[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Water cooling, CPU or GPU first? (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 6/1/2016 2:16:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: I have to agree. I lost a laptop once because the GPU melted off the board..... Quoted: Quoted: I would have separate loops... GPU blocks tend to be very restrictive and produce a ton of heat. I lost a laptop once because the GPU melted off the board..... |
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Quoted: one pump one loop, but a rad between each. one for the GPU one for the CPU. all EK gear. Quoted: Quoted: I would have separate loops... GPU blocks tend to be very restrictive and produce a ton of heat. one pump one loop, but a rad between each. one for the GPU one for the CPU. all EK gear. |
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Order doesn't really matter. The water flows so fast that all of the water in the loop heats at a pretty uniform rate. Quoted:
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I would have separate loops... GPU blocks tend to be very restrictive and produce a ton of heat. one pump one loop, but a rad between each. one for the GPU one for the CPU. all EK gear. You using a Predator? and just a single 360? Im looking at a 240 and a 280. thats for a 980ti and i7-4790k. Both are getting big overclocks. |
| Your CPU cooler is probably sufficient for stock clock speeds, its' the GPU that tends to get really hot during extended sessions and also generates more noise. Between the two I'd go GPU first if I were building a custom loop. Otherwise CPU, for ease of install and immediate benefit. |
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Quoted: You using a Predator? and just a single 360? Im looking at a 240 and a 280. thats for a 980ti and i7-4790k. Both are getting big overclocks. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would have separate loops... GPU blocks tend to be very restrictive and produce a ton of heat. one pump one loop, but a rad between each. one for the GPU one for the CPU. all EK gear. You using a Predator? and just a single 360? Im looking at a 240 and a 280. thats for a 980ti and i7-4790k. Both are getting big overclocks. A 240 and a 280 will handle your setup without issue. If you put the time into setting up Speedfan, or get something like an Aquaero fan/pump controller, you can likely set it up so only 1 or 2 fans are running most of the time, and the rest are turned off unless you're actually using the PC. |
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I would have separate loops... GPU blocks tend to be very restrictive and produce a ton of heat. I lost a laptop once because the GPU melted off the board..... HP DV6XXX Series? |
| Don't blow money on a GPU water cooling setup now when the next generation of cards just around the corner is promising a massive increase in performance and efficiency. I wouldn't blow money on CPU cooling either unless you have something like an 8-core i7 extreme. |
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A 240 and a 280 will handle your setup without issue. If you put the time into setting up Speedfan, or get something like an Aquaero fan/pump controller, you can likely set it up so only 1 or 2 fans are running most of the time, and the rest are turned off unless you're actually using the PC. thats the plan.. i have a H110 right now. Love the low noise but want to add in the vid card into the mix and get it quieter. figure I can run push pull and get the speed down really low. Plenty of room in a corsair 600c case. |
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Combo kegerator and PC cooling solution. PC keeps it from getting too cold and freezing the beer, the freezer keeps the PC from getting too hot and cooking itself.  Quoted:
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you should buy a chest freezer and put the tower in there while you are at it. Combo kegerator and PC cooling solution. PC keeps it from getting too cold and freezing the beer, the freezer keeps the PC from getting too hot and cooking itself. It never works the way you hope. Freezers are built to get things, which aren't hot, cold and keep them there. They are NOT designed to combat something actively generating heat. |
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Quoted: It never works the way you hope. Freezers are built to get things, which aren't hot, cold and keep them there. They are NOT designed to combat something actively generating heat. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: you should buy a chest freezer and put the tower in there while you are at it. Combo kegerator and PC cooling solution. PC keeps it from getting too cold and freezing the beer, the freezer keeps the PC from getting too hot and cooking itself. It never works the way you hope. Freezers are built to get things, which aren't hot, cold and keep them there. They are NOT designed to combat something actively generating heat. |
