Posted: 6/16/2016 9:22:10 AM EDT
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Our problem is, we are not very good at activism. We don't like conflict and want to be left the fuck alone.
We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. I guess that work thing and raising the family gets in the way of fighting back. We need to be in the streets and in their faces, ugly as that seems, it will need to happen. |
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Our problem is, we are not very good at activism. We don't like conflict and want to be left the fuck alone. We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. I guess that work thing and raising the family gets in the way of fighting back. We need to be in the streets and in their faces, ugly as that seems, it will need to happen. That's a bold assumption seeing how bad Obama spanked the last two "more conservative" Presidential Candidates. Conservatives would do themselves the most favors by sticking with the parts of their message that does resonate with the majority of non-liberal voters. Taxes, Spending, and Military Strength. They also need to adopt a pro-freedom plank that follows the whole "that which doesn't break my leg, or pick my pocket" ethos. |
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That's a bold assumption seeing how bad Obama spanked the last two "more conservative" Presidential Candidates. Conservatives would do themselves the most favors by sticking with the parts of their message that does resonate with the majority of non-liberal voters. Taxes, Spending, and Military Strength. They also need to adopt a pro-freedom plank that follows the whole "that which doesn't break my leg, or pick my pocket" ethos. Quoted:
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Our problem is, we are not very good at activism. We don't like conflict and want to be left the fuck alone. We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. I guess that work thing and raising the family gets in the way of fighting back. We need to be in the streets and in their faces, ugly as that seems, it will need to happen. That's a bold assumption seeing how bad Obama spanked the last two "more conservative" Presidential Candidates. Conservatives would do themselves the most favors by sticking with the parts of their message that does resonate with the majority of non-liberal voters. Taxes, Spending, and Military Strength. They also need to adopt a pro-freedom plank that follows the whole "that which doesn't break my leg, or pick my pocket" ethos. I think you may have just made my point. Conservatives can't even get out and vote. |
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They are the other party that likes big government, but only behind closed doors. Conservative does not equal Republican. I'm not talking about party here. Our DNA does not lend itself to activism. The DNA of the Lib does not lend itself to rational thinking or logic, it's emotion driven. |
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I think you may have just made my point. Conservatives can't even get out and vote. Quoted:
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Our problem is, we are not very good at activism. We don't like conflict and want to be left the fuck alone. We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. I guess that work thing and raising the family gets in the way of fighting back. We need to be in the streets and in their faces, ugly as that seems, it will need to happen. That's a bold assumption seeing how bad Obama spanked the last two "more conservative" Presidential Candidates. Conservatives would do themselves the most favors by sticking with the parts of their message that does resonate with the majority of non-liberal voters. Taxes, Spending, and Military Strength. They also need to adopt a pro-freedom plank that follows the whole "that which doesn't break my leg, or pick my pocket" ethos. I think you may have just made my point. Conservatives can't even get out and vote. You just made mine, if they don't bother to vote, then they aren't really all that conservative. It's a political identity that is utterly useless without actually casting a ballot. If you mean to identify "Christians" as conservatives, then you can't say "majority" because I don't even know that a majority of people who identify as Christian are actual conservatives, lots of them are very liberal. |
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Most conservatives work for a living.
I'm always curious when I'm at the airport and I see a group of people wearing the same tee-shirts that obviously aren't high school or college kids off to compete. Every time I've checked it's a group of union members off to protest some liberal cause. They're just able to stop doing whatever they do for a living and fly off to the state capital to stand on the sidewalks and make noise. |
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Our problem is, we are not very good at activism. We don't like conflict and want to be left the fuck alone. We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. I guess that work thing and raising the family gets in the way of fighting back. We need to be in the streets and in their faces, ugly as that seems, it will need to happen. Our problem is that we know what true conflict looks like, so we avoid until absolutely necessary. Like all other bullies, Liberals cant stand real conflict. |
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I don't think people are used to having to fight for traditional American values, at least not like what we are faced with now. Politics used to be about economics, taxation, etc., the stuff that it actually takes to run a country.
