[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Workplace security (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/2/2016 9:47:10 AM EDT
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To get into my work you have to scan your ID badge to get through a turnstile gate. Then if you want into the building, scan the badge again, and fingerprint this time. Not everyone has access to all areas. Office people generally cannot get on the production floor, and floor people generally cannot get into the office. They enforce a one swipe one entry rule, so no holding the door open for anyone.
I've seen both office and floor people bitch that they can't get in the other area. How easy is it to get to your work space? |
I'm a bit jealous that you have popcorn 
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At my hobby job?
You can't get to my desk without going through 3 layers of physical security, all 2 factor. Two are PIN + Badge and one is RSA rolling PIN + Badge. Access control is in place to all areas of the building and granted only on an "articulable justifiable business need" basis. That access can take a month of checks and balances to grant, in some cases. Without it, you are required an escort AND must be within visual line of sight of that escort at all times .... including restroom breaks. You have any idea how awkward it is as a grown man to tell a coworker "Hey man, I gotta take a shit, you got time to come with me?" My business? I have no physical security beyond "I don't know you, why are you here?" Of course, the number of people requiring access to the 2 different environments is disparate by several orders of magnitude. Also the sensitivity of the data and processes between the two are incomparable on virtually any level. |
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I can get into just about every floor of our 20+ story building. I think the only ones I can't get into are the HR area and there's an "Executive" floor where the big wigs meet when they're in town.
I have access to more damaging information on my floor than HR, but I guess it's a privacy concern. We have to swipe our badges to get through a revolving door in the lobby to get to the elevators. |
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The place I worked before I retired had unlocked front doors where the public could walk in to a lobby where they would be greeted by a receptionist. From there they would have to be signed in and escorted by an approved employee. Certain areas were ITAR restricted and only approved visitors could be in those areas. All other access doors to the building could be entered if you had your access scan badge. At closing time all doors were denied scan access except for those who were granted after hours access. |
No security whatsoever. We currently office out of one side of a duplex, though. 
We'll be getting an office/warehouse space in the fall. There really won't be any security there, either, unless you count the G19 in my waistband. Most of the employees at my workplace carry, but we aren't the type of place for people to just walk into. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Three scans of my ID to get to my desk. One to get into the building. One to open the stairwell door. One to get out of the stairwell on my floor.
If I were to take the elevator, I could eliminate one scan, but I'm on the third floor, so I walk. We have both armed and unarmed security. Unarmed manning the security desks with armed walking around. |
investment bank. three swipes to get to my room. security guards they refer to as "special operations officers." pretty sure they are unarmed. lots of glass, not sure what swipe stations even do 
also, "Chinese walls." banks need to separate departments on the "buy side" and "sell side." so there is actually a legal or regulatory mandate behind some of the layers. We also have MTA (Mandatory Time Away) designed to uncover illegal or unethical financial schemes. Not sure how much good that does either, though. If a guy is smart enough to run a multi-billion dollar Ponzi scheme, he's smart enough to set it up to coast for a week or two whiles hes out. big banks like mine like the regulation; they can absorb the cost and crush competition from start-ups. |
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Two guard controlled gates in the front of the plant to controll access by vehicles (deliveries, contractors, etc...) the rest of the perimeter is totally unsecured. You could walk into the back of the plant and wipe out the entire crew there and the front end of the plant and the guard shack would never hear a thing. Plus, the entire leadership of the plant meets at the same time and same location each week in an unsecured area. I've mentioned security concerns before, and all I get is blank stares. In my position, I have free range of the entire plant and have already planned multiple egress routes in case of an active shooter. Other than one or two people, No one there I would really risk my life to save either, so I would likely just GTFO... Depending on the situation, I might go to my car and arm myself and try to get to those few people.
They fired a crazy fucker about a month ago, someone they should have never hired. He was fired for in appropriately responding to incessant harassment by his coworkers.. They did nothing to the coworkers who were responsible for the incident. I fully expected the guy to come back and gun some people down... 1DD |
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To get into my work you have to scan your ID badge to get through a turnstile gate. Then if you want into the building, scan the badge again, and fingerprint this time. Not everyone has access to all areas. Office people generally cannot get on the production floor, and floor people generally cannot get into the office. They enforce a one swipe one entry rule, so no holding the door open for anyone. I've seen both office and floor people bitch that they can't get in the other area. How easy is it to get to your work space? My badge will get me in anywhere I want. Except pharmacies. For that I have a Master key. Pretty damn stupid rule if you ask me. |
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Quoted: investment bank. three swipes to get to my room. security guards they refer to as "special operations officers." pretty sure they are unarmed. lots of glass, not sure what swipe stations even do also, "Chinese walls." banks need to separate departments on the "buy side" and "sell side." so there is actually a legal or regulatory mandate behind some of the layers. We also have MTA (Mandatory Time Away) designed to uncover illegal or unethical financial schemes. Not sure how much good that does either, though. If a guy is smart enough to run a multi-billion dollar Ponzi scheme, he's smart enough to set it up to coast for a week or two whiles hes out. big banks like mine like the regulation; they can absorb the cost and crush competition from start-ups. My wife works for a investment bank also. Her situation is as you describe. She even has an armed drug/bomb dog and handler on duty 24/7. Every employee, even the CFO is required to take two weeks off, back to back per year for security purposes. All their access is turned off, even remote logins. My wife is in charge of corporate data security and its a huge pain in the ass to get her removed from access, but its done and another manager is put on duty. The nice thing about this deal is first year hires get 3 weeks off. |
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Office? Just walk on in.
Datacenter? Two factor (two man) multiple biometric plus escort. Prox cards are required at several points. Basically everything is two man. Several of us pack heat also. I have been to datacenters with man traps that weighed you as you stepped in. If your weight was off by so much from your recorded stats...no entrance and you had to be manually released by security. Kept people from following you in. One datacenter I went to was like something out of a movie. There was a gallery of security behind bulletproof glass you had to pass in front of. Each of them had a gun port to prevent anyone they didn't want going in from entering deeper into the facility or leaving with anything. I cannot imagine what kind of / whose stuff was in there and i don't really even care. I just did what I needed to and left. |
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1 hr chopper flight over water to an oil production platform in the Gulf of Mexico. After heliport security. Good luck with that.  Certainly some big wig on the platform needs to have a surprise catered birthday party with Erika Eleniak in a cake flown out on a Chinook. Right? |
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I have to badge into the building lobby, badge into the actual internal area (open to everyone with building access), then badge into my lab (only four people have this access).
How much security vs. a determined intruder? Fuck all. But god help you if your license plate isn't in the system, you'll hear about that before 9am. |
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Show your HSPD-12 compliant ID card to get thru the gates to the facility, swipe the HID card thru the reader to get into the building, show the ID again to security in the lobby, then swipe the HID at the doors on each floor to get into the workspace....
HQ required all of the above, plus ID card swipe& PIN entry before you could go to the elevator lobby Computers have required the PIV cards for the past 4-5 years...... |