[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Question for preppers (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/12/2016 2:26:50 PM EDT
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There's a question elsewhere here concerning how preppers always seem to have friends whose prepper plan is to mooch off them.
Question for you...suppose one of your friends shows up at your house during SHTF asking to share your barricade...BUT he's bringing his own long term food supply, water, weapons and ammo and he's willing to share it with you in exchange for a better roof over his head. You know this person and you know he isn't a threat, so worrying about his character during SHTF isn't an issue in this scenario. He simply needs a more secure place to stay than his current location. What conditions would you let him in and what conditions would you tell him to scram? |
| I think the bottom-line question here is "Does this person help my chances of survival?" If yes, then bring them in. In the scenario you propose, (arrives with his own food/water/gear) and asks to be a resident, then I'd say good deal. That's one more person to work, one more to fight, one more to help. Unless he has some other baggage, then it seems like a good way to help your group. |
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"I against my brother, my brother and I against my cousin, and my cousin and I against the stranger"
Friends are the only family you get to choose. If I'm sure of someone's loyalty I can't really think of any conditions where I'd turn them away, especially if they're contributing their own supplies to the effort. |
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Quoted: I think the bottom-line question here is "Does this person help my chances of survival?" If yes, then bring them in. In the scenario you propose, (arrives with his own food/water/gear) and asks to be a resident, then I'd say good deal. That's one more person to work, one more to fight, one more to help. Unless he has some other baggage, then it seems like a good way to help your group. |
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Safety in numbers. If you trust the guy AND he's bringing his own shit, that seems like a win-win. Those who have lived a true SHTF situation (I believe it was a man from Bosnia) emphasized the absolute necessity of joining with others in order to survive. He said those who attempted to go alone were quickly killed and their stuff taken. 
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Quoted: Those who have lived a true SHTF situation (I believe it was a man from Bosnia) emphasized the absolute necessity of joining with others in order to survive. He said those who attempted to go alone were quickly killed and their stuff taken. Quoted: Quoted: Safety in numbers. If you trust the guy AND he's bringing his own shit, that seems like a win-win. Those who have lived a true SHTF situation (I believe it was a man from Bosnia) emphasized the absolute necessity of joining with others in order to survive. He said those who attempted to go alone were quickly killed and their stuff taken. What about that dude from Argentina or Chile? I think he is a member here, talking about people getting jacked at stoplights. |
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Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? If a single friend comes to my house and my wife and kids are there i have to eventually worry about him getting lonely. Him bringing a girl friend reduces that risk. The sharing thing might be a joke. |
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If a single friend comes to my house and my wife and kids are there i have to eventually worry about him getting lonely. Him bringing a girl friend reduces that risk. The sharing thing might be a joke. Quoted:
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Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? If a single friend comes to my house and my wife and kids are there i have to eventually worry about him getting lonely. Him bringing a girl friend reduces that risk. The sharing thing might be a joke. Ok gotcha. |
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Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? Depends on what your women look like. PM me pics and we'll talk. |
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If a single friend comes to my house and my wife and kids are there i have to eventually worry about him getting lonely. Him bringing a girl friend reduces that risk. The sharing thing might be a joke. Quoted:
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Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? If a single friend comes to my house and my wife and kids are there i have to eventually worry about him getting lonely. Him bringing a girl friend reduces that risk. The sharing thing might be a joke. While you trust him, if you know nothing of his female friend there may be a problem. All he needs is some skank telling him "he" should be in charge or have all of your things as well, ect..... You would have to know both of them. |
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There's a question elsewhere here concerning how preppers always seem to have friends whose prepper plan is to mooch off them. Question for you...suppose one of your friends shows up at your house during SHTF asking to share your barricade...BUT he's bringing his own long term food supply, water, weapons and ammo and he's willing to share it with you in exchange for a better roof over his head. You know this person and you know he isn't a threat, so worrying about his character during SHTF isn't an issue in this scenario. He simply needs a more secure place to stay than his current location. What conditions would you let him in and what conditions would you tell him to scram? One man will not last long when tshtf. You can't stay away 24/7. You are going to need to band together with some friends. Kind of depends on how he "shows up". If the lights are out and communications down and the guy shows up after 3-4 days at things start going crazy because he's one guy, and thought their might be safety in numbers, then probably. If he pulls up 5 minutes after the lights go out and says he had planned to come to my place the first sign of trouble then maybe not. Now if other friends have already shown up and we don't need anymore people then he would probably be out of luck. |
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The last thing I want to do is alienate a prepared (at least moderately) person who knows where my house is. In a minor disaster you'll probably be fine alone, but in long term SHTF situations you'll need a community. Even the people who seem like moochers at first can have something to offer. |
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Since the chances of needing most "preps" is about 1%, the only way to get some return off the investment is to brag to other people I guess It depends on what you are preparing for. Do you live in tornado ally? Something as simple as 5-7 days of food and drinking water per person along small comforts like a deck of cards, some board games and other things to occupy time to not focus on how much having no A/C, electricity, and running water sucks. Keeping a small rubbermaid box in your vehicle with some bottles of water, MREs, walking shoes, winter jacket and space blanket would have probably benefited those impacted by SouthernIce™ in Atlanta and Birmingham a few years ago. Eleventy Billion rounds of .22LR to kill zombies? Yeah, I'd say that the chances are less than 1% of those being needed Bama-Shooter's thread shows very practical ways to make a shitty situation less shitty. That thread has been active 2009 and would have benefited those that were affected by Hurricane Sandy in 2012. But hey man, it's all good. Good luck finding those food/water distro points in your county once your state-level emergency management agency sets those up. |
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Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? You mean you don't plan to keep a harem of soccer moms as you reign over the cul-de-sac? 
