[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Trump question (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/31/2016 12:25:05 PM EDT
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. lol |
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Quoted: He cant make conservatives look retarded by running as a Dem. Quoted: Quoted: Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? He cant make conservatives look retarded by running as a Dem. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? |
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I don't think he's a democrat anymore than he's a conservative or a republican.
Trump is about Trump. He has some liberal views on guns, healthcare, and society and he has some populist views on other things like immigration. Then, he's just a big government guy on stuff like security and privacy. I'm not convinced he's a liberal plant. I honestly think his candidacy was originally a publicity stunt and a protest against our current crop of politicians. That's why he's been unable to articulate the actual details of how he would run this country - I don't think he actually thought he would get this far. Well, and his supporters don't seem to care, so why draw a line in the sand, right? |
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I don't think he's a democrat anymore than he's a conservative or a republican. Trump is about Trump. He has some liberal views on guns, healthcare, and society and he has some populist views on other things like immigration. Then, he's just a big government guy on stuff like security and privacy. I'm not convinced he's a liberal plant. I honestly think his candidacy was originally a publicity stunt and a protest against our current crop of politicians. That's why he's been unable to articulate the actual details of how he would run this country - I don't think he actually thought he would get this far. Well, and his supporters don't seem to care, so why draw a line in the sand, right? This I believe. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? The undying gratitude of the ARFcom GD Cruzettes who will, forever, be able to say . . . "Told ya' so ! ! ! . . . Na na na na na nahh ! ! ! " 
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? Yes |
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Remember, ARFCom's brightest minds have told us Trump is an egotistical, power-hungry maniac Hitler, who will totally throw the election to Hillary once he has the Presidency within his reach.
Yeah, that's how retarded and desperate the Trump-haters are. They see no conflict in that logic. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? Yes Will his business do better with Clinton in the White House? |
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Remember, ARFCom's brightest minds have told us Trump is an egotistical, power-hungry maniac Hitler, who will totally throw the election to Hillary once he has the Presidency within his reach. Yeah, that's how retarded and desperate the Trump-haters are. They see no conflict in that logic. What proof exists, pre his candidacy, to guide us on how he might actually govern? |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Two words: Super Delegates It seems like if he really wanted to win, he would have thought he had a better shot against a group of 3, rather than a group of 17. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? The Dem machine is going to shove through Hillary. He saw it as an easier path to a nomination, and he thought Hillary would be a weak general opponent. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? Let's for the moment say Trump wants Hillary to win. Traditional method is he pledges to donate millions and millions of dollars ala Soros or the Kochs to back a candidate. Trump method:, run as a Republican, get over $30 million (to date) worth of donations of other people's money and destroy conservatism by running as a caricature of it. |
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Let's for the moment say Trump wants Hillary to win. Traditional method is he pledges to donate millions and millions of dollars ala Soros or the Kochs to back a candidate. Trump method:, run as a Republican, get over $30 million (to date) worth of donations of other people's money and destroy conservatism by running as a caricature of it. Quoted:
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? Let's for the moment say Trump wants Hillary to win. Traditional method is he pledges to donate millions and millions of dollars ala Soros or the Kochs to back a candidate. Trump method:, run as a Republican, get over $30 million (to date) worth of donations of other people's money and destroy conservatism by running as a caricature of it. I don't think he has raised $30 million in donations...I think they said $7 million in that town hall the other day |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Two words: Super Delegates That is the correct answer. Democrat nominees are all but pre-ordained. |
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It seems like if he really wanted to win, he would have thought he had a better shot against a group of 3, rather than a group of 17. Quoted:
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Two words: Super Delegates It seems like if he really wanted to win, he would have thought he had a better shot against a group of 3, rather than a group of 17. Ask Bernie how easy it is to win against Hillary and her super delegates. The Democrat game is rigged. |
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It seems like if he really wanted to win, he would have thought he had a better shot against a group of 3, rather than a group of 17. Quoted:
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Two words: Super Delegates It seems like if he really wanted to win, he would have thought he had a better shot against a group of 3, rather than a group of 17. Not when everyone knew since Obama named Clinton as SECSTATE that she'd be the front runner in 2016. Trump learned a lot from his 2000 Presidential run. He saw you had to be the nominee of the (D)s or the (R)s. If not, the best you can hope for is to play spoiler. He looked at what party had the rules that best favored an outside candidate and what front runner was the weakest. The GOP and Yeb were that. |
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It is much easier and open to run in the Republican Party.
