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6/15/2016 2:01:40 PM EDT
Does anyone here think retail is slowly going the way of the dodo?

How long do you think retail will stand as one of the lynch pins of the Main Street Business crowd?

What are your visions of the shopping experience in 30 years?

I see shopping transformed into very large department stores where everything imaginable is on display but, nothing is actually sold in store. Go to the store, finger fuck the stuff you're interested in and swipe your card at the display. Drone delivery to your secure "Drop Box" at home and probably before you can drive back to your house from the store. Custom order? No problem, you can have that tomorrow, it all comes from the same warehouse, anyway.

I picture the skies darkening with retail robots delivering everything from 2 ply toilet paper to 70" TVs. Logistics will be revolutionized with *actual* driverless cars, hauling cargo to large hubs where everything is stored, customized, sorted and delivered to the end user. No more brick and mortar "middle man."

What do y'all think?

Bear in mind that 30 years ago, the very idea of ordering something sight unseen from a website was a completely ludicrous notion. Even catalog sales were dying.
6/15/2016 2:05:25 PM EDT
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I for one welcome our drone overlords.  At least they won't screw up orders as badly, and are less likely to break things because of idiocy or a sense of entitlement.  If I can shop somewhere without having to interact with a living person from entry to payment, I consider that a success.
6/15/2016 2:06:55 PM EDT
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I don't reckon you are far wrong.
6/15/2016 2:07:33 PM EDT
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I for one welcome our drone overlords.  At least they won't screw up orders as badly, and are less likely to break things because of idiocy or a sense of entitlement.
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They also don't get sick, have babies (yet), require health insurance, training, supervision or find a better job.
6/15/2016 2:07:56 PM EDT
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I picture the skies darkening with retail robots delivering everything from 2 ply toilet paper to 70" TVs. Logistics will be revolutionized with *actual* driverless cars, hauling cargo to large hubs where everything is stored, customized, sorted and delivered to the end user. No more brick and mortar "middle man."

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I'm looking forward to this, actually.  It's kind of like a grownup pinata, except you use a 12 gauge instead of a bat, and you get electronics instead of candy.
6/15/2016 2:09:12 PM EDT
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Amazon is wanting to open stores


I assumed for that reason , to get the last hold outs that want to handle stuff first



Probably finally kill off best buy as I think they are just Amazon's showroom anymore anyway , just get the scraps like memory cards and cell phone sales
 
6/15/2016 2:10:03 PM EDT
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I'm looking forward to this, actually.  It's kind of like a grownup pinata, except you use a 12 gauge instead of a bat, and you get electronics instead of candy.
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I picture the skies darkening with retail robots delivering everything from 2 ply toilet paper to 70" TVs. Logistics will be revolutionized with *actual* driverless cars, hauling cargo to large hubs where everything is stored, customized, sorted and delivered to the end user. No more brick and mortar "middle man."



I'm looking forward to this, actually.  It's kind of like a grownup pinata, except you use a 12 gauge instead of a bat, and you get electronics instead of candy.

Probably also looking at 10-20 in a Fed PMITA prison since you'll be shooting down an FAA regulated aircraft, on camera, with GPS and audible distress signal.
6/15/2016 2:11:43 PM EDT
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I do sales for a courier company and it's amazing the transition that we are seeing today.

We have shifted focus from dying payroll deliveries to other fields, such as e-commerce and are wildly successful.  The volume of small parcel that is handled by our company alone would shock most, let alone the big carriers (UPS and FedEx).  We have worked and enacted programs to compete with them and have successfully done so in many arenas.

E-commerce is the future.  Food delivery to your doorstep is here.  Several massive farms that originally required you to pick up use our services and next day delivery to drop off fresh and frozen foods to their customers.

The biggest thing that we see isn't necessarily automation (driverless cars), but trying to maintain costs to remain competitive in a growing field.  Customers want uniformed delivery, delivery notification, accurate delivery and delivery done by people that aren't hoods, but yet, aren't willing to pay for it...  Driverless or drone delivery is still far off, but if they get it down pat, expect a huge change in our attitudes about just in time delivery as well...
6/15/2016 2:15:10 PM EDT
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The future?