Read Rules for Radicals. Fight fire with fire. From Wiki (I've read it, but Wiki is easy to reference) : “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. Any of those sound familiar? |
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Our problem is that we know what true conflict looks like, so we avoid until absolutely necessary. Like all other bullies, Liberals cant stand real conflict. Quoted:
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Our problem is, we are not very good at activism. We don't like conflict and want to be left the fuck alone. We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. I guess that work thing and raising the family gets in the way of fighting back. We need to be in the streets and in their faces, ugly as that seems, it will need to happen. Our problem is that we know what true conflict looks like, so we avoid until absolutely necessary. Like all other bullies, Liberals cant stand real conflict. They don't know when to stop, and we don't know when to start. true conflict is too late. |
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Quoted: Conservative does not equal Republican. I'm not talking about party here. Our DNA does not lend itself to activism. The DNA of the Lib does not lend itself to rational thinking or logic, it's emotion driven. Quoted: Quoted: They are the other party that likes big government, but only behind closed doors. Conservative does not equal Republican. I'm not talking about party here. Our DNA does not lend itself to activism. The DNA of the Lib does not lend itself to rational thinking or logic, it's emotion driven. |
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Who is "we"? You are wrongly assuming that all gun owners and AR-15 fans are conservatives. The pro-gun side is handicapping itself if it makes itself synonymous with conservatism. It needs to broaden, not restrict, its appeal. Can you please point out to, where in my post I even mention firearms. Who is making assumptions? It doesn't matter what the issue is, we don't do a good job of fighting for our rights. Any pro 2nd amendment protestors on the streets in your town? |
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That's a bold assumption seeing how bad Obama spanked the last two "more conservative" Presidential Candidates. Conservatives would do themselves the most favors by sticking with the parts of their message that does resonate with the majority of non-liberal voters. Taxes, Spending, and Military Strength. They also need to adopt a pro-freedom plank that follows the whole "that which doesn't break my leg, or pick my pocket" ethos. Quoted:
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Our problem is, we are not very good at activism. We don't like conflict and want to be left the fuck alone. We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. I guess that work thing and raising the family gets in the way of fighting back. We need to be in the streets and in their faces, ugly as that seems, it will need to happen. That's a bold assumption seeing how bad Obama spanked the last two "more conservative" Presidential Candidates. Conservatives would do themselves the most favors by sticking with the parts of their message that does resonate with the majority of non-liberal voters. Taxes, Spending, and Military Strength. They also need to adopt a pro-freedom plank that follows the whole "that which doesn't break my leg, or pick my pocket" ethos. I don't think he spanked anything in the second election. The repubs had two of the shittiest milktoast candidates they could have. without the irs attacks and voter fraud he may have not won at all. |
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Wow just wow.
I'm not conservative and I'm not liberal, I'm effin American through and through. Being American means to stand together in all our differences for the good of all and good of the country. Maybe just maybe the real problem with both sides is they want to choose labels, choose sides, and stand divided . |
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Our problem is, we are not very good at activism. We don't like conflict and want to be left the fuck alone. We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. I guess that work thing and raising the family gets in the way of fighting back. We need to be in the streets and in their faces, ugly as that seems, it will need to happen. The problem is that you are not good at compromise You may have used to be a majority, but that changed around 2014. Acting like Nazis will not help your positions.. |
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Read Vox Day. Conservatism is dead. It accomplished nothing. This is why Trump won the nomination. No one gives a damn whether he passes the purity test. We just want our borders secure and illegals made uncomfortable enough that most of them leave.  That is more of a conservative start than pretty much any douche bag republican has had in a couple of decades. |
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Conservative does not equal Republican. I'm not talking about party here. Our DNA does not lend itself to activism. The DNA of the Lib does not lend itself to rational thinking or logic, it's emotion driven. Quoted:
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They are the other party that likes big government, but only behind closed doors. Conservative does not equal Republican. I'm not talking about party here. Our DNA does not lend itself to activism. The DNA of the Lib does not lend itself to rational thinking or logic, it's emotion driven. or pretty much working for an honest living |
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The problem with conservatives, is we are an all or nothing crowd. The libs will settle for what they can get and keep pushing.
how many here won't vote because the candidate isn't perfect? How many won't support a bill because it doesn't go far enough? How many won't bother writing a letter because it won't fix the problem immediately? The libs win because they understand incrementalism. we eat our own because we can't see beyond what's in front of our faces. |
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We are the majority but somehow we can't sell our message. The perils of the echo chamber. Quoted:
The problem with conservatives, is we are an all or nothing crowd. The libs will settle for what they can get and keep pushing. how many here won't vote because the candidate isn't perfect? How many won't support a bill because it doesn't go far enough? How many won't bother writing a letter because it won't fix the problem immediately? The libs win because they understand incrementalism. we eat our own because we can't see beyond what's in front of our faces. Somebody has a handle on things. |
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There's no agreement on what exactly is a "conservative." There are several factions that each claim the mantle of "conservative": social conservatives (theocrats), economic conservatives, libertarians, neoconservatives (international interventionists), neoliberals (globalists), and so on. How can these groups work together, when many of the things they advocate are mutually contradictory? That's why the Republican Party is in such a state of disrepair. It's a miracle that it can still mount a national presidential campaign.
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1. Work 2. We have shit to lose, unlike the other side.  Don't forget debt. Many have mortgages so they cannot afford to take time off to protest like the libturds do. Get arrested and you don't have $$$ coming in to cover that mortgage. Pay lawyer's fees and now you have even less. When you're a penniless student, you have everything to gain by embracing the "noble" concept of sharing; especially when you have nohing to share but the desire to partake of others' assets. Sharing should come from the heart and not at gunpoint or threat of prison (taxes). |
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1. Work 2. We have shit to lose, unlike the other side. FPNI yep And that's why the Tea Party protests were such a huge deal. People who don't take off work and don't go play politics because they're not cause-heads went out and were pissed. And then they had to get back to work... mostly. |
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Some people drive politics - progressives. Some don't - proles. Some can't drive politics, but eke out a living securing the advances bolder men, women, and transgender identitykin won. They're conservatives.
Every time leftists win a conversation, conservatives are there scant years later delegitimizing holdout opposition to it. Conservatives are the true feminists, the real anti-racists, the authentic egalitarians. They are the Vichy regime of the mind. |