops facing the summer heat are being permitted to roll up their uniform sleeves as part of a pilot program launched by the Army in Fort Hood, Texas. If successful, the 10-day trial run, which ends on Sunday, may be extended to bases across the country. It would allow soldiers to roll up their sleeves on the Army combat uniform during the hot summer months -- something that has been prohibited since 2005. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/politics/army-rolled-up-sleeves/index.html I never realized they disallowed it after I got out. Lol, "pilot program" and "trial run" for something as trivial as rolling sleeves up in warm weather. What in the hell? I am so glad I got out of the Army. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:36:16 AM EDT
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How many power points were made on the subject?
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:47:08 AM EDT
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As medics we would call command It's heat cat. IV
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Dumbest fuckin things ever: Back in '91, base commander ft stupid, wouldn't allow us to work in our t-shirts, instead said we could remove our t-shits and put our BDU tops back on to stay cool
That didn't last long though after people complained to the IG. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:57:27 AM EDT
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You guys are really missing out on a great opportunity to get an epic farmer's tan. A stylish one though, because it comes with a "fabulous" band of white across your wrist from your watch.
A ten day trial LOL. Who comes up with this shit?
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Posted: 6/23/2016 11:59:40 AM EDT
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We just downgrade to t-shirts anyways when its hot as fuck. I concur! 
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Posted: 6/23/2016 12:01:13 PM EDT
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I wonder if they're going to make them wear it like the Navy does with the NWU's... they look like shit! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/kriegsafe/web_100816-N-9818V-398.jpg https://strikehold.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/002-nwu-type-iii.jpg?w=600&h=398 Eta: versus mine in 2009: http://i.imgur.com/zfIdeaI.jpg?1 That Sailor on the right in the first photo didn't even try to roll up the sleeves correctly. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 12:12:15 PM EDT
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Pilot program? Trial run? Already been done, it's called pre-acu, aka, pre 2006.
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Posted: 6/23/2016 12:13:59 PM EDT
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... Show me an officer that isn't an absolute fucking megalomaniac and First Sergeants are little more than the commander's bitch boy anymore. They worry so much about the stupid shit that they have no fucking clue how to fix the big problems, because more often than not, they *ARE* the big problems. Also stupid shit piles upon stupid shit, and every little butterbar dreams of the day his personal piece of stupid shit will be added to the pile. Problem is that when they leave, their stupid shit never goes with them and the amount of shit atop all the other stupid shit we are forced to wade through ensures that we will never be able to remove it. They allow us in the Air Force to wear a squadron morale tee shirt on Fridays, but only Fridays and it has to be approved by the commander, and of course, there was a six month study to figure out if it works or not. Now you get asked where your morale tee shirt is, implying there is such a thing as morale. Otherwise we have to wear the sand tee shirt, because we fight war in the desert, but desert colored boots are verboten, so we must wear green boots because reasons. Who fucking cares what color the tee shirt we wear is? And who wasted the time and money deciding that we needed to study whether or not wearing a different tee shirt on Fridays was a good idea or not? If it's hot, roll your fucking sleeves. lol, show me on the doll where the bad officer touched you All over the everywhere. I met two officers that were worth a shit, both were former E7s. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 12:38:00 PM EDT
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All over the everywhere. I met two officers that were worth a shit, both were former E7s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... Show me an officer that isn't an absolute fucking megalomaniac and First Sergeants are little more than the commander's bitch boy anymore. They worry so much about the stupid shit that they have no fucking clue how to fix the big problems, because more often than not, they *ARE* the big problems. Also stupid shit piles upon stupid shit, and every little butterbar dreams of the day his personal piece of stupid shit will be added to the pile. Problem is that when they leave, their stupid shit never goes with them and the amount of shit atop all the other stupid shit we are forced to wade through ensures that we will never be