Everyone will live solitary in a dome.

Everything will be available online only.

Drone delivery all goods, to a hole on top of our windowless, doorless domes equipped with "Idiocracy" chairs
6/15/2016 2:19:43 PM EDT
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Everyone will live solitary in a dome.

Everything will be available online only.

Drone delivery all goods, to a hole on top of our windowless, doorless domes equipped with "Idiocracy" chairs
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Neat!
6/15/2016 2:23:11 PM EDT
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Everyone will live solitary in a dome.

Everything will be available online only.

Drone delivery all goods, to a hole on top of our windowless, doorless domes equipped with "Idiocracy" chairs



Neat!


I can't wait!

We won't have to yell "GO 'WAY, 'BATIN'!" because one thing Idiocracy got wrong was the lack of hyper realistic sex robots. Can't wait for my dome-harem and floaty chair.

6/15/2016 2:25:53 PM EDT
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all of the stores around here are more crowded on weekends than i've ever seen
6/15/2016 2:26:00 PM EDT
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I do sales for a courier company and it's amazing the transition that we are seeing today.

We have shifted focus from dying payroll deliveries to other fields, such as e-commerce and are wildly successful.  The volume of small parcel that is handled by our company alone would shock most, let alone the big carriers (UPS and FedEx).  We have worked and enacted programs to compete with them and have successfully done so in many arenas.

E-commerce is the future.  Food delivery to your doorstep is here.  Several massive farms that originally required you to pick up use our services and next day delivery to drop off fresh and frozen foods to their customers.

The biggest thing that we see isn't necessarily automation (driverless cars), but trying to maintain costs to remain competitive in a growing field.  Customers want uniformed delivery, delivery notification, accurate delivery and delivery done by people that aren't hoods, but yet, aren't willing to pay for it...  Driverless or drone delivery is still far off, but if they get it down pat, expect a huge change in our attitudes about just in time delivery as well...
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*That's* the part that interests me. 30 years is a looooong time from a technology standpoint. Driverless\drone delivery will be perfected long before we hit the 3 decade mark. In 1986, just 30 short years ago, the PC was something that was just climbing out of the concept stage. Computers were sold, nearly exclusively, to businesses and the notion that we could interconnect the world was the technological equivalent of flying cars.

BUT, what does that do to humans from a social perspective? It will give us less traffic, more free time, fewer hassles with stuff like "I went to the store for Almond Milk but, they were out so I got Soy instead." But, it gives us fewer places to spontaneously interact.

What will the life circumstance expectations become? Will it suddenly be entirely unacceptable to be *forced* to wait a WHOLE DAY for delivery of your 2036 Ford HyperHelix in Cobalt Blue with the Galactic Sport package, Alloy rims and Bose Sound System?

What about food storage and waste? If grocery stores go away, and I think they will, will that reduce or increase food waste at the hub? New storage mediums? New ways of preventing spoilage like we have now with stuff like AgroFresh and meat bleaching/irradiation?

What does this kind of model do for pricing?
6/15/2016 2:29:21 PM EDT
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Yup, OP, I guess you're right.
The only question is "what to do with all the unemployed dumb people?"
The economy doesn't need that many strippers... and you don't want to see Wal-Mart staff stripping, anyway.

Will they all join BLM/ISIS?
Will we be able to get them all hooked on virtual reality MMOs, and then just disconnect the feeding tubes?
Will someone do that to us?
6/15/2016 2:31:54 PM EDT
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*That's* the part that interests me. 30 years is a looooong time from a technology standpoint. Driverless\drone delivery will be perfected long before we hit the 3 decade mark. In 1986, just 30 short years ago, the PC was something that was just climbing out of the concept stage. Computers were sold, nearly exclusively, to businesses and the notion that we could interconnect the world was the technological equivalent of flying cars.

BUT, what does that do to humans from a social perspective? It will give us less traffic, more free time, fewer hassles with stuff like "I went to the store for Almond Milk but, they were out so I got Soy instead." But, it gives us fewer places to spontaneously interact.

