Posted: 5/25/2016 5:01:09 PM EDT
I bought a used 4runner a couple weeks ago, and there was only 1 master key, and fob, along with a valet key. I wanted a second master key and fob. So I ordered them off amazon for about $33 shipped, and you can program them yourself. Perfect. I used to work at an Ace hardware and cut a ton of keys, pretty straight forward, use master clamped in place and the machine has a guide that matches with the blade on the opposite side where the blank is lined up. Think they could cut it correctly? FUCKING NOPE! So now, because of this incompetent fuck, I have to order another one and try again. This cunt wont get a second shot at it though, I will wait until I'm back in the town I grew up in and cut it my damn self. Seriously, what the fuck, its not that hard to match the shit up. If the cocksuckers have the guide worn down, or the blade worn down, then the bastards are cutting everybody's fucking keys wrong. More than likely, this prick just didnt have the clamps set correctly, because depending on the key, you can use different jaws so they dont sit all fucky. I dont want one of their piece of shit ilco transponder keys with a goofy ass head, I want it to match the original with a toyota logo. And I sure as fuck wont get raped in the ass by a stealership who thinks they are fancy because they will bend you over for $100 to cut and "program" a key. seriously mother fuckers, you shove the key in and out 4 times, open and close the fucking door 6 times then slide in the new key and wait... Pure fucking magic
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Wow. I'm pretty sure the hardware stores around here have chip coders for their key cutters. I think they only cost about $40 too. the key was only $10, and with the 4runner, you can duplicate it yourself. doesnt do much good if the key wont turn because they cant make the cuts correctly now its $20 since i need a second
also, since it was cut too deep on both sides, it cant be fixed. In the past, I have fixed other peoples screw ups by going over again if it was cut too shallow. not possible with this one |
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Just cut a dummy key without the programming and keep it as a backup. Worry about making a new one IF it breaks. Or does your 4Runner need the programming to start? yes, if it was cut correctly and not programmed, it could be used to unlock the doors and glove box, but not start it. |
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how worn was the key they were copying? have seen that a time or two a copy of a worn key not work at all it should if its aligned properly, since they just have to make the tumblers sit at the proper height so the cylinder can turn without crashing into them. worn edges wont affect that, and if the peaks and valleys are worn to where a duplicate wont work, then the original shouldn't work either. but this isn't from that. when I measure a valley on the original it measures 0.175", on the cut key, the same valley is 0.143" so the tumbler in the lock isn't raised to the proper height |
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I do have a question that is related. I have a 99 Concorde with 2 keys. . In any case I dont believe the chip works anyway. You can start the car and pull the key out. Is the chip only needed for starting?
If I spend even 20 bucks it would double the value of the car. So if I get a regular blank made will it disable the car if the security is active? Will it reset after a period of time ? |
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I want my own cutter. I've fixed a few fuckups with a jeweler's file, but some are beyond help, like yours.
We had a portable building with a yale lock delivered back in December. I took the keys to ACE and had the guy cut 5 new keys. Went back to work and they wouldn't even go in the lock. He used KW1 kwikset blanks instead of Yale. |
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I do have a question that is related. I have a 99 Concorde with 2 keys. . In any case I dont believe the chip works anyway. You can start the car and pull the key out. Is the chip only needed for starting? If I spend even 20 bucks it would double the value of the car. So if I get a regular blank made will it disable the car if the security is active? Will it reset after a period of time ? I dont think you should be able to pull it out regardless. A blank made without the transponder wont disable most cars that im aware of, they just wont start. ECU talks to the key, and if the key cant talk back basically, ECU just wont let the car start. |
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I want my own cutter. I've fixed a few fuckups with a jeweler's file, but some are beyond help, like yours. We had a portable building with a yale lock delivered back in December. I took the keys to ACE and had the guy cut 5 new keys. Went back to work and they wouldn't even go in the lock. He used KW1 kwikset blanks instead of Yale.  I thought I was being helpful by providing the correct blank
turns out, not so much 
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Cutting a key really isn't rocket surgery. I just cut 4. And I've got one of the old school tracer machines that you need to have half a brain to use.
I still hold my breath when I have to cut a chip key with a customer provided blank. I don't want to screw it up. Been lucky so far. |
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What year 4Runner?
Was just at our local favorite stealership and grew quite envious of the TRD Pro sitting in the showroom. The wife liked it too ...that was suspicious. I've "outgrown" our FJ and have been "looking" ... For all that's offered in the 4Runner package, the price was was not shocking. Certainly not out of consideration as a "new-new" vehicle. First and last 4Runner was an '88 with the 4-cylinder and automatic transmission. Really wanted the V-6 with the MT. But, that little 4 cylinder was a real goat of an SUV. What it lacked in acceleration it made up for in gas mileage and trail crawling. Alas, rust never sleeps and the Japanese metal was like chocolate layer cake for iron oxide reactions in Missouri. |
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I'm only dealing with Locksmiths from now on. I went to one for some Winnebago keys, and the woman didn't even look anything up. She walked over to a shelf with at least 1000 different types of keys and picked off the exact ones she wanted. She cut the keys and then went to a wheel and buffed the cuts down to match the wear in the locks and tumblers. Then she put the keys on little rings with a tag. Then the whole thing went into a little envelope which she marked with all that she did in case I need more later. Price for 6 keys? $20.00 |
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What year 4Runner? Was just at our local favorite stealership and grew quite envious of the TRD Pro sitting in the showroom. The wife liked it too ...that was suspicious. I've "outgrown" our FJ and have been "looking" ... For all that's offered in the 4Runner package, the price was was not shocking. Certainly not out of consideration as a "new-new" vehicle. First and last 4Runner was an '88 with the 4-cylinder and automatic transmission. Really wanted the V-6 with the MT. But, that little 4 cylinder was a real goat of an SUV. What it lacked in acceleration it made up for in gas mileage and trail crawling. Alas, rust never sleeps and the Japanese metal was like chocolate layer cake for iron oxide reactions in Missouri. 2004. We have a baby coming in September and we also have 2 dogs. Wife didn't want my lab in the backseat right up in baby's face getting dog hair on everything like she would be in our malibu or my pickup so 4runner wins. Was looking at highlanders but arfcommers mentioned early 4th gen 4runners would be in my price range. Found a sport model with 121k miles and liked it. |