[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Slaughterhouse-Five (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/22/2016 6:58:00 AM EDT
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Fuck this book with a rusty cactus. Fuck Kurt Vonnegut, in fact perhaps I should have his body exhumed and fuck his corpse with the rusty cactus. It's so schizophrenicly written, full of pussys and focused on male penis' that the dude had to be gay. His writing style is pathetic, he's used lugubrious more often than any other fucking author in history. I was impressed the first time I read it, but after several references, it lost its meaning. Kurt, your ambiguity in theme, and seemingly anti-American sentiments mean you are an asshole. I hope you had to find a second job or eat out of dumpsters. Fuck you
This is the latest book I've read while recovering from my four level spinal fusion. Am I missing something? Thought this book was supposed to be a classic. I'm going to read Killing Pablo next. I need something more awesome. Edit: Rant over |
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The dude (Vonnegut actually) lived through the bombing of Dresden, and being made to "clean up" afterwards. That will tend to warp you in some or other. I understand it's somewhat autobiographical, that means he's a pussy too. Pulling charred bloated corpses of women and children from their homes all day long for weeks makes you a pussy? 
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Pulling charred bloated corpses of women and children from their homes all day long for weeks makes you a pussy? Quoted:
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The dude (Vonnegut actually) lived through the bombing of Dresden, and being made to "clean up" afterwards. That will tend to warp you in some or other. I understand it's somewhat autobiographical, that means he's a pussy too. Pulling charred bloated corpses of women and children from their homes all day long for weeks makes you a pussy? No writing about how pathetic the US GIs were compared to everyone else in the war makes you a pussy. |
| Kurt Vonnegut-Fought at Battle of the Bulge(captured, I know you like heroes who weren't captured) POW and great author. The guy can say what he wants. He was there, you weren't. Tell us about your experiences in battle and being a POW. Hell make up some, I'm sure you'll be considered an equal with Vonnegut. |
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I understand that, I just hate how he made American GIs sound like pussies. And he can't write for shit. Quoted:
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It's about a mentally ill former POW with PTSD. I understand that, I just hate how he made American GIs sound like pussies. And he can't write for shit. Vonnegut was actually a hard as nails infantry scout. The two scouts who walk past Billy Pilgrim (and then get killed by the Germans) are Vonnegut and his buddy. |
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Vonnegut was actually a hard as nails infantry scout. The two scouts who walk past Billy Pilgrim (and then get killed by the Germans) are Vonnegut and his buddy. Quoted:
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It's about a mentally ill former POW with PTSD. I understand that, I just hate how he made American GIs sound like pussies. And he can't write for shit. Vonnegut was actually a hard as nails infantry scout. The two scouts who walk past Billy Pilgrim (and then get killed by the Germans) are Vonnegut and his buddy. And he had valid criticisms about the initial equipment of American GIs (who had uniforms he later described as "dogshit brown") compared to the Germans' winter camo and cold weather gear. |
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Vonnegut was actually a hard as nails infantry scout. The two scouts who walk past Billy Pilgrim (and then get killed by the Germans) are Vonnegut and his buddy. Quoted:
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It's about a mentally ill former POW with PTSD. I understand that, I just hate how he made American GIs sound like pussies. And he can't write for shit. Vonnegut was actually a hard as nails infantry scout. The two scouts who walk past Billy Pilgrim (and then get killed by the Germans) are Vonnegut and his buddy. Interesting. |
