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Posted: 6/6/2016 8:19:23 PM EDT
Like most little boys I was always enamored with big machines. I knew I wanted to be a pilot for a living since I was 5 and have basically done nothing but that my whole life. But if there was any way to snap my fingers and be doing something else I always thought it would be captain of a large ocean going ship.

I suspect I'm too old now to get into that now but what is the career path that leads to being captain of a large ship? Be it cargo, tanker, or a cruise ship. Primarily I mean on the civilian side although if anyone has gone from Navy or CG to working on civil ships speak up.

This should also become a pic thread. Sea stories are also encouraged.



RC
Link Posted: 6/6/2016 8:31:25 PM EDT
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Many years of alternate formal education and sea tours, as you work your way through the licensing process, and up the ranks.

Link Posted: 6/6/2016 8:35:07 PM EDT
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Merchant Marine Academy
Link Posted: 6/6/2016 8:38:40 PM EDT
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It would have been work, but I would have loved to crew the 'tall ship' Cutty Sark (or equivalent).
Link Posted: 6/6/2016 8:49:14 PM EDT
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Yo dog
Link Posted: 6/6/2016 8:58:10 PM EDT
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I know a guy that served in the Navy, got out, did the Merchant Marine thing. He retired as Captain of a tanker that fueled Navy ships at sea. He was a civilian but there were a few Navy guys on board as well as the civilian crew.

He loved it. His wife and kids... not so much.
Link Posted: 6/6/2016 9:07:41 PM EDT
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An alternate route starts with a plane ride to Mogadishu, a stop at Bakara Market, a drive to Bargall....
Link Posted: 6/6/2016 9:22:37 PM EDT
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Do you want the front to fall off? Because that's how you get the front to fall off.
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Isnt eesmith a boat captain?
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Hope so
Link Posted: 6/6/2016 9:34:14 PM EDT
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I expect it depends on what kind of ship you want to captain.
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yeah, like he's got a chance competing against kids fresh out of high school.
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New a guy was a Captain of an a cargo ship, he was never home. He actually rented rooms in his house to a few friends
just so someone could be in the home.
Link Posted: 6/6/2016 9:57:50 PM EDT
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IF being away for a few days on an air trip sucks, cube that or more for Ocean going ship on the Slow Boat From China these days...

At least as a pilot, you can haul rubber dog shit from Hong Kong and be home in a day...



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I'm too old for a major career change. I'm just asking for the sake of academics. An if I had it to do all over again thing.
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A guy in his 60s graduated from SUNY Maritme a few years back. It is entirely possible to do.
Link Posted: 6/7/2016 2:36:43 AM EDT
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Go for it.  Take some classes and find a job.

Whats the worst that could happen?

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Or just buy a crab boat.
Link Posted: 6/7/2016 2:56:42 AM EDT
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A lot of the MSC ships are crewed by ex-mil, mostly Navy. Pay is legit, travel is better if you want it.
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A guy in his 60s graduated from SUNY Maritime a few years back. It is entirely possible to do.
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A guy in his 60s graduated from SUNY Maritime a few years back. It is entirely possible to do.

I hadn't heard it that way.  I heard he had his 3/M license many years ago and let it expire, then went in and renewed and got a sea  job.  Maybe another guy though.

But yeah OP, it can be done at an advanced age - at least at the Third Mate level.  You won't have the required sea time to sit for Master right off.

Be aware there are only 78 ships left in the US-Flagged fleet so the job market is pretty much all foreign flag.
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A guy in his 60s graduated from SUNY Maritme a few years back. It is entirely possible to do.


SUNY Maritime is not one of the 4 Service Academies requiring congressional nomination, and having a max admission age of 25.
Link Posted: 6/7/2016 7:09:16 AM EDT
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Doing something you love  for a living is a great way to make it "work" (no longer fun). Buy a boat, sail,the world, profit. Forget the big commercial boat dream.
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Or just buy a crab boat.
And sail it on the frozen, vast, deadly, Bering, sea

 
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Link Posted: 6/7/2016 7:38:08 AM EDT
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I went to Massachusetts maritime academy. It's one of the places you can go for that. But I went for engineering, which is better.

I have "driven" a big ship before. It's cool for like 5 min then gets pretty fucking boring. Trust me, you're not missing much
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I'm too old for a major career change. I'm just asking for the sake of academics. An if I had it to do all over again thing.




