Details?

Northwestern has a SEAL on their team.

I'm sure he'll write a book about it.

I actually think the self destruction begins this year at tOSU.  Meyer has let the inmates run the asylum and eventually those chickens will come home to roost.  May take another 4 years....but I think you'll see signs of it this fall.

Art Briles has been let go at Baylor.

My wife is pissed...  He must have some major shit on him.

http://www.baylor.edu/rtsv/doc.php/266596.pdf

The PH report is brutal.

Bet he wishes he had taken the Texas job now.

Has to be painful to be a recruit going into that situation.

Anyone have any ideas on who might be interested in the job?

 
I wouldn't mind seeing Coach Leach back in the B12.  Or perhaps even Mangino.  Both have shown they can do well but I don't know if Baylor wants to take a chance on either of them.


 

Oh and....

Haven't read the thread, but I'll just say people needed to be fired after reading today's report.

It sucks but I'm proud the school took steps to fix what was obviously broken, and it starts at the top. The overall problem isn't uniquely Baylor's, but we gotta run a tighter ship.

See y'all in August. Pro Ecclesia, Pro Texana.

I would love to see that.

tl;dr version: It's not rape if he's a starter.

 

I wonder if Tom Herman will move if offered



 

Why the hell would he do that?

I doubt it...I think he is going to wait until the end of the coming season to see if any big openings come along.

Chad Morris?  Maybe.....

But who knows if they are going to get slammed by the NCAA with sanctions..

from the AAC to the Big12




 
 

That would be a good get for both parties.   There's enough talent on the roster for Morris to be successful immediately.

Or, wait a year and get a much bigger job than Baylor.

true, like Texas



 

Exactly.

Cause you know it will happen.

that was my guess where he would end up before this Baylor stuff happened



 

Just now reading some of it....wow.  From what I've read they should have fired the whole coaching staff, not just Briles. Pretty despicable behavior.

Despite its recent success, Baylor has not traditionally been a plum job for a coach.  And with the stink of this scandal on it I don't foresee too many A-listers lining up for the job.  Maybe they offer stupid money or something and I'm proven wrong, but I don't see much in the way of positive for Baylor down the road.

I doubt it.
He's in a great situation at Houston and has a very promising year ahead of him. He's going to get a chance at a bigger program than that within a few years. He's actually waiting for either Sumlin or Strong to get axed if rumors are correct.
I truly believe Baylor is going to have to settle for a mid tier coach who is willing to walk into a dumpster fire.
There are recruits already bailing. What if the NCAA does what they did at Penn State and let the players leave without penalty of sitting out.
Baylor program is in TROUBLE and it's going to take a while to fix it.

Mack Brown to Baylor is getting a lot of stroke.

If he still wants to coach, and coach in a place he has long-standing ties, could there a be a more no-pressure situation for him than Baylor?

Think BAylor is gonna get smacked hard with sanctions?

I mean if they're firing Briles after he's taken the program sooooo far, and fans being made fun of all those years for wearing Baylor stuff, they must be scared of what the NCAA will do.

I think the NCAA will punish them.

To what degree is the question. There are some people calling for the death penalty. That's not ever going to happen again.
Reduced scholarships, no postseason appearances, etc is the most likely scenario.

The program is definitely going to suffer. Baylor had a top 20 recruiting class this year and there are numerous players already reaching out to other schools gauging interest and wondering if they will be released from their LOI.

 
I would hope at least the pain is worse than Ohio State's which was a post season ban and all. And that was just for kids selling jewelry.

As good as Mack is with PR, that would be a grand slam for Baylor.

Of course we will.  Baylor falls into the category of schools that gets what's coming.



Baylor is done as a relevant football program.  I'm more concerned with the legal fallout right now.  I want to see blood up to my chest flowing out of Waco.  I want prison sentences to run into the thousands of years.  This had all better not peter out into nothing.  In fact, peters need to be cut off.



 

I actually like Mack as the occasional sports commentator.  Love him or hate him, he knows his football in the state of TX.  I'd rather not see him fizzle out at Baylor.

Sad but true.  

Like you, I think the lawsuits out of all this are going to cost a metric shit ton of $$$$$ and time.

Mack Brown is a cool guy.  He had a lot to do with Fedora coming to UNC.

Taking the job at Baylor would be better for Baylor than it would be for Mack.