What will the life circumstance expectations become? Will it suddenly be entirely unacceptable to be *forced* to wait a WHOLE DAY for delivery of your 2036 Ford HyperHelix in Cobalt Blue with the Galactic Sport package, Alloy rims and Bose Sound System?

What about food storage and waste? If grocery stores go away, and I think they will, will that reduce or increase food waste at the hub? New storage mediums? New ways of preventing spoilage like we have now with stuff like AgroFresh and meat bleaching/irradiation?

What does this kind of model do for pricing?
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I do sales for a courier company and it's amazing the transition that we are seeing today.

We have shifted focus from dying payroll deliveries to other fields, such as e-commerce and are wildly successful.  The volume of small parcel that is handled by our company alone would shock most, let alone the big carriers (UPS and FedEx).  We have worked and enacted programs to compete with them and have successfully done so in many arenas.

E-commerce is the future.  Food delivery to your doorstep is here.  Several massive farms that originally required you to pick up use our services and next day delivery to drop off fresh and frozen foods to their customers.

The biggest thing that we see isn't necessarily automation (driverless cars), but trying to maintain costs to remain competitive in a growing field.  Customers want uniformed delivery, delivery notification, accurate delivery and delivery done by people that aren't hoods, but yet, aren't willing to pay for it...  Driverless or drone delivery is still far off, but if they get it down pat, expect a huge change in our attitudes about just in time delivery as well...

*That's* the part that interests me. 30 years is a looooong time from a technology standpoint. Driverless\drone delivery will be perfected long before we hit the 3 decade mark. In 1986, just 30 short years ago, the PC was something that was just climbing out of the concept stage. Computers were sold, nearly exclusively, to businesses and the notion that we could interconnect the world was the technological equivalent of flying cars.

BUT, what does that do to humans from a social perspective? It will give us less traffic, more free time, fewer hassles with stuff like "I went to the store for Almond Milk but, they were out so I got Soy instead." But, it gives us fewer places to spontaneously interact.

What will the life circumstance expectations become? Will it suddenly be entirely unacceptable to be *forced* to wait a WHOLE DAY for delivery of your 2036 Ford HyperHelix in Cobalt Blue with the Galactic Sport package, Alloy rims and Bose Sound System?

What about food storage and waste? If grocery stores go away, and I think they will, will that reduce or increase food waste at the hub? New storage mediums? New ways of preventing spoilage like we have now with stuff like AgroFresh and meat bleaching/irradiation?

What does this kind of model do for pricing?


You should start to see the first auto-driving cars by 2017-2020.  At that point it is already there- a delivery truck heads to your house, texts you when it is 5 minutes out, and has a drone that leaves the truck with your package to deliver it to your front door.

Even better, mailboxes have GPS locations and RFID tags so the truck pulls up, and can insert the package itself from and arm or a drone (mailbox with landing pad?  why not...)
6/15/2016 2:32:25 PM EDT
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Yup, OP, I guess you're right.
The only question is "what to do with all the unemployed dumb people?"
The economy doesn't need that many strippers... and you don't want to see Wal-Mart staff stripping, anyway.

Will they all join BLM/ISIS?
Will we be able to get them all hooked on virtual reality MMOs, and then just disconnect the feeding tubes?
Will someone do that to us?
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Look up the Luddites. They've already answered your questions.
6/15/2016 2:32:41 PM EDT
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Yup, OP, I guess you're right.
The only question is "what to do with all the unemployed dumb people?"
The economy doesn't need that many strippers... and you don't want to see Wal-Mart staff stripping, anyway.

Will they all join BLM/ISIS?
Will we be able to get them all hooked on virtual reality MMOs, and then just disconnect the feeding tubes?
Will someone do that to us?
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Judge Dredd comic- everyone lives at home, government covers your basic costs, and they are bored and do goofy fads
6/15/2016 2:34:17 PM EDT
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You should start to see the first auto-driving cars by 2017-2020.  At that point it is already there- a delivery truck heads to your house, texts you when it is 5 minutes out, and has a drone that leaves the truck with your package to deliver it to your front door.

