Posted: 2/24/2016 11:37:56 AM EDT
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Trump: chaotic good or chaotic neutral? Maybe true neutral?
I was never a fan, but considering the field I had him in my top five. I also thought that while loud and abrasive he was for the most part "good". Trump moved the conversation enough to the right to boot Jeb and give Cruz a fighting chance so I thank him for that. But as of late I feel he is increasingly all over the place and really starting to show that he lacks conviction on any topic. While I have no qualms voting for him and know he'll be a better choice than anyone on Team D, I don't expect much (if any) reduction in the size of government or gains in firearm rights. In short I like the dialog that Trump opened up but am much less enthused about him actually being president. But to the question at hand: if trump where a role playing character, what is his alignment? I'm leaning towards chaotic or true neutral. |
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Cruz is Lawful Good Rubio is Neutral Good Kasich is Lawful Neutral Trump is Chaotic Evil Sanders is Neutral Evil Clinton is Lawful Evil Evil? A neutral at worst, caring more for himself than any ideals. Evil would be actively promoting progressive reform. |
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Evil? A neutral at worst, caring more for himself than any ideals. Evil would be actively promoting progressive reform. Quoted:
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Cruz is Lawful Good Rubio is Neutral Good Kasich is Lawful Neutral Trump is Chaotic Evil Sanders is Neutral Evil Clinton is Lawful Evil Evil? A neutral at worst, caring more for himself than any ideals. Evil would be actively promoting progressive reform. I don't know, dude. Being a self serving prick regardless of the cost to other people is probably a trait that falls under "evil". |
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I don't know, dude. Being a self serving prick regardless of the cost to other people is probably a trait that falls under "evil". Quoted:
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Cruz is Lawful Good Rubio is Neutral Good Kasich is Lawful Neutral Trump is Chaotic Evil Sanders is Neutral Evil Clinton is Lawful Evil Evil? A neutral at worst, caring more for himself than any ideals. Evil would be actively promoting progressive reform. I don't know, dude. Being a self serving prick regardless of the cost to other people is probably a trait that falls under "evil". Usually that falls under "Chaotic." Actual Evil would require him taking actions specifically because they cause others pain. |
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Chaotic neutral.
If you didn't play D&D, you don't have the background to weigh in. He's chaotic because there are no rules he'll apply to himself, but will use law to apply to others to seek his goals. He's neutral because all sycophants and narcissists are. He's not loyal to good or evil. He's loyal to himself; like a paid assassin. For you lessers, Alignment for lessers |
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Usually that falls under "Chaotic." Actual Evil would require him taking actions specifically because they cause others pain. Quoted:
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Cruz is Lawful Good Rubio is Neutral Good Kasich is Lawful Neutral Trump is Chaotic Evil Sanders is Neutral Evil Clinton is Lawful Evil Evil? A neutral at worst, caring more for himself than any ideals. Evil would be actively promoting progressive reform. I don't know, dude. Being a self serving prick regardless of the cost to other people is probably a trait that falls under "evil". Usually that falls under "Chaotic." Actual Evil would require him taking actions specifically because they cause others pain. Fair enough. |
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I don't know, dude. Being a self serving prick regardless of the cost to other people is probably a trait that falls under "evil". Quoted:
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Cruz is Lawful Good Rubio is Neutral Good Kasich is Lawful Neutral Trump is Chaotic Evil Sanders is Neutral Evil Clinton is Lawful Evil Evil? A neutral at worst, caring more for himself than any ideals. Evil would be actively promoting progressive reform. I don't know, dude. Being a self serving prick regardless of the cost to other people is probably a trait that falls under "evil". 
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That's a good point. Sanders is a true believer and closer to Lawful Evil. Hillary cares little about the rules and would be Chaotic Evil. Quoted:
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LOL - Clinton and "lawful" in the same sentence. That's a good point. Sanders is a true believer and closer to Lawful Evil. Hillary cares little about the rules and would be Chaotic Evil. My reasoning behind that is because she's the Democrat Establishment candidate. In my mind she kind of personifies somebody who'd use the force of law, and technicality specifically to shut down her opponents. Even if she doesn't obey it herself. |
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Cruz is Lawful Good Rubio is Neutral Good Kasich is Lawful Neutral Trump is Chaotic Evil Sanders is Neutral Evil Clinton is Lawful Evil Evil? A neutral at worst, caring more for himself than any ideals. Evil would be actively promoting progressive reform. I don't know, dude. Being a self serving prick regardless of the cost to other people is probably a trait that falls under "evil". http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/192/492/full-retard.gif You saying that guys like Kim Jong Un, and Stalin aren't evil? They sure as shit aren't ideologues. |
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I'd call Trump a True Neutral, or Neutral Good. Anyone who builds things is not Chaotic and anyone who professes a belief in the rule of law, and abides by it (remember, he didn't make the rules) is not Evil. Yeah, I hear that Josef Mengele was an alright guy. The law does not always represent what is right, and you can believe in the rule of law and be a complete bastard. Likewise you can completely shed any belief in the rule of law, and be "good". IE: Anybody who doesn't obey gun laws, but isn't hurting anybody. They're criminals, but not "evil". |
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Chaotic neutral. If you didn't play D&D, you don't have the background to weigh in. He's chaotic because there are no rules he'll apply to himself, but will use law to apply to others to seek his goals. He's neutral because all sycophants and narcissists are. He's not loyal to good or evil. He's loyal to himself; like a paid assassin. For you lessers, Alignment for lessers NAILED IT. |
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You saying that guys like Kim Jong Un, and Stalin aren't evil? They sure as shit aren't ideologues. Quoted:
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Cruz is Lawful Good Rubio is Neutral Good Kasich is Lawful Neutral Trump is Chaotic Evil Sanders is Neutral Evil Clinton is Lawful Evil Evil? A neutral at worst, caring more for himself than any ideals. Evil would be actively promoting progressive reform. I don't know, dude. Being a self serving prick regardless of the cost to other people is probably a trait that falls under "evil". http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/192/492/full-retard.gif You saying that guys like Kim Jong Un, and Stalin aren't evil? They sure as shit aren't ideologues. I can't imagine how high a person would have to be to think you are making any sense. |
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My reasoning behind that is because she's the Democrat Establishment candidate. You're right, but I think that is more of a knock on the Democratic Party than an endorsement or legitimizing of Clinton. And if The Party is going to rig the vote for Hillary than they too are acting above the rule of law, even if it is their own law. Chaotic Evil, the whole lot. |
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for my fellow dungeonmasters, there's a D&D character calculator on that link I posted
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