Remember they were paying Briles something like $6mill a season. Plus they just built amazing new stadium.  With the team they have someone will be interested

My parents went to Baylor and I gave it some serious thought before staying in Arizona. I enjoyed their success and all this makes me very sad

Win totals posted by the Southpoint in Vegas

School                         Win Total
Air Force                           8
Akron                                5
Alabama                          10
Appalachian State           8.5
Arizona                             6
Arizona State                    5
Arkansas                         7.5
Arkansas State                7.5
Army                                4.5
Auburn                             6.5
Ball State                         4.5
Baylor                              9.5
Boise State                     10.5
Boston College                6.5
Bowling Green                  7
Buffalo                             5.5
BYU                                  8
California                          4
Central Florida                  5
Central Michigan               7
Charlotte                         2.5
Cincinnati                        6.5
Clemson                         10.5
Colorado                         4.5
Colorado State                5.5
Connecticut                      5
Duke                               5.5
East Carolina                  5.5
Eastern Michigan             3
Fla International              6.5
Florida                            7.5
Florida Atlantic               4.5
Florida State                   9.5
Fresno State                  3.5
Georgia                          8.5
Georgia Southern            8
Georgia State                4.5
Georgia Tech                 6.5
Hawaii                            2.5
Houston                         9.5
Idaho                             3.5
Illinois                            4.5
Indiana                          4.5
Iowa                               8.5
Iowa State                     3.5
Kansas                          1.5
Kansas State                 5.5
Kent State                     4.5
Kentucky                        5
Louisiana Tech              7.5
Louisville                         9
LSU                                10
Marshall                        8.5
Maryland                       4.5
Massachusetts              2.5
Memphis                       6.5
Miami Fl.                       6.5
Miami Ohio                   3.5
Michigan                       10
Michigan State             7.5
Middle Tenn State        7.5
Minnesota                     6
Mississippi                    8.5
Mississippi State          6.5
Missouri                       5.5
Navy                            6.5
NC State                       6
Nebraska                     8.5
Nevada                        6.5
New Mexico                 7
New Mexico State        3
North Carolina            8.5
North Texas                 2
Northern Illinois          8.5
Northwestern              6.5
Notre Dame                9.5
Ohio                            7.5
Ohio State                   9.5
Oklahoma                   10
Oklahoma State          8.5
Old Dominion                5
Oregon                          8
Oregon State              3.5
Penn State                  6.5
Pittsburgh                      7
Purdue                        4.5
Rice                              6
Rutgers                      4.5
San Diego State          8.5
San Jose State             5
SMU                           3.5
South Alabama            3
South Carolina             5
South Florida               8.5
Southern Miss              8
Stanford                       8.5
Syracuse                      4
TCU                              8
Temple                         8.5
Tennessee                   9.5
Texas                           6.5
Texas A&M                   6
Texas San Antonio       4
Texas State                  3
Texas Tech                  7
Toledo                          6.5
Troy                             6
Tulane                         3.5
Tulsa                           6.5
UCLA                          8.5
UL-Lafayette               6.5
UL-Monroe                 3.5
UNLV                         5.5
USC                           7.5
Utah                           7.2
Utah State                 6.5
UTEP                         5
Vanderbilt                  5
Virginia                      4.5
Virginia Tech             6.5
Wake Forest             5.5
Washington               9
Washington State     7.5
West Virginia            6.5
Western Kentucky    8.5
Western Michigan     8.5
Wisconsin                  7
Wyoming                   3.5

The under on Baylor winning 9.5 should be a strong bet.

Yes it would but I would guess its already changed.
In fact I bet it's off the board right now.
Let me check.......

FSU will win more than 9.5 games this year.

Also, Baylor and SMU should just trade coaches and call it a day.

That 9.5 must assume that either Miami or UF makes a comeback this year.


Personally, both programs are still in trouble.....but definitely should be on the rebound soon.

Miami's rebound won't be this year.  Richt is going to have to start over from square one.

He's the right man for the job, but I agree it won't be this year. ...he needs not just a new coaching staff but a PR firm to help put asses back in seats.

They need to get the city behind them like Old 'Snell did.

They're fighting an uphill battle there for sure.
Miami being a small school with an enrollment around 15,000 hurts on both ends of student support and number of alumni.
Stadium location from what I understand is a big drawback also.

Depends on who you ask. The stadium is closer to Broward than Miami but it's easy to get to from the turnpike. It's no longer in the hood. Which is nice for people who actually want to watch football.

One reason that the old orange bowl used to be filled up for games is after kickoff tickets would be $5 or less and every hood rat in Liberty City would go to the game.....which is also why other teams would hate to go to Miami games.

They were known for fighting and throwing bottles of piss at fans from other teams.


No matter the sport, pro or college, Miami is known for its fair weather fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_vpfblTqng

Baylor has hired Jim Grobe as interim coach.  

Good hire.

Yep I agree. Gained a lot of respect for him as a coach while he was at Wake Forest. And he's the one that did Jeff Bowden in.

I'll take ole miss for over 8.5

Indeed.