Even better, mailboxes have GPS locations and RFID tags so the truck pulls up, and can insert the package itself from and arm or a drone (mailbox with landing pad?  why not...)
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I do sales for a courier company and it's amazing the transition that we are seeing today.

We have shifted focus from dying payroll deliveries to other fields, such as e-commerce and are wildly successful.  The volume of small parcel that is handled by our company alone would shock most, let alone the big carriers (UPS and FedEx).  We have worked and enacted programs to compete with them and have successfully done so in many arenas.

E-commerce is the future.  Food delivery to your doorstep is here.  Several massive farms that originally required you to pick up use our services and next day delivery to drop off fresh and frozen foods to their customers.

The biggest thing that we see isn't necessarily automation (driverless cars), but trying to maintain costs to remain competitive in a growing field.  Customers want uniformed delivery, delivery notification, accurate delivery and delivery done by people that aren't hoods, but yet, aren't willing to pay for it...  Driverless or drone delivery is still far off, but if they get it down pat, expect a huge change in our attitudes about just in time delivery as well...

*That's* the part that interests me. 30 years is a looooong time from a technology standpoint. Driverless\drone delivery will be perfected long before we hit the 3 decade mark. In 1986, just 30 short years ago, the PC was something that was just climbing out of the concept stage. Computers were sold, nearly exclusively, to businesses and the notion that we could interconnect the world was the technological equivalent of flying cars.

BUT, what does that do to humans from a social perspective? It will give us less traffic, more free time, fewer hassles with stuff like "I went to the store for Almond Milk but, they were out so I got Soy instead." But, it gives us fewer places to spontaneously interact.

What will the life circumstance expectations become? Will it suddenly be entirely unacceptable to be *forced* to wait a WHOLE DAY for delivery of your 2036 Ford HyperHelix in Cobalt Blue with the Galactic Sport package, Alloy rims and Bose Sound System?

What about food storage and waste? If grocery stores go away, and I think they will, will that reduce or increase food waste at the hub? New storage mediums? New ways of preventing spoilage like we have now with stuff like AgroFresh and meat bleaching/irradiation?

What does this kind of model do for pricing?


You should start to see the first auto-driving cars by 2017-2020.  At that point it is already there- a delivery truck heads to your house, texts you when it is 5 minutes out, and has a drone that leaves the truck with your package to deliver it to your front door.

Even better, mailboxes have GPS locations and RFID tags so the truck pulls up, and can insert the package itself from and arm or a drone (mailbox with landing pad?  why not...)

That seems more like something that would be implemented. I would want (and would happily pay for) a secure "box" out front, say 5' cubed, that could accept a rolling code to open tied directly to the sales order.

Shit, I may just design and build it.
6/15/2016 2:35:09 PM EDT
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Just like 30 years ago we never envisioned the 2 day wonder that is Amazon....

I bet what we see in 30 years is something we have not yet even conceived.


6/15/2016 2:37:04 PM EDT
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All I know is this

the two retail places that wont go out of business: Grocery stores and auto part stores (unless car manufactures start making vehicles unrepairable )
6/15/2016 2:39:14 PM EDT
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Look up the Luddites. They've already answered your questions.
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Yup, OP, I guess you're right.
The only question is "what to do with all the unemployed dumb people?"
The economy doesn't need that many strippers... and you don't want to see Wal-Mart staff stripping, anyway.

Will they all join BLM/ISIS?
Will we be able to get them all hooked on virtual reality MMOs, and then just disconnect the feeding tubes?
Will someone do that to us?

Look up the Luddites. They've already answered your questions.


Luddites eventually went away because you could repurpose peasants to shovel coal and operate circle grinders (after some instruction).

Today, everything that could be done by a regular idiot will soon be done by robots. Heck, we may have robot prostitutes and soldiers, fairly soon. What happens when there's no occupation for anyone with IQ below 140?
6/15/2016 2:41:22 PM EDT
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Luddites eventually went away because you could repurpose peasants to shovel coal and operate circle grinders (after some instruction).