IIRC, it's very similar process to what you have to do to get to where you are in aviation.



Either go to school, bash the books and get ATP, ratings thru school, then try and build hours.



Or get a job on a ship, school on the side, climb the ladder, while building days at sea.



Seas jobs tend to be 50/50. 3months on, 3 months off. Basically 2 crews for each ship and they swap.



There are several mariners here that can explain it better, try contacting Piccolo, DieselEngineer, Josh, etc.
 
Link Posted: 6/7/2016 8:24:00 AM EDT
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Nothing to add on training or working the job really but I thought this thread needed more pics.  This one seems most appropriate for GD.



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Go for it.  Take some classes and find a job.

Whats the worst that could happen?

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You get in a movie?
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You get in a movie?



That Tom Hanks plays you in.
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Come on, someone from this site ?  I could only imagine what would come out of the storage areas in the event of a pirate attack on a Arfcom Captain.

 





Link Posted: 6/7/2016 8:59:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/7/2016 1:53:07 PM EDT
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SUNY Maritime is not one of the 4 Service Academies requiring congressional nomination, and having a max admission age of 25.
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yeah, like he's got a chance competing against kids fresh out of high school.


A guy in his 60s graduated from SUNY Maritme a few years back. It is entirely possible to do.


SUNY Maritime is not one of the 4 Service Academies requiring congressional nomination, and having a max admission age of 25.


You said merchant marine academy, not service academy. KP is a service academy but for a merchant marine there are other, and some would say better, choices.
Link Posted: 6/7/2016 1:54:17 PM EDT
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Nothing to add on training or working the job really but I thought this thread needed more pics.  This one seems most appropriate for GD.



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I have helped to dock that ship.
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Come on, someone from this site ?  I could only imagine what would come out of the storage areas in the event of a pirate attack on a Arfcom Captain.  

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Whats the worst that could happen?

http://www.loripolin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Somali-Pirates-in-Captain-Phillips-movie-2.jpg
Come on, someone from this site ?  I could only imagine what would come out of the storage areas in the event of a pirate attack on a Arfcom Captain.  

https://youtu.be/BIMjQOCLkS4



I shot clay birds on a cruise ship. How much to shoot pirates?
Link Posted: 6/7/2016 2:49:57 PM EDT
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Where is Sea Captain Gabe when you need him?
Link Posted: 6/7/2016 2:53:37 PM EDT
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You said merchant marine academy, not service academy. KP is a service academy but for a merchant marine there are other, and some would say better, choices.
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yeah, like he's got a chance competing against kids fresh out of high school.


A guy in his 60s graduated from SUNY Maritme a few years back. It is entirely possible to do.


SUNY Maritime is not one of the 4 Service Academies requiring congressional nomination, and having a max admission age of 25.


You said merchant marine academy, not service academy. KP is a service academy but for a merchant marine there are other, and some would say better, choices.


I didn't suggest Merchant Marine Academy.  
It IS considered a service academy.  How many typical colleges or universities require a congressional nomination, and have age cutoff as low as 25 ?
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Whats the worst that could happen?

http://www.loripolin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Somali-Pirates-in-Captain-Phillips-movie-2.jpg
Come on, someone from this site ?  I could only imagine what would come out of the storage areas in the event of a pirate attack on a Arfcom Captain.  

https://youtu.be/BIMjQOCLkS4



I shot clay birds on a cruise ship. How much to shoot pirates?

$28/day and you have to bring your own ammo...
Link Posted: 6/7/2016 7:52:48 PM EDT
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Whats the worst that could happen?

http://www.loripolin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Somali-Pirates-in-Captain-Phillips-movie-2.jpg
Come on, someone from this site ?  I could only imagine what would come out of the storage areas in the event of a pirate attack on a Arfcom Captain.  

https://youtu.be/BIMjQOCLkS4



We can have our own Arfcom navy!
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yeah, like he's got a chance competing against kids fresh out of high school.


Check out the state schools.  One of my classmates at Maine Maritime was 60 at graduation and had a PhD in geology.  He came in with us, graduated in 3 years, and started sailing.  Last I heard, he was sailing captain on a coastal tanker in ME.
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Nothing to add on training or working the job really but I thought this thread needed more pics.  This one seems most appropriate for GD.

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More GD appropriate would be the way I first saw it before my eyes focused on that photo.  Somehow "TAURUS URANUS" seems much more appropriate,
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