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Fuck this book with a rusty cactus. Fuck Kurt Vonnegut, in fact perhaps I should have his body exhumed and fuck his corpse with the rusty cactus. It's so schizophrenicly written, full of pussys and focused on male penis' that the dude had to be gay. His writing style is pathetic, he's used lugubrious more often than any other fucking author in history. I was impressed the first time I read it, but after several references, it lost its meaning. Kurt, your ambiguity in theme, and seemingly anti-American sentiments mean you are an asshole. I hope you had to find a second job or eat out of dumpsters. Fuck you This is the latest book I've read while recovering from my four level spinal fusion. Am I missing something? Thought this book was supposed to be a classic. I'm going to read Killing Pablo next. I need something more awesome. Edit: Rant over I think you are completely wrong. Vonnegut was an infantry scout before being captured and sent to Dresden. Where he survived a city being burnt to the ground around him and then spent weeks afterwards pulling bodies out of the rubble at gun point. Youve completely missed the whole point of the book. People wanted him to write an anti-war book. A book that glorified the things he lived through as a shining example of why war is bad. Yet the "pussy" you refer to, Billy, is actually himself. The thoughts and actions of Billy are actually what he himself thought during the war. He thought himself a coward, thought he was a pussy, thought he let every down around him. HE blamed himself for everything that occured there. He particularly blamed himself for wanting just to go home and live a normal life without making a peep and making no waves. To just go home and raise a family and run a midly successful busniess until his last dieing day. He particularly loathed himself for surviving the war and being given this chance to complete these tasks he yurned for. Espicially when so many others died around him . So the "pussy" your referring to is actually the self reflectance of a decorated soldier who survived one of the worst things a man has ever perpetrated on itself. EDIT: to add, OP should go back to reading American Sniper or something else if thinking is too much for him. |
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Youve completely missed the whole point of the book. People wanted him to write an anti-war book. A book that glorified the things he lived through as a shining example of why war is bad. Yet the "pussy" you refer to, Billy, is actually himself. The thoughts and actions of Billy are actually what he himself thought during the war. He thought himself a coward, thought he was a pussy, thought he let every down around him. HE blamed himself for everything that occured there. He particularly blamed himself for wanting just to go home and live a normal life without making a peep and making no waves. To just go home and raise a family and run a midly successful busniess until his last dieing day. He particularly loathed himself for surviving the war and being given this chance to complete these tasks he yurned for. Espicially when so many others died around him . So the "pussy" your referring to is actually the self reflectance of a decorated soldier who survived one of the worst things a man has ever perpetrated on itself. I met Vonnegut back around 1985 or 1986, when he gave a speech at the university I went to. He gave a long answer about Billy, stating almost exactly what is quoted above. And even then was pretty emotional discussing it. I have a signed copy of this book from that event. |
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"All Quiet on the Western Front" is a masterpiece.
The author of that book was a WWI soldier I don't think the OP would like it though. The author thought that a giant insane slaughter of every able-bodied man in Europe was a bad thing. He didn't realize that it was actually neato. |
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I met Vonnegut back around 1985 or 1986, when he gave a speech at the university I went to. He gave a long answer about Billy, stating almost exactly what is quoted above. And even then was pretty emotional discussing it. I have a signed copy of this book from that event. Quoted:
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Youve completely missed the whole point of the book. People wanted him to write an anti-war book. A book that glorified the things he lived through as a shining example of why war is bad. Yet the "pussy" you refer to, Billy, is actually himself. The thoughts and actions of Billy are actually what he himself thought during the war. He thought himself a coward, thought he was a pussy, thought he let every down around him. HE blamed himself for everything that occured there. He particularly blamed himself for wanting just to go home and live a normal life without making a peep and making no waves. To just go home and raise a family and run a midly successful busniess until his last dieing day. He particularly loathed himself for surviving the war and being given this chance to complete these tasks he yurned for. Espicially when so many others died around him . So the "pussy" your referring to is actually the self reflectance of a decorated soldier who survived one of the worst things a man has ever perpetrated on itself. I met Vonnegut back around 1985 or 1986, when he gave a speech at the university I went to. He gave a long answer about Billy, stating almost exactly what is quoted above. And even then was pretty emotional discussing it. I have a signed copy of this book from that event. Even with all of that being true, his writing style and recycled characters still suck. |