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What conditions would you let him in and what conditions would you tell him to scram? i have exactly the same outlook as one of the posters in the other current prepping thread. the people with whom i closely associate (enough to be to know that i have preps) are people of good character, who would be assets if things went bad. off the top of my head, i can think of 8-10 people who i would definitely want to have on my side. i can't feed all of them with what i have on-hand, but i am quite confident that i wouldn't have to--they would be working extremely hard to support themselves. they would also be able to contribute a number of skillsets that i don't have (particularly medical and mechanical). edit: i kernt reed. wait 1... yeah--i scanned badly. if an actual friend came over with his own supplies, why on earth would i turn him away? if a guy was unstable or lacked self-control, he wouldn't be a friend to begin with. once you get down to work buddies or associates, then we'd have to have the "my house, my rules" talk. |
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Quoted: I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? Quoted: Quoted: Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? Everything leads back to sex (and, to a lesser extent, money and power). |
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Watch this "Twilight Zone" Episode. "The Shelter" Dated but, I believe is a realistic scenario.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Ke6zVtENUPretty much. |
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It depends on what you are preparing for. Do you live in tornado ally? Something as simple as 5-7 days of food and drinking water per person along small comforts like a deck of cards, some board games and other things to occupy time to not focus on how much having no A/C, electricity, and running water sucks. Keeping a small rubbermaid box in your vehicle with some bottles of water, MREs, walking shoes, winter jacket and space blanket would have probably benefited those impacted by SouthernIce™ in Atlanta and Birmingham a few years ago. Eleventy Billion rounds of .22LR to kill zombies? Yeah, I'd say that the chances are less than 1% of those being needed Bama-Shooter's thread shows very practical ways to make a shitty situation less shitty. That thread has been active 2009 and would have benefited those that were affected by Hurricane Sandy in 2012. But hey man, it's all good. Good luck finding those food/water distro points in your county once your state-level emergency management agency sets those up. Quoted:
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Since the chances of needing most "preps" is about 1%, the only way to get some return off the investment is to brag to other people I guess It depends on what you are preparing for. Do you live in tornado ally? Something as simple as 5-7 days of food and drinking water per person along small comforts like a deck of cards, some board games and other things to occupy time to not focus on how much having no A/C, electricity, and running water sucks. Keeping a small rubbermaid box in your vehicle with some bottles of water, MREs, walking shoes, winter jacket and space blanket would have probably benefited those impacted by SouthernIce™ in Atlanta and Birmingham a few years ago. Eleventy Billion rounds of .22LR to kill zombies? Yeah, I'd say that the chances are less than 1% of those being needed Bama-Shooter's thread shows very practical ways to make a shitty situation less shitty. That thread has been active 2009 and would have benefited those that were affected by Hurricane Sandy in 2012. But hey man, it's all good. Good luck finding those food/water distro points in your county once your state-level emergency management agency sets those up. You're absolutely right. I was talking more about the doomsday fantasy types who buy up goods for bragging rights, then complain when friends say they will come over to their house. Its like a girl wearing a bikini then complaining when someone looks 
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While you trust him, if you know nothing of his female friend there may be a problem. All he needs is some skank telling him "he" should be in charge or have all of your things as well, ect..... You would have to know both of them. Quoted:
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Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? If a single friend comes to my house and my wife and kids are there i have to eventually worry about him getting lonely. Him bringing a girl friend reduces that risk. The sharing thing might be a joke. While you trust him, if you know nothing of his female friend there may be a problem. All he needs is some skank telling him "he" should be in charge or have all of your things as well, ect..... You would have to know both of them. I'm thinking along the lines of this or supplies may not be plentiful enough for him/them and they start to conspire. All you need is two to the head because you "helped" a friend (at the time) People are not good. It has tried to be bred and taught out of us but every one is an asshole, it just depends on when they become one. My 2€ |
