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Posted: 2/27/2016 12:34:58 PM EDT
I have a grandson who is autistic. And aren't these liberal pot smoking anything go types vehemently against the death penalty? I have read this article twice and I don't know what to believe
In early childhood, the Dutch psychiatric patient known as 2014-77 suffered neglect and abuse. When he was about 10, doctors diagnosed him with autism. For approximately two decades thereafter, he was in and out of treatment and made repeated suicide attempts. He suffered terribly, doctors later observed, from his inability to form relationships: “He responded to matters in a spontaneous and intense, sometimes even extreme, way. This led to problems.” A few years ago, 2014-77 asked a psychiatrist to end his life. In the Netherlands, doctors may perform euthanasia — not only for terminal physical illness but also upon the “voluntary and well-considered” request of those suffering “unbearably” from incurable mental conditions. The doctor declined, citing his belief the case was treatable, as well as his own moral qualms. But he did transmit the request to colleagues, as Dutch norms require. They treated 2014-77 for one more year, determined his case was, indeed, hopeless and administered a fatal dose of drugs. Thus did a man in his 30s whose only diagnosis was autism become one of 110 people to be euthanized for mental disorders in the Netherlands between 2011 and 2014 “Will psychiatrists conclude from the legalization of assisted death that it is acceptable to give up on treating some patients?” Appelbaum asks. Some doctors already have. In 2009, a 37-year-old Belgian woman became distraught after a romantic breakup and began seeking a doctor to euthanize her, per that country’s law, which is similar to Holland’s. The woman, Tine Nys, had a history of mental illness, including a teenage suicide attempt, but had more recently been doing well. In February 2010, she received a new diagnosis of autism and, two months later, a lethal injection. Link |
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Their life, their choice. A lot better than trying to do it yourself.
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Not to promote euthanasia, but if that happened over here he would have just been a gun death statistic after he ate a 9mm.
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The only way for leftists to control the cost of their nanny state is to deny services. Euthanasia is the ultimate denial of service.
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Your mental illness is so bad that you are allowed to decide to be euthanized? Lol wtf sense does that make.
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If they're high functioning enough to determine they don't want to live anymore, that's fine with me.
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The Dutch are pragmatic merchants, and generally dislike the hippie bullshit related to drug use. So I hear.
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So, the moral is this; Euthanize those fuckers, before they do you. |
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sounds to me like freedom.
I want to die, and am allowed to. |
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Yeah..you missed the point, it is not freedom, but cold blooded murder. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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sounds to me like freedom. I want to die, and am allowed to. Yeah..you missed the point, it is not freedom, but cold blooded murder. We're so uncomfortable with death in the West we cannot fathom the idea that people might not want to live. We may try to explain away their desires to die with "mental illness" diagnoses, but I say if they want to go, let them go. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_23z9yJAq0 Autism is interesting... Starting at about 1:00 It really shows how continually evil human minds are, if a malfunction causes THIS to come out View Quote |
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Leftists/progressives/liberals/socialists/communists and whatever the hell else the Filthy Reds call themselves are one mustached cocksucker away from throwing on a snazzy uniform and herding their neighbors into concentration camps.
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Yeah..you missed the point, it is not freedom, but cold blooded murder. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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sounds to me like freedom. I want to die, and am allowed to. Yeah..you missed the point, it is not freedom, but cold blooded murder. how is it cold blooded murder to help someone kill them self? in fact, it is absolutely NOT murder, otherwise those doctors would have been charged at least, right? |
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I don't see what the issue is. He was miserable in life, had an untreatable condition, and wanted to take the express checkout option. Imagine knowing you have a mental condition that will make it so you're unable to ever make friends, form relationships or live a remotely fulfilling life
Would you prefer it if he had just shot himself, jumped in front of a train or jumped off a building like suicidal people do here? |
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It was assisted suicide, not Youth In Asia. View Quote |
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Self-ownership means that people can dispose of their property as they see fit. This includes their person.
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That's my grandson, he is getting big now, 12 yo and bigger and heavier than me, eventually someone who does not understand will give him the Bronx Party Hat View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_23z9yJAq0 Autism is interesting... Starting at about 1:00 It really shows how continually evil human minds are, if a malfunction causes THIS to come out He may end up handing out the headwear. |
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Autistic people may follow you to the death chamber thinking it's food or something and not even perceive what the injection is about. I had a 15 yo autistic kid look at me and say "why don't you drop dead for five years"? A person who does not understand death deserves the needle? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It was assisted suicide, not Youth In Asia. There are different levels of autism. Some are higher functioning and some are lower. It's not like all autistic people are drooling idiots who don't know what's going on. Sounds like the guy in the story was a higher functioning individual who was well aware of what death is. It's widely thought that Eliot Rodgers was autistic. He went on a shooting spree out of frustration caused by his inability to form relationships with other people. He felt completely alienated and wondered if he was even human. |
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They just consider it Post Birth Abortion, coming to the Progressive USA
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He may end up handing out the headwear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_23z9yJAq0 Autism is interesting... Starting at about 1:00 It really shows how continually evil human minds are, if a malfunction causes THIS to come out He may end up handing out the headwear. |
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There are different levels of autism. Some are higher functioning and some are lower. It's not like all autistic people are drooling idiots who don't know what's going on. Sounds like the guy in the store was a higher functioning individual who was well aware of what death is. It's widely thought that Eliot Rodgers was autistic. He went on a shooting spree out of frustration caused by his inability to form relationships with other people. He felt completely alienated and wondered if he was even human. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It was assisted suicide, not Youth In Asia. There are different levels of autism. Some are higher functioning and some are lower. It's not like all autistic people are drooling idiots who don't know what's going on. Sounds like the guy in the store was a higher functioning individual who was well aware of what death is. It's widely thought that Eliot Rodgers was autistic. He went on a shooting spree out of frustration caused by his inability to form relationships with other people. He felt completely alienated and wondered if he was even human. |
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Euthanasia was always a "progressive" movement. It just had to quiet down a bit after the 40s.