Today, everything that could be done by a regular idiot will soon be done by robots. Heck, we may have robot prostitutes and soldiers, fairly soon. What happens when there's no occupation for anyone with IQ below 140?
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Yup, OP, I guess you're right.
The only question is "what to do with all the unemployed dumb people?"
The economy doesn't need that many strippers... and you don't want to see Wal-Mart staff stripping, anyway.

Will they all join BLM/ISIS?
Will we be able to get them all hooked on virtual reality MMOs, and then just disconnect the feeding tubes?
Will someone do that to us?

Look up the Luddites. They've already answered your questions.


Luddites eventually went away because you could repurpose peasants to shovel coal and operate circle grinders (after some instruction).

Today, everything that could be done by a regular idiot will soon be done by robots. Heck, we may have robot prostitutes and soldiers, fairly soon. What happens when there's no occupation for anyone with IQ below 140?

Then the rest of the Idiots will starve...

50' penis and an IQ of 1001 right here....
6/15/2016 2:42:52 PM EDT
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Luddites eventually went away because you could repurpose peasants to shovel coal and operate circle grinders (after some instruction).

Today, everything that could be done by a regular idiot will soon be done by robots. Heck, we may have robot prostitutes and soldiers, fairly soon. What happens when there's no occupation for anyone with IQ below 140?
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Yup, OP, I guess you're right.
The only question is "what to do with all the unemployed dumb people?"
The economy doesn't need that many strippers... and you don't want to see Wal-Mart staff stripping, anyway.

Will they all join BLM/ISIS?
Will we be able to get them all hooked on virtual reality MMOs, and then just disconnect the feeding tubes?
Will someone do that to us?

Look up the Luddites. They've already answered your questions.


Luddites eventually went away because you could repurpose peasants to shovel coal and operate circle grinders (after some instruction).

Today, everything that could be done by a regular idiot will soon be done by robots. Heck, we may have robot prostitutes and soldiers, fairly soon. What happens when there's no occupation for anyone with IQ below 140?

People *always* find a purpose. Always. You admit as much in your post. You point out that everything that *can* be automated is being automated and, yet, we still employ the VAST majority of the human population in some capacity.
6/15/2016 2:43:18 PM EDT
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Then the rest of the Idiots will starve...

50' penis and an IQ of 1001 right here....
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Yup, OP, I guess you're right.
The only question is "what to do with all the unemployed dumb people?"
The economy doesn't need that many strippers... and you don't want to see Wal-Mart staff stripping, anyway.

Will they all join BLM/ISIS?
Will we be able to get them all hooked on virtual reality MMOs, and then just disconnect the feeding tubes?
Will someone do that to us?

Look up the Luddites. They've already answered your questions.


Luddites eventually went away because you could repurpose peasants to shovel coal and operate circle grinders (after some instruction).

Today, everything that could be done by a regular idiot will soon be done by robots. Heck, we may have robot prostitutes and soldiers, fairly soon. What happens when there's no occupation for anyone with IQ below 140?

Then the rest of the Idiots will starve...

50' penis and an IQ of 1001 right here....

How do you wash it?
6/15/2016 2:44:01 PM EDT
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Probably also looking at 10-20 in a Fed PMITA prison since you'll be shooting down an FAA regulated aircraft, on camera, with GPS and audible distress signal.
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I picture the skies darkening with retail robots delivering everything from 2 ply toilet paper to 70" TVs. Logistics will be revolutionized with *actual* driverless cars, hauling cargo to large hubs where everything is stored, customized, sorted and delivered to the end user. No more brick and mortar "middle man."



I'm looking forward to this, actually.  It's kind of like a grownup pinata, except you use a 12 gauge instead of a bat, and you get electronics instead of candy.

Probably also looking at 10-20 in a Fed PMITA prison since you'll be shooting down an FAA regulated aircraft, on camera, with GPS and audible distress signal.


If a drone is within range of a 12 gauge, on my property, it is, in my opinion, interfering with a reasonable use of my land (privacy), which is the legal definition of trespassing, and will therefore be shot down on sight.