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It depends on what you are preparing for. Do you live in tornado ally? Something as simple as 5-7 days of food and drinking water per person along small comforts like a deck of cards, some board games and other things to occupy time to not focus on how much having no A/C, electricity, and running water sucks. Keeping a small rubbermaid box in your vehicle with some bottles of water, MREs, walking shoes, winter jacket and space blanket would have probably benefited those impacted by SouthernIce™ in Atlanta and Birmingham a few years ago. Eleventy Billion rounds of .22LR to kill zombies? Yeah, I'd say that the chances are less than 1% of those being needed Bama-Shooter's thread shows very practical ways to make a shitty situation less shitty. That thread has been active 2009 and would have benefited those that were affected by Hurricane Sandy in 2012. But hey man, it's all good. Good luck finding those food/water distro points in your county once your state-level emergency management agency sets those up. Quoted:
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Since the chances of needing most "preps" is about 1%, the only way to get some return off the investment is to brag to other people I guess It depends on what you are preparing for. Do you live in tornado ally? Something as simple as 5-7 days of food and drinking water per person along small comforts like a deck of cards, some board games and other things to occupy time to not focus on how much having no A/C, electricity, and running water sucks. Keeping a small rubbermaid box in your vehicle with some bottles of water, MREs, walking shoes, winter jacket and space blanket would have probably benefited those impacted by SouthernIce™ in Atlanta and Birmingham a few years ago. Eleventy Billion rounds of .22LR to kill zombies? Yeah, I'd say that the chances are less than 1% of those being needed Bama-Shooter's thread shows very practical ways to make a shitty situation less shitty. That thread has been active 2009 and would have benefited those that were affected by Hurricane Sandy in 2012. But hey man, it's all good. Good luck finding those food/water distro points in your county once your state-level emergency management agency sets those up. Link to thread? Must have missed it |
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What about that dude from Argentina or Chile? I think he is a member here, talking about people getting jacked at stoplights. Quoted:
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Safety in numbers. If you trust the guy AND he's bringing his own shit, that seems like a win-win. Those who have lived a true SHTF situation (I believe it was a man from Bosnia) emphasized the absolute necessity of joining with others in order to survive. He said those who attempted to go alone were quickly killed and their stuff taken. What about that dude from Argentina or Chile? I think he is a member here, talking about people getting jacked at stoplights. I don't know about that. I'm talking about a guy who lived through a complete collapse of society--no electricity, fuel, water, food, or any other thing we take for granted every day. It made the e-mail rounds a few months ago. |
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Since the chances of needing most "preps" is about 1%, the only way to get some return off the investment is to brag to other people I guess It depends on what you are preparing for. Do you live in tornado ally? Something as simple as 5-7 days of food and drinking water per person along small comforts like a deck of cards, some board games and other things to occupy time to not focus on how much having no A/C, electricity, and running water sucks. Keeping a small rubbermaid box in your vehicle with some bottles of water, MREs, walking shoes, winter jacket and space blanket would have probably benefited those impacted by SouthernIce™ in Atlanta and Birmingham a few years ago. Eleventy Billion rounds of .22LR to kill zombies? Yeah, I'd say that the chances are less than 1% of those being needed Bama-Shooter's thread shows very practical ways to make a shitty situation less shitty. That thread has been active 2009 and would have benefited those that were affected by Hurricane Sandy in 2012. But hey man, it's all good. Good luck finding those food/water distro points in your county once your state-level emergency management agency sets those up. Link to thread? Must have missed it https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/827830_Bama_s_Guide_to_SHTF_Survival_and_EandE___UPD_PG5.html |
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For anyone who posts that sort of thing, being the one guy in the neighborhood with food is the only chance they'll ever have of scoring. Everything leads back to sex (and, to a lesser extent, money and power). Quoted:
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Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? Everything leads back to sex (and, to a lesser extent, money and power). Hehehehe, sheesh, I was kidding. Calllllllm yourself. Were you raped by a prepper or what? 
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While you trust him, if you know nothing of his female friend there may be a problem. All he needs is some skank telling him "he" should be in charge or have all of your things as well, ect..... You would have to know both of them. Quoted:
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Women. He has to have women with him, and my access to them is part of the dealio. I've seen a lot of posts like this in similar threads. Are you being serious or not? If a single friend comes to my house and my wife and kids are there i have to eventually worry about him getting lonely. Him bringing a girl friend reduces that risk. The sharing thing might be a joke. While you trust him, if you know nothing of his female friend there may be a problem. All he needs is some skank telling him "he" should be in charge or have all of your things as well, ect..... You would have to know both of them. Correct |