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"All Quiet on the Western Front" is a masterpiece. The author of that book was a WWI soldier I don't think the OP would like it though. The author thought that a giant insane slaughter of every able-bodied man in Europe was a bad thing. He didn't realize that it was actually neato. It's on my list to read. |
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I understand that, I just hate how he made American GIs sound like pussies. And he can't write for shit. Quoted:
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It's about a mentally ill former POW with PTSD. I understand that, I just hate how he made American GIs sound like pussies. And he can't write for shit. No, he made American GIs sound like humans. We can't all be superheroes. His writing style is just fine. Take more pain meds. |
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"Hocus Pocus" got passed around my entire platoon; Eugene Debs Hartke was another great military character of his. http://www.rulit.me/programRead.php?program_id=326997&page=1 |
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No, he made American GIs sound like humans. We can't all be superheroes. His writing style is just fine. Take more pain meds. Quoted:
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It's about a mentally ill former POW with PTSD. I understand that, I just hate how he made American GIs sound like pussies. And he can't write for shit. No, he made American GIs sound like humans. We can't all be superheroes. His writing style is just fine. Take more pain meds. No more pain meds. I stopped those a week ago. |
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Just another European socialist who hated America while benefiting from her existence.  Yep... Just another European socialist born and raised in Indianapolis, IN who joined the US army during WWII where he was captured by the Germans in the Battle of the Bulge. |
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 I always think of the movie scene where Valerie Perrine jumps on Billy's back. SIDE BOOB!!! Lots of side boob!!! |
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Try Clinton Cash. That should twist your spine right on up.
Oh, Vonnegut had some interesting war experiences ...might have contributed to his perspective. Nothin like a good war time survival to really draw out distinctions between right and wrong. I've always enjoyed his novels. He's not Mark Twain but he's pretty good. Even Twain penned some stinky shit. |
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Kurt Vonnegut-Fought at Battle of the Bulge(captured, I know you like heroes who weren't captured) POW and great author. The guy can say what he wants. He was there, you weren't. Tell us about your experiences in battle and being a POW. Hell make up some, I'm sure you'll be considered an equal with Vonnegut. Quoted:
Kurt Vonnegut-Fought at Battle of the Bulge(captured, I know you like heroes who weren't captured) POW and great author. The guy can say what he wants. He was there, you weren't. Tell us about your experiences in battle and being a POW. Hell make up some, I'm sure you'll be considered an equal with Vonnegut. Not to mention bombed by the Germans, (then as a POW) the British, Americans, and I believe Russians. ETA: On about February 14th the Americans came over, followed by the R.A.F. their combined labors killed 250,000 people in twenty-four hours and destroyed all of Dresden -- possibly the world's most beautiful city. But not me. After that we were put to work carrying corpses from Air-Raid shelters; women, children, old men; dead from concussion, fire or suffocation. Civilians cursed us and threw rocks as we carried bodies to huge funeral pyres in the city. When General Patton took Leipzig we were evacuated on foot to ('the Saxony-Czechoslovakian border'?). There we remained until the war ended. Our guards deserted us. On that happy day the Russians were intent on mopping up isolated outlaw resistance in our sector. Their planes (P-39's) strafed and bombed us, killing fourteen, but not me. |
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Yep... Just another European socialist born and raised in Indianapolis, IN who joined the US army during WWII where he was captured by the Germans in the Battle of the Bulge. Quoted:
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Just another European socialist who hated America while benefiting from her existence. Yep... Just another European socialist born and raised in Indianapolis, IN who joined the US army during WWII where he was captured by the Germans in the Battle of the Bulge. well aware of who he is and where he's from, he still believed in European socialism and had a dislike for America in general..Hell, most of them did..until they died or had a wake up call due to Hitlers socialism, death camps in Soviet Russia etc..even Heinlein dithered in it a bit though he matured with a Libertarian bent as he aged.. need any more proof that one can live here and hate our history? POTUS Obama, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid...I can go on.. |