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Don't blow money on a GPU water cooling setup now when the next generation of cards just around the corner is promising a massive increase in performance and efficiency. I wouldn't blow money on CPU cooling either unless you have something like an 8-core i7 extreme. BZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.. the 1080 is just 15% faster than a 980ti. its gets less of a lead when the 980ti is overclocked. the 1080ti is not slated until next year. and for AMD's new polaris. LOFL |
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thats the plan.. i have a H110 right now. Love the low noise but want to add in the vid card into the mix and get it quieter. figure I can run push pull and get the speed down really low. Plenty of room in a corsair 600c case. Quoted:
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A 240 and a 280 will handle your setup without issue. If you put the time into setting up Speedfan, or get something like an Aquaero fan/pump controller, you can likely set it up so only 1 or 2 fans are running most of the time, and the rest are turned off unless you're actually using the PC. thats the plan.. i have a H110 right now. Love the low noise but want to add in the vid card into the mix and get it quieter. figure I can run push pull and get the speed down really low. Plenty of room in a corsair 600c case. For the money you will blow on a custom loop, you could in the very near future sell your 980ti and get a GTX 1080 instead for a significant performance increase. Your CPU cooler is already giving you as good performance as a custom loop would (a ~5° drop in temp won't give you more overlocking headroom). |
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Quoted: For the money you will blow on a custom loop, you could in the very near future sell your 980ti and get a GTX 1080 instead for a significant performance increase. Your CPU cooler is already giving you as good performance as a custom loop would (a ~5° drop in temp won't give you more overlocking headroom). Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A 240 and a 280 will handle your setup without issue. If you put the time into setting up Speedfan, or get something like an Aquaero fan/pump controller, you can likely set it up so only 1 or 2 fans are running most of the time, and the rest are turned off unless you're actually using the PC. thats the plan.. i have a H110 right now. Love the low noise but want to add in the vid card into the mix and get it quieter. figure I can run push pull and get the speed down really low. Plenty of room in a corsair 600c case. For the money you will blow on a custom loop, you could in the very near future sell your 980ti and get a GTX 1080 instead for a significant performance increase. Your CPU cooler is already giving you as good performance as a custom loop would (a ~5° drop in temp won't give you more overlocking headroom). |
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Quoted: Ok I'm on EK's site and I'm not seeing any left angle fittings on there?!? Maybe another vender? Quoted: Quoted: Should only make a couple degree difference either way so I would just try to build the set up with the least amount of right angle fittings. Ok I'm on EK's site and I'm not seeing any left angle fittings on there?!? Maybe another vender? What he's saying is that angled fittings hamper flow. And, if you were building the Formula 1 of loops, I'd agree. In practice, it doesn't really matter. |
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BZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.. the 1080 is just 15% faster than a 980ti. its gets less of a lead when the 980ti is overclocked. the 1080ti is not slated until next year. and for AMD's new polaris. LOFL Quoted:
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Don't blow money on a GPU water cooling setup now when the next generation of cards just around the corner is promising a massive increase in performance and efficiency. I wouldn't blow money on CPU cooling either unless you have something like an 8-core i7 extreme. BZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.. the 1080 is just 15% faster than a 980ti. its gets less of a lead when the 980ti is overclocked. the 1080ti is not slated until next year. and for AMD's new polaris. LOFL I have a 980ti too. It overclocks just fine on air. You won't get a big increase in clock for the hundreds of dollars you will spend on water cooling it. |
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Ok I'm on EK's site and I'm not seeing any left angle fittings on there?!? Maybe another vender? Quoted:
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Should only make a couple degree difference either way so I would just try to build the set up with the least amount of right angle fittings. Ok I'm on EK's site and I'm not seeing any left angle fittings on there?!? Maybe another vender? Gotta go to danger den |
| Water cooling is cool to do for a hobby, but it's not necessary to get good performance. There is maintenance and upkeep if you build your own loop. If you like the idea of doing it and have some money to play with, go for it. Separate loops is the way to go if you want to use extreme voltage and push extreme clocks. I had a custom cpu loop for a while. The pump started making all kinds of noise although performance didn't suffer. I got a new pump under warranty, but never installed it. I just sold all the parts with the new pump and bought a Thermalright Silver Arrow. |