<edit>  A home/landowner owns the airspace that is required for a reasonable use of the land.
6/15/2016 2:46:48 PM EDT
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the two retail places that wont go out of business: Grocery stores and auto part stores (unless car manufactures start making vehicles unrepairable )
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Grocery stores are already seeing a numbers slip from services like PeaPod and AmazonPantry.

I probably do 20 percent of my "grocery" shopping online, right now. And that's coming from a guy who stops at the grocery store 3 times a week, on average. If I could have my meal components delivered fresh to my house every day, I'd never set foot in a grocery store again. Hell, even Walmart will go shopping for you and hand you your shit when you pull up out front of the store, in some areas.
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If a drone is within range of a 12 gauge, on my property, it is, in my opinion, interfering with a reasonable use of my land (privacy), which is the legal definition of trespassing, and will therefore be shot down on sight.

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I picture the skies darkening with retail robots delivering everything from 2 ply toilet paper to 70" TVs. Logistics will be revolutionized with *actual* driverless cars, hauling cargo to large hubs where everything is stored, customized, sorted and delivered to the end user. No more brick and mortar "middle man."



I'm looking forward to this, actually.  It's kind of like a grownup pinata, except you use a 12 gauge instead of a bat, and you get electronics instead of candy.

Probably also looking at 10-20 in a Fed PMITA prison since you'll be shooting down an FAA regulated aircraft, on camera, with GPS and audible distress signal.


If a drone is within range of a 12 gauge, on my property, it is, in my opinion, interfering with a reasonable use of my land (privacy), which is the legal definition of trespassing, and will therefore be shot down on sight.

<edit>  A home/landowner owns the airspace that is required for a reasonable use of the land.

Your opinion won't mean much to the federal judge overseeing your conviction.
6/15/2016 2:49:26 PM EDT
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People *always* find a purpose. Always. You admit as much in your post. You point out that everything that *can* be automated is being automated and, yet, we still employ the VAST majority of the human population in some capacity.
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Yup, OP, I guess you're right.
The only question is "what to do with all the unemployed dumb people?"
The economy doesn't need that many strippers... and you don't want to see Wal-Mart staff stripping, anyway.

Will they all join BLM/ISIS?
Will we be able to get them all hooked on virtual reality MMOs, and then just disconnect the feeding tubes?
Will someone do that to us?

Look up the Luddites. They've already answered your questions.


Luddites eventually went away because you could repurpose peasants to shovel coal and operate circle grinders (after some instruction).

Today, everything that could be done by a regular idiot will soon be done by robots. Heck, we may have robot prostitutes and soldiers, fairly soon. What happens when there's no occupation for anyone with IQ below 140?

People *always* find a purpose. Always. You admit as much in your post. You point out that everything that *can* be automated is being automated and, yet, we still employ the VAST majority of the human population in some capacity.


Hope you're right. Maybe all the idiots will get employed as Government Regulations Compliance Inspectors, or something.
6/15/2016 2:49:36 PM EDT
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Grocery stores are already seeing a numbers slip from services like PeaPod and AmazonPantry.

I probably do 20 percent of my "grocery" shopping online, right now. And that's coming from a guy who stops at the grocery store 3 times a week, on average. If I could have my meal components delivered fresh to my house every day, I'd never set foot in a grocery store again. Hell, even Walmart will go shopping for you and hand you your shit when you pull up out front of the store, in some areas.
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All I know is this

the two retail places that wont go out of business: Grocery stores and auto part stores (unless car manufactures start making vehicles unrepairable )

Grocery stores are already seeing a numbers slip from services like PeaPod and AmazonPantry.

I probably do 20 percent of my "grocery" shopping online, right now. And that's coming from a guy who stops at the grocery store 3 times a week, on average. If I could have my meal components delivered fresh to my house every day, I'd never set foot in a grocery store again. Hell, even Walmart will go shopping for you and hand you your shit when you pull up out front of the store, in some areas.