able to remove it. They allow us in the Air Force to wear a squadron morale tee shirt on Fridays, but only Fridays and it has to be approved by the commander, and of course, there was a six month study to figure out if it works or not. Now you get asked where your morale tee shirt is, implying there is such a thing as morale. Otherwise we have to wear the sand tee shirt, because we fight war in the desert, but desert colored boots are verboten, so we must wear green boots because reasons. Who fucking cares what color the tee shirt we wear is? And who wasted the time and money deciding that we needed to study whether or not wearing a different tee shirt on Fridays was a good idea or not? If it's hot, roll your fucking sleeves. lol, show me on the doll where the bad officer touched you All over the everywhere. I met two officers that were worth a shit, both were former E7s. Having been on both sides of the coin, I always think it's funny the hate officers get. What, is there something about a kid straight out of highschool that makes them a better military man than someone who went to college? Are officers worse because they went to college and got more training than their enlisted counterparts? Give me a break. Yeah, there's some really shitty officers. Due to the nature of what they do they're skylined a lot more than a shitty LCpl, and rightly so. There's also a lot of really fucking great officers. Prior enlisted, academy, ROTC, and OCC/PLC whatever. I've also known shitty officers from all those groups too- even the often worshiped prior enlisted camp. FWIW I've known some really shitty SNCO's too... |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 12:57:37 PM EDT
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Having been on both sides of the coin, I always think it's funny the hate officers get. What, is there something about a kid straight out of highschool that makes them a better military man than someone who went to college? Are officers worse because they went to college and got more training than their enlisted counterparts? Give me a break. Yeah, there's some really shitty officers. Due to the nature of what they do they're skylined a lot more than a shitty LCpl, and rightly so. There's also a lot of really fucking great officers. Prior enlisted, academy, ROTC, and OCC/PLC whatever. I've also known shitty officers from all those groups too- even the often worshiped prior enlisted camp. FWIW I've known some really shitty SNCO's too... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... Show me an officer that isn't an absolute fucking megalomaniac and First Sergeants are little more than the commander's bitch boy anymore. They worry so much about the stupid shit that they have no fucking clue how to fix the big problems, because more often than not, they *ARE* the big problems. Also stupid shit piles upon stupid shit, and every little butterbar dreams of the day his personal piece of stupid shit will be added to the pile. Problem is that when they leave, their stupid shit never goes with them and the amount of shit atop all the other stupid shit we are forced to wade through ensures that we will never be able to remove it. They allow us in the Air Force to wear a squadron morale tee shirt on Fridays, but only Fridays and it has to be approved by the commander, and of course, there was a six month study to figure out if it works or not. Now you get asked where your morale tee shirt is, implying there is such a thing as morale. Otherwise we have to wear the sand tee shirt, because we fight war in the desert, but desert colored boots are verboten, so we must wear green boots because reasons. Who fucking cares what color the tee shirt we wear is? And who wasted the time and money deciding that we needed to study whether or not wearing a different tee shirt on Fridays was a good idea or not? If it's hot, roll your fucking sleeves. lol, show me on the doll where the bad officer touched you All over the everywhere. I met two officers that were worth a shit, both were former E7s. Having been on both sides of the coin, I always think it's funny the hate officers get. What, is there something about a kid straight out of highschool that makes them a better military man than someone who went to college? Are officers worse because they went to college and got more training than their enlisted counterparts? Give me a break. Yeah, there's some really shitty officers. Due to the nature of what they do they're skylined a lot more than a shitty LCpl, and rightly so. There's also a lot of really fucking great officers. Prior enlisted, academy, ROTC, and OCC/PLC whatever. I've also known shitty officers from all those groups too- even the often worshiped prior enlisted camp. FWIW I've known some really shitty SNCO's too... The hate for the officers comes from the same area that I hated a large percentage of NCO's... Stupid petty shit on a daily basis. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 1:04:02 PM EDT
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It kind of looks stupid because of where the unit patches are at. Back in the day it was at the crest of the shoulder. Now that its mid bicep patches are going to be half covered and poping out because of the velcro.