Hillary (for instance) started with an advantage in delegates in the Democrat Party. Yeah, Trumps New York liberal platform puts him more in-line with Democrats. Trump *was* a registered Democrat who supported Obama in 2008...link Yeah, Trumps liberal New York playboy lifestyle and support for anti-gun Democrats though out his life put him in line with the Democrat Party... But he knew the reality is that the Republican Party is more open compared to Democrats... The entire process is easier on the Repub side... To be clear, I think both New York liberals... Hillary *and* Trump are pure, pure evil. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? Let's for the moment say Trump wants Hillary to win. Traditional method is he pledges to donate millions and millions of dollars ala Soros or the Kochs to back a candidate. Trump method:, run as a Republican, get over $30 million (to date) worth of donations of other people's money and destroy conservatism by running as a caricature of it. I don't think he has raised $30 million in donations...I think they said $7 million in that town hall the other day Correct, my bad, the $30M was the rollup including the self-financing. The point is valid tho...he's spending as much or less than if he'd just pledged a huge amount, gotten others to also donate, and done far more damage to the GOP. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? Hypothetically speaking he gains the same thing he gained when he donated money to her in the past: the ability to do business without the government getting in his way. Personally I don't buy the democrat sleeper agent theory. I just think Trump is an narcissistic egomaniac wholly unsuited to be president and utterly ignorant of every facet of government. |
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Also, conspiracy theory aside, Trump simply could not have run a campaign like his under the Democrat flag. The Democrats would have rejected him out of hand.
His has been the angry protest campaign. You can't run that as a Democrat coming off 8 years of Democrat Presidency. And all he has is the angry protest shtick. He has nothing else, just look at him when he opens his mouth. He co-opted the GOP opportunity. |
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It is much easier and open to run in the Republican Party. Hillary (for instance) started with an advantage in delegates in the Democrat Party. Yeah, Trumps New York liberal platform puts him more in-line with Democrats. Trump *was* a registered Democrat who supported Obama in 2008...link Yeah, Trumps liberal New York playboy lifestyle and support for anti-gun Democrats though out his life put him in line with the Democrat Party... But he knew the reality is that the Republican Party is more open compared to Democrats... The entire process is easier on the Repub side... To be clear, I think both New York liberals... Hillary *and* Trump are pure, pure evil. As opposed to a conservative playboy lifestyle? Or libertarian playboy lifestyle? What does this even mean? |
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I don't think he's a democrat anymore than he's a conservative or a republican. Trump is about Trump. He has some liberal views on guns, healthcare, and society and he has some populist views on other things like immigration. Then, he's just a big government guy on stuff like security and privacy. I'm not convinced he's a liberal plant. I honestly think his candidacy was originally a publicity stunt and a protest against our current crop of politicians. That's why he's been unable to articulate the actual details of how he would run this country - I don't think he actually thought he would get this far. Well, and his supporters don't seem to care, so why draw a line in the sand, right? Liberal views on guns? Like what? Trump makes it a staple at his rallies to encourage people to conceal carry, he points to someone in the crowd and says if you had a gun strapped to your waist and a terrorist starting shooting, you could stop him I don't see Cruz doing that |
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Liberal views on guns? Like what? Trump makes it a staple at his rallies to encourage people to conceal carry, he points to someone in the crowd and says if you had a gun strapped to your waist and a terrorist starting shooting, you could stop him I don't see Cruz doing that Quoted:
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I don't think he's a democrat anymore than he's a conservative or a republican. Trump is about Trump. He has some liberal views on guns, healthcare, and society and he has some populist views on other things like immigration. Then, he's just a big government guy on stuff like security and privacy. I'm not convinced he's a liberal plant. I honestly think his candidacy was originally a publicity stunt and a protest against our current crop of politicians. That's why he's been unable to articulate the actual details of how he would run this country - I don't think he actually thought he would get this far. Well, and his supporters don't seem to care, so why draw a line in the sand, right? Liberal views on guns? Like what? Trump makes it a staple at his rallies to encourage people to conceal carry, he points to someone in the crowd and says if you had a gun strapped to your waist and a terrorist starting shooting, you could stop him I don't see Cruz doing that You're right that he's become a pretty solid supporter of the 2A since he announced his candidacy; at least in terms of his rhetoric. But he's also on record as saying the following: It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. After a tragedy like the massacre at Columbine High School, anyone could feel that it is too easy for Americans to get their hands on weapons. But nobody has a good solution. This is another issue where you see the extremes of the two existing major parties. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within seventy-two hours if a potential gun owner has a record. Granted, that won't get him a lifetime achievement award from the Brady Campaign, but it's not exactly in line with what we (self-described conservatives) would want our candidate to believe. So which is it then? Before running for elected office as a "conservative", he wrote he favors some forms of gun control, including an AWB. After he announces, his position changes. |