I live near the rez here in NM shipping isnt exactly an option. While yes you do see a decline but you wont ever see a full closure You cant exactly wait for today's meal two days from now
6/15/2016 2:52:04 PM EDT
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I live near the rez here in NM shipping isnt exactly an option. While yes you do see a decline but you wont ever see a full closure You cant exactly wait for today's meal two days from now
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the two retail places that wont go out of business: Grocery stores and auto part stores (unless car manufactures start making vehicles unrepairable )

Grocery stores are already seeing a numbers slip from services like PeaPod and AmazonPantry.

I probably do 20 percent of my "grocery" shopping online, right now. And that's coming from a guy who stops at the grocery store 3 times a week, on average. If I could have my meal components delivered fresh to my house every day, I'd never set foot in a grocery store again. Hell, even Walmart will go shopping for you and hand you your shit when you pull up out front of the store, in some areas.


I live near the rez here in NM shipping isnt exactly an option. While yes you do see a decline but you wont ever see a full closure You cant exactly wait for today's meal two days from now

You're forgetting the 3 decades that are going to pass before any of this comes true.

As to your waiting statement .... do you do *all* of your shopping one day at a time? Like, you're going to stop tonight to pick up *only* what you need for dinner tonight and then do the same thing for the rest of your life?

Most people go to the grocery store once a week, some every 10-14 days. That's *just about* the perfect model for home delivery service, wouldn't you say?
6/15/2016 2:52:19 PM EDT
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car shoppers won't buy a car without diving it first. well at least 90% of them won't.
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Probably true but, then, that's not really a "retail" model, is it?

What if dealerships had one of every car *only* and after your test drive you ordered the one with the options you wanted, delivered to your home, tonight? Would that turn you on? So, instead of a dealership taking up 5 acres of land, it takes up 60 parking spaces in the city with a 30 acre "lot" 20 miles outside of town. One that is chock fucking full of every option combination or the ability to customize one quickly?
6/15/2016 3:00:13 PM EDT
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I work in retail. Business is down across the board. We also are scheduled less hours for workers to almost unmanageable point.
6/15/2016 3:02:10 PM EDT
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Are there any moves happening to try to keep up with the times or is your retailer going to go down with the ship of the "old ways?"
6/15/2016 3:03:31 PM EDT
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the developers in the southeast dont know think it is.

there are deals to build over 200 major grocery stores and retail shop spaces in the SE over the next 24 months.
(that's what I do, build retail stores/groceries)
6/15/2016 3:06:51 PM EDT
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I work in retail and I do work with autoparts  we havent seen any reduction and with the exception of last night made our goal or exceeded it for the last few weeks. My only down time (for my store) is graduation and really the 2 weeks before and week after Christmas.

I can see other locations being affected though
A lot of my hard good shopping is bought on line because I do not have the options as compared to a larger city.
6/15/2016 3:08:57 PM EDT
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I see shopping transformed into very large department stores where everything imaginable is on display but, nothing is actually sold in store. Go to the store, finger fuck the stuff you're interested in and swipe your card at the display. Drone delivery to your secure "Drop Box" at home and probably before you can drive back to your house from the store. Custom order? No problem, you can have that tomorrow, it all comes from the same warehouse, anyway.

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Except for the drone delivery, that sounds a lot like the old Service Merchandise outfit.
6/15/2016 3:09:47 PM EDT
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the developers in the southeast dont know think it is.

there are deals to build over 200 major grocery stores and retail shop spaces in the SE over the next 24 months.
(that's what I do, build retail stores/groceries)

There's *absolutely* a need for them right now. What do you think that need is going to be in 10, 15, 20, 30 years?
6/15/2016 3:10:11 PM EDT
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What kind of liability insurance would it take to have that many drones carrying 200 pound washers and driers all over the sky?
6/15/2016 3:16:36 PM EDT
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I picture the skies darkening with retail robots delivering everything from 2 ply toilet paper to 70" TVs. Logistics will be revolutionized with *actual* driverless cars, hauling cargo to large hubs where everything is stored, customized, sorted and delivered to the end user. No more brick and mortar "middle man."







I'm looking forward to this, actually.  It's kind of like a grownup pinata, except you use a 12 gauge instead of a bat, and you get electronics instead of candy.