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Posted: 6/23/2016 1:09:51 PM EDT
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How many power points were made on the subject? A brigade command will come from this. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 1:24:18 PM EDT
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Show me an officer that isn't an absolute fucking megalomaniac and First Sergeants are little more than the commander's bitch boy anymore. They worry so much about the stupid shit that they have no fucking clue how to fix the big problems, because more often than not, they *ARE* the big problems. Also stupid shit piles upon stupid shit, and every little butterbar dreams of the day his personal piece of stupid shit will be added to the pile. Problem is that when they leave, their stupid shit never goes with them and the amount of shit atop all the other stupid shit we are forced to wade through ensures that we will never be able to remove it. They allow us in the Air Force to wear a squadron morale tee shirt on Fridays, but only Fridays and it has to be approved by the commander, and of course, there was a six month study to figure out if it works or not. Now you get asked where your morale tee shirt is, implying there is such a thing as morale. Otherwise we have to wear the sand tee shirt, because we fight war in the desert, but desert colored boots are verboten, so we must wear green boots because reasons. Who fucking cares what color the tee shirt we wear is? And who wasted the time and money deciding that we needed to study whether or not wearing a different tee shirt on Fridays was a good idea or not? If it's hot, roll your fucking sleeves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am glad the morons in the Pentagon worry about the important things.... Show me an officer that isn't an absolute fucking megalomaniac and First Sergeants are little more than the commander's bitch boy anymore. They worry so much about the stupid shit that they have no fucking clue how to fix the big problems, because more often than not, they *ARE* the big problems. Also stupid shit piles upon stupid shit, and every little butterbar dreams of the day his personal piece of stupid shit will be added to the pile. Problem is that when they leave, their stupid shit never goes with them and the amount of shit atop all the other stupid shit we are forced to wade through ensures that we will never be able to remove it. They allow us in the Air Force to wear a squadron morale tee shirt on Fridays, but only Fridays and it has to be approved by the commander, and of course, there was a six month study to figure out if it works or not. Now you get asked where your morale tee shirt is, implying there is such a thing as morale. Otherwise we have to wear the sand tee shirt, because we fight war in the desert, but desert colored boots are verboten, so we must wear green boots because reasons. Who fucking cares what color the tee shirt we wear is? And who wasted the time and money deciding that we needed to study whether or not wearing a different tee shirt on Fridays was a good idea or not? If it's hot, roll your fucking sleeves. Holy shit, Air Force, did the compliance officer come in and set the thermostat back to 76 or something? |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 1:24:18 PM EDT
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The hate for the officers comes from the same area that I hated a large percentage of NCO's... Stupid petty shit on a daily basis. Well...I don't know what service you're in, but my experience has been it's more often the senior enlisted worried about petty shit like beanies and hands in pockets and the officers are more concerned about mission accomplishment. Again, I've been on both sides I have a pretty decent idea of what's actually going on. |
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Posted: 6/23/2016 1:32:53 PM EDT
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lol, show me on the doll where the bad officer touched you All over the everywhere. I met two officers that were worth a shit, both were former E7s. Having been on both sides of the coin, I always think it's funny the hate officers get. What, is there something about a kid straight out of highschool that makes them a better military man than someone who went to college? Are officers worse because they went to college and got more training than their enlisted counterparts? Give me a break. Yeah, there's some really shitty officers. Due to the nature of what they do they're skylined a lot more than a shitty LCpl, and rightly so. There's also a lot of really fucking great officers. Prior enlisted, academy, ROTC, and OCC/PLC whatever. I've also known shitty officers from all those groups too- even the often worshiped prior enlisted camp. FWIW I've known some really shitty SNCO's too... The hate for the officers comes from the same area that I hated a large percentage of NCO's... Stupid petty shit on a daily basis. Oh, horseshit. There hasn't been an army in existence since Moses parted the Red Sea where joe didn't hate officers. The only thing that has ever changed in the last 10,000 years was the creation of the First Sergeant and the Sergeant Major, so joe could have someone else to hate. |
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Yeah, they pulled the rolled sleeves in 2005 or 2006. The ACU didn't really roll well with all the velcro and pockets and shit. They're in the debate phase of whether to do it Marine style or old BDU style with the cuff folded down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I didn't even realize it had been disallowed. I'll now crawl back into my hole in the ground. The only thing I can see wrong with what they are doing is not rolling the sleeves such that the outer camo pattern is visible, instead of the inside of the fabric being visible. The latter is a USN/USMC thing, or at least used to be. Yeah, they pulled the rolled sleeves in 2005 or 2006. The ACU didn't really roll well with all the velcro and pockets and shit. They're in the debate phase of whether to do it Marine style or old BDU style with the cuff folded down. Woodland BDUs always looked pretty sharp with the proper cuff-down sleeve roll. If they go the Marine route, that's just anarchy. Next thing you know, Army be rolling up their pants into capris. This isn't to say that capris are without thermal merit, just that it's anarchy. Total fucking anarchy. We can't have that. Cuff down. |
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