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2/17/2016 3:21:24 PM EDT
Encrypted as well as the Apple Iphones?

because I don't like apple but that encryption level seems nice.
2/17/2016 3:23:22 PM EDT
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Encrypted as well as the Apple Iphones?

because I don't like apple but that encryption level seems nice.
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How to Encrypt Your Android Phone and Why You Might Want To

Edit to add: Phone and laptop encryption guide: Protect your stuff and yourself
2/17/2016 3:23:51 PM EDT
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My Blackberry Z-30 is fully encrypted. Fuck the government and thieves. Steal my phone? Might as well throw it away because it is a brick.
2/17/2016 3:25:20 PM EDT
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Android users are all very smart. They roll their own encryption.

Just ask them.

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2/17/2016 3:28:14 PM EDT
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My droid is.
2/17/2016 3:30:12 PM EDT
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Interesting fact I learned in the other, more technical thread on this topic, with our current computing technology/power, it would take longer to decrypt an alpha numeric iPhone pass code than it would for the universe to die of heat death.

It is apparently the pinnacle of current encryption technology.

I was surprised by this, and am going to buy an iPhone as a result.
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Does Android not have similar encryption technology? Are they really that far behind the curve?
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Yes. On the latest Google phones it's even on by default and one has to go through a lot of trouble if they want to disable it (ie there is no option in the options menu to disable it even).

Full disk encryption has been in since IIRC Froyo days (2.2ish aka 2009ish time frame) but it's changed over the years and is far better.

Various info on the latest encryption schemes:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/android-6-0-re-implements-mandatory-device-encryption-for-new-devices/
https://source.android.com/security/encryption/

New phones also have secure boot and all sorts of good security features enabled as well... Even to root you have to intentionally subvert these controls which means when you boot you get a nasty warning logo to let you know something may have been tampered with.
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Anything new running Lollipop (5.x) or better has significant improvements. Especially with the bootloader in a Locked state, you are in a pretty good state. But very similar to IOS there are no hardware lockout attempts, even though it has to go through the TEE and Scrypt slows attempts significantly, there is no hardware attempt lockout count. Very similar to the controversy with Apple right now, a malicious OS signed by Google could implement a brute force attack against a shorter pattern/pin and eventually unlock it (still very very slow). Longer passwords and to a degree long PINs should still take several years minimum (a longer password would be more like end of time).

The older Android 4.x wasn't too bad either, but it did not rely on a TEE or any hardware key mechanisms, so it relied much heavier on the password used to encrypt the device. There were tools to use a different password for cold boots vs a lock screen unlock which was one thing I used to ensure my device would have stayed secure in the event it was attacked.
2/17/2016 3:33:59 PM EDT
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Android users are all very smart. They roll their own encryption.



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I actually removed the encryption on my phone
2/17/2016 4:06:29 PM EDT
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Did I make it before the phone war?
2/17/2016 4:09:36 PM EDT
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yes
2/17/2016 4:12:00 PM EDT
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No idea. I have an S4 with a 10 digit passphrase. It's kind of a pain to type in but I like being difficult.
2/17/2016 4:13:07 PM EDT
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I really enjoy my Android, wouldn't even consider going Iphone again.
2/17/2016 4:19:38 PM EDT
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My phone is encrypted.  I have no idea how secure that encryption is but I doubt it's anything that can't be cracked by the government.
2/17/2016 4:28:33 PM EDT
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I have no idea if my S4 is or not.

Should I be worried ?
2/17/2016 4:34:46 PM EDT
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If you're using full disk encryption you'll be asked for a password before your device can boot into Android.
2/17/2016 4:39:57 PM EDT
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If you're using full disk encryption you'll be asked for a password before your device can boot into Android.
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I have no idea if my S4 is or not.

Should I be worried ?


If you're using full disk encryption you'll be asked for a password before your device can boot into Android.


Ok. Don't use any passwords.

Don't do any banking or transactions with it either, basically a phone for texting and handy for a pocket camera.