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Autistic people may follow you to the death chamber thinking it's food or something and not even perceive what the injection is about. I had a 15 yo autistic kid look at me and say "why don't you drop dead for five years"? A person who does not understand death deserves the needle? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It was assisted suicide, not Youth In Asia. I guess he got sick of reading all your threads. J/k dude. Also, I say if a person wants to die, who are we to stop them from doing it in a controlled, painless way? |
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Quoted: We're so uncomfortable with death in the West we cannot fathom the idea that people might not want to live. We may try to explain away their desires to die with "mental illness" diagnoses, but I say if they want to go, let them go. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: sounds to me like freedom. I want to die, and am allowed to. Yeah..you missed the point, it is not freedom, but cold blooded murder. We're so uncomfortable with death in the West we cannot fathom the idea that people might not want to live. We may try to explain away their desires to die with "mental illness" diagnoses, but I say if they want to go, let them go. The point is they are killing them without consent. They are being killed because they are autistic, and socially awkward. So, half of GD would get vaporized without their consent. Next, would be euthanization because you do not think like they do. |
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Good for the Dutch and the miserable people they have assisted by request.
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The point is they are killing them without consent. They are being killed because they are autistic, and socially awkward. So, half of GD would get vaporized without their consent. Next, would be euthanization because you do not think like they do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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sounds to me like freedom. I want to die, and am allowed to. Yeah..you missed the point, it is not freedom, but cold blooded murder. We're so uncomfortable with death in the West we cannot fathom the idea that people might not want to live. We may try to explain away their desires to die with "mental illness" diagnoses, but I say if they want to go, let them go. The point is they are killing them without consent. They are being killed because they are autistic, and socially awkward. So, half of GD would get vaporized without their consent. Next, would be euthanization because you do not think like they do. The guy in the OP's story WANTED to die. He even sought out another doctor after the first refused. How does that show a lack of consent? |
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This isn't the government involuntarily killing autistic persons.
It is psychologically sound autistic persons who will never see improvement in their medical state choosing to end their own lives with the assistance of a physician. All the the people of the Netherlands decided was not to criminalize this decision by the autistic person or the assistance of a physician. IMO it is no different from a psychologically sound person with dozens of incurable conditions choosing to own their own inevitable death and choosing to die by their own hand or choosing not to undergo life prolonging treatment. If you ever signed a Do Not Resuscitate Order for a parent, sibling or extended family member you did the same thing. You helped that person die on their on terms, If you do not own the fact of your death, and are denied the ability to choose to exercise your inherent right to end your life on grounds you choose, then you are not, and have never been free. |
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The point is they are killing them without consent. They are being killed because they are autistic, and socially awkward. So, half of GD would get vaporized without their consent. Next, would be euthanization because you do not think like they do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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sounds to me like freedom. I want to die, and am allowed to. Yeah..you missed the point, it is not freedom, but cold blooded murder. We're so uncomfortable with death in the West we cannot fathom the idea that people might not want to live. We may try to explain away their desires to die with "mental illness" diagnoses, but I say if they want to go, let them go. The point is they are killing them without consent. They are being killed because they are autistic, and socially awkward. So, half of GD would get vaporized without their consent. Next, would be euthanization because you do not think like they do. |
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When he gets violent, I duck, I am hoping that cops or any authority go easy on him or he does not get shot or stabbed in the Bronx View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_23z9yJAq0 Autism is interesting... Starting at about 1:00 It really shows how continually evil human minds are, if a malfunction causes THIS to come out He may end up handing out the headwear. While I am very understanding of disabilities...perhaps more so than most...I also understand that harm caused to me is just as permanent regardless of who causes it. It is why I prefer BJJ and Muay Thai techniques on duty. The most recent episode in dealing with a "disability" about two years ago I was able to leg kick hard enough to sweep him off his feet then do a Rear naked, I mean a vascular neck restraint, and put him out to cuff him. May have looked excessive but it did the least damage to him and me. |
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I have no point here, just that Europe is so anti death penalty, and 110 people took a needle, I don't know. Assisted suicide or not, it's still execution, state sanctioned, even doctor ordered View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's your point, OP? Assisted suicide or not, it's still execution, state sanctioned, even doctor ordered Where are you seeing doctor ordered in this? People want to kill themselves and they're going to a doctor to request it be done medically, rather than them jumping in front of a train or something. |
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I have no point here, just that Europe is so anti death penalty, and 110 people took a needle, I don't know. Assisted suicide or not, it's still execution suicide, state sanctioned, even doctor ordered consented. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's your point, OP? Assisted suicide or not, it's still execution suicide, state sanctioned, even doctor ordered consented. I may be naive but I doubt if the Dr's are running around looking for people to euthanize. Mercy killing perhaps? |
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