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You're right that he's become a pretty solid supporter of the 2A since he announced his candidacy; at least in terms of his rhetoric. But he's also on record as saying the following: Granted, that won't get him a lifetime achievement award from the Brady Campaign, but it's not exactly in line with what we (self-described conservatives) would want our candidate to believe. So which is it then? Before running for elected office as a "conservative", he wrote he favors some forms of gun control, including an AWB. After he announces, his position changes. Quoted:
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I don't think he's a democrat anymore than he's a conservative or a republican. Trump is about Trump. He has some liberal views on guns, healthcare, and society and he has some populist views on other things like immigration. Then, he's just a big government guy on stuff like security and privacy. I'm not convinced he's a liberal plant. I honestly think his candidacy was originally a publicity stunt and a protest against our current crop of politicians. That's why he's been unable to articulate the actual details of how he would run this country - I don't think he actually thought he would get this far. Well, and his supporters don't seem to care, so why draw a line in the sand, right? Liberal views on guns? Like what? Trump makes it a staple at his rallies to encourage people to conceal carry, he points to someone in the crowd and says if you had a gun strapped to your waist and a terrorist starting shooting, you could stop him I don't see Cruz doing that You're right that he's become a pretty solid supporter of the 2A since he announced his candidacy; at least in terms of his rhetoric. But he's also on record as saying the following: It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. After a tragedy like the massacre at Columbine High School, anyone could feel that it is too easy for Americans to get their hands on weapons. But nobody has a good solution. This is another issue where you see the extremes of the two existing major parties. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within seventy-two hours if a potential gun owner has a record. Granted, that won't get him a lifetime achievement award from the Brady Campaign, but it's not exactly in line with what we (self-described conservatives) would want our candidate to believe. So which is it then? Before running for elected office as a "conservative", he wrote he favors some forms of gun control, including an AWB. After he announces, his position changes. What is his stance on an AWB now? I have heard him say he is opposed to gun control now, but I haven't heard anyone ask about an AWB specifically. |
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Quoted: Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? |
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Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. Quoted:
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. 
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No, Trump is a populist, and why is that a bad thing? If he can defeat liberalism, its policies, and its hypocrisies then I say go for it. No one cares about labels any more, because the people we have voted for in the past who wear such labels to get elected end up stabbing us in the back. Who cares if Trump isn't an ideological conservative? He wants to put America first (secure borders, stop ISIS, pro-American trade deals, non-interventionism, non-politically motivated defense contracts, ect..). As a conservative and a VETERAN that is something I can get behind. Quoted:
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? The "how" is important. He hasn't described how he would do any of this in detail. So we're just supposed to accept his word on faith? Maybe people who care for their leader to be ideologically similar to them? ETA: What is Trump's ethos? What guides him, if he's not a true conservative? How will he make the hard decisions? |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? 
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What is his stance on an AWB now? I have heard him say he is opposed to gun control now, but I haven't heard anyone ask about an AWB specifically. Good question. I am not able to locate an answer. ETA: He has not defined what gun control actually means to him. He said he supported longer wait times, and an AWB at the same time he said he doesn't support gun control. So if an AWB isn't what he would consider to be gun control, what is? |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. What does he gain though, by helping Clinton? Let's for the moment say Trump wants Hillary to win. Traditional method is he pledges to donate millions and millions of dollars ala Soros or the Kochs to back a candidate. Trump method:, run as a Republican, get over $30 million (to date) worth of donations of other people's money and destroy conservatism by running as a caricature of it. I don't think he has raised $30 million in donations...I think they said $7 million in that town hall the other day Last numbers that I have seen, Trump has raised a bit over $30 million in total . . . but . . . $24 million of it has been from his own "self-funding" . . . . . . the $7 million is what has come in from public donations. 
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Ted Cruz is an arrogant and self-absorbed holier than thou douchebag who has been playing the role of pious Christian Warrior. And you have that Crazy Beck guy with his Magic Underwear shilling for him.That's a big part of his appeal to his misguided fans. However, all along he's been behaving in a very un-Christian fashion, and he continually gets away with it. Now, it seems that he's been cheating on his wife. He's a phony, a liar, and a manipulator. I'd rather have someone who tries to ally with Russia than a liar, a cheat, and a phony. Potentially allying with Russia will cause this country no real harm whatsoever. |
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Not sure if this has been covered but, for the people who say Trump us a democrat and can't be trusted... Why didn't he just run as a democrat? Running as a Democrat doesn't help Hillary and hurt the GOP. Yes; by entering the race as a Republican, that dirty rat bastard Trump hurt the GOP and the media as well, by tankng their plans to coronate JEB Bush and install him as the candidate against Hillary Clinton in another rim job of an "election." That rotten bastard Trump has "hurt the GOP". 
Fuckimg morons. 
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