Probably also looking at 10-20 in a Fed PMITA prison since you'll be shooting down an FAA regulated aircraft, on camera, with GPS and audible distress signal.
So you are saying a directional, handheld EMP device would be a better option.  Gotcha.  

 
6/15/2016 3:16:37 PM EDT
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I see shopping transformed into very large department stores where everything imaginable is on display but, nothing is actually sold in store. Go to the store, finger fuck the stuff you're interested in and swipe your card at the display. Drone delivery to your secure "Drop Box" at home and probably before you can drive back to your house from the store. Custom order? No problem, you can have that tomorrow, it all comes from the same warehouse, anyway.



Except for the drone delivery, that sounds a lot like the old Service Merchandise outfit.

You're exactly right. The main difference is the complete shift in logistics since 2002 and the availability of "just in time" deliveries to most areas. Something SM lacked, sorely. Part of the reason they failed (even though they had a good run) was that it still took a week to get your shit and it wasn't *significantly* cheaper than buying it elsewhere.
6/15/2016 3:17:27 PM EDT
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My guess would be comparable to having Semi trucks, driven by incredibly fallible humans over million miles of highway per year.
6/15/2016 3:19:42 PM EDT
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I still think that edibles and consumables will be brick and mortar. With the rise and popularity of farmer's markets and other "fresh" / "off grid" food source concepts there will always be a need for a physical grocery store. People may buy their widgets, shirts and soap sight unseen, but most people want a good look at the food they are going to cook when they buy it.

Unless the future of consumables is all prepackaged fast food bullshit... in that case automated mcdonalds boxes to place your food order.
6/15/2016 3:28:45 PM EDT
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I still think that edibles and consumables will be brick and mortar. With the rise and popularity of farmer's markets and other "fresh" / "off grid" food source concepts there will always be a need for a physical grocery store. People may buy their widgets, shirts and soap sight unseen, but most people want a good look at the food they are going to cook when they buy it.



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I like supporting the local farmer's markets, except when they only have stuff that I don't care to eat.  There is always this lull between winter and spring where they literally have nothing that I want.  One of my wife's friends keeps us well stocked with fresh eggs.  



Regardless, I hope the future of consumables is NOT prepackaged fast food bullshit.  Too many chain restaurants have gone downhill because of that.  As a result, I cook WAY more than I used to!
6/15/2016 3:33:20 PM EDT
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Does anyone here think retail is slowly going the way of the dodo?

the developers in the southeast dont know think it is.

there are deals to build over 200 major grocery stores and retail shop spaces in the SE over the next 24 months.
(that's what I do, build retail stores/groceries)

There's *absolutely* a need for them right now. What do you think that need is going to be in 10, 15, 20, 30 years?

more people, more need.

6/15/2016 3:41:29 PM EDT
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What if I could offer you hand picked, best of batch, wholly organic farm to table food, delivered to your box, in under an hour?

ETA: If you think about it, just in time farming actually INCREASES your access to fresh foods. Much more so than a grocery store might.
6/15/2016 3:42:24 PM EDT
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Does anyone here think retail is slowly going the way of the dodo?

the developers in the southeast dont know think it is.

there are deals to build over 200 major grocery stores and retail shop spaces in the SE over the next 24 months.
(that's what I do, build retail stores/groceries)

There's *absolutely* a need for them right now. What do you think that need is going to be in 10, 15, 20, 30 years?

more people, more need.


What does population have to do with logistics and delivery?
6/15/2016 3:50:27 PM EDT
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Drones will replace retail.
6/15/2016 3:52:32 PM EDT
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My $10K worth of Publix stock says otherwise.
6/15/2016 3:54:10 PM EDT
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That's my take on it.

How do you think that will affect the social landscape? No more running into hot MILFs in Target, chatting up chicks in the produce section, no more gun counter banter with your neighborhood SEAL-super-sniper-Ranger-Recon-motorpool guy at the LGS.
6/15/2016 3:54:39 PM EDT
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Today. What will it be worth in 2046?
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