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Should only make a couple degree difference either way so I would just try to build the set up with the least amount of right angle fittings. Ok I'm on EK's site and I'm not seeing any left angle fittings on there?!? Maybe another vender? Gotta go to danger den
is it sad that I know who they are, and looked at their wares back when the site first went up. My 980ti pushes 3 24inch monitors in 5670x1080. As soon as the used ti's hit 300 bucks I'm picking up a second. |
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Water cooling is cool to do for a hobby, but it's not necessary to get good performance. There is maintenance and upkeep if you build your own loop. If you like the idea of doing it and have some money to play with, go for it. Separate loops is the way to go if you want to use extreme voltage and push extreme clocks. I had a custom cpu loop for a while. The pump started making all kinds of noise although performance didn't suffer. I got a new pump under warranty, but never installed it. I just sold all the parts with the new pump and bought a Thermalright Silver Arrow. DDC pump? |
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How many instances do you have open? Quoted:
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What are you doing? Gaming? GPU Multi-layer 4K video editing? CPU 3D Modeling? GPU(s) Fluid dynamics computational analysis? CPU(s) playing WoW.. LOL actually Black Desert Online.
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BZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.. the 1080 is just 15% faster than a 980ti. its gets less of a lead when the 980ti is overclocked. the 1080ti is not slated until next year. and for AMD's new polaris. LOFL Quoted:
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Don't blow money on a GPU water cooling setup now when the next generation of cards just around the corner is promising a massive increase in performance and efficiency. I wouldn't blow money on CPU cooling either unless you have something like an 8-core i7 extreme. BZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.. the 1080 is just 15% faster than a 980ti. its gets less of a lead when the 980ti is overclocked. the 1080ti is not slated until next year. and for AMD's new polaris. LOFL You know Polaris isn't AMD's answer to the 1070/1080, right? It brings 980/390X performance to the $200 price point, where probably 90% of the GPU market is. It will be a competitor with the 1060 whenever Nvidia releases it. Vega will be the big die successor to the x90/Fury line. |
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Separate loops is the way to go if you want to use extreme voltage and push extreme clocks. I would disagree with that. There are very few applications that will fully stress the CPU and GPU(s) at the same time, so it is beneficial to have all radiators in one loop during realistic loads. Honestly though, you are talking about a difference in temps or a few degrees at most, so it doesn't really matter. |
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It never works the way you hope. Freezers are built to get things, which aren't hot, cold and keep them there. They are NOT designed to combat something actively generating heat. Quoted:
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you should buy a chest freezer and put the tower in there while you are at it. Combo kegerator and PC cooling solution. PC keeps it from getting too cold and freezing the beer, the freezer keeps the PC from getting too hot and cooking itself. It never works the way you hope. Freezers are built to get things, which aren't hot, cold and keep them there. They are NOT designed to combat something actively generating heat. It's a joke yo
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Should only make a couple degree difference either way so I would just try to build the set up with the least amount of right angle fittings. Ok I'm on EK's site and I'm not seeing any left angle fittings on there?!? Maybe another vender? Gotta go to danger den Danger Den went out of business a couple years ago. I have one of their Torture Rack cases and I love it. Personally, I keep my loops simple, no compression, swivel or angled fittings bullshit. 1/2" Fatboy barbs and 3/8" ID 5/8"OD Tygon tubing, no clamps needed and looks clean. My D5 pump has been on constantly for the better part of 9 years now. |
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You know Polaris isn't AMD's answer to the 1070/1080, right? It brings 980/390X performance to the $200 price point, where probably 90% of the GPU market is. It will be a competitor with the 1060 whenever Nvidia releases it. Vega will be the big die successor to the x90/Fury line. Quoted:
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Don't blow money on a GPU water cooling setup now when the next generation of cards just around the corner is promising a massive increase in performance and efficiency. I wouldn't blow money on CPU cooling either unless you have something like an 8-core i7 extreme. BZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.. the 1080 is just 15% faster than a 980ti. its gets less of a lead when the 980ti is overclocked. the 1080ti is not slated until next year. and for AMD's new polaris. LOFL You know Polaris isn't AMD's answer to the 1070/1080, right? It brings 980/390X performance to the $200 price point, where probably 90% of the GPU market is. It will be a competitor with the 1060 whenever Nvidia releases it. Vega will be the big die successor to the x90/Fury line. Did you watch the presentation today? LOL? RX480 almost as good as a 1080 and for only $300!! |
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Quoted: Did you watch the presentation today? LOL? RX480 almost as good as a 1080 and for only $300!! Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't blow money on a GPU water cooling setup now when the next generation of cards just around the corner is promising a massive increase in performance and efficiency. I wouldn't blow money on CPU cooling either unless you have something like an 8-core i7 extreme. BZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.. the 1080 is just 15% faster than a 980ti. its gets less of a lead when the 980ti is overclocked. the 1080ti is not slated until next year. and for AMD's new polaris. LOFL You know Polaris isn't AMD's answer to the 1070/1080, right? It brings 980/390X performance to the $200 price point, where probably 90% of the GPU market is. It will be a competitor with the 1060 whenever Nvidia releases it. Vega will be the big die successor to the x90/Fury line. Did you watch the presentation today? LOL? RX480 almost as good as a 1080 and for only $300!! |
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Combo kegerator and PC cooling solution. PC keeps it from getting too cold and freezing the beer, the freezer keeps the PC from getting too hot and cooking itself. Quoted:
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you should buy a chest freezer and put the tower in there while you are at it. Combo kegerator and PC cooling solution. PC keeps it from getting too cold and freezing the beer, the freezer keeps the PC from getting too hot and cooking itself. 
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Did you watch the presentation? RX480 is $200, and two of them are faster than a 1080 (which is ~650) Quoted:
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Don't blow money on a GPU water cooling setup now when the next generation of cards just around the corner is promising a massive increase in performance and efficiency. I wouldn't blow money on CPU cooling either unless you have something like an 8-core i7 extreme. BZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.. the 1080 is just 15% faster than a 980ti. its gets less of a lead when the 980ti is overclocked. the 1080ti is not slated until next year. and for AMD's new polaris. LOFL You know Polaris isn't AMD's answer to the 1070/1080, right? It brings 980/390X performance to the $200 price point, where probably 90% of the GPU market is. It will be a competitor with the 1060 whenever Nvidia releases it. Vega will be the big die successor to the x90/Fury line. Did you watch the presentation today? LOL? RX480 almost as good as a 1080 and for only $300!! ya, was paraphrasing..  And i thought the 1080 release was bad.. well see the real number on the 29th..
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is it sad that I know who they are, and looked at their wares back when the site first went up. My 980ti pushes 3 24inch monitors in 5670x1080. As soon as the used ti's hit 300 bucks I'm picking up a second. Quoted:
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Should only make a couple degree difference either way so I would just try to build the set up with the least amount of right angle fittings. Ok I'm on EK's site and I'm not seeing any left angle fittings on there?!? Maybe another vender? Gotta go to danger den
is it sad that I know who they are, and looked at their wares back when the site first went up. My 980ti pushes 3 24inch monitors in 5670x1080. As soon as the used ti's hit 300 bucks I'm picking up a second. I hope not since I still have a dd am2 waterblock in box sitting around .
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Water cooling is cool to do for a hobby, but it's not necessary to get good performance. There is maintenance and upkeep if you build your own loop. If you like the idea of doing it and have some money to play with, go for it. Separate loops is the way to go if you want to use extreme voltage and push extreme clocks. I had a custom cpu loop for a while. The pump started making all kinds of noise although performance didn't suffer. I got a new pump under warranty, but never installed it. I just sold all the parts with the new pump and bought a Thermalright Silver Arrow. DDC pump? I think it may have been a rebranded one. It was in an XSPC RASA kit I bought. The pump was built in to the reservoir. It came with a waterblock and a 360mm radiator. |