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1/31/2016 6:46:08 PM EDT
I'm about to move to a house with a chunk of land and I need a way to keep my dog right around the house.  I'll be renting so fencing a part of the yard will be A) possibly not allowed and B) more money than I want to spend.



Does anyone have experience with one of the in-ground electric fences?  Recommendations on brand, etc?
1/31/2016 6:49:55 PM EDT
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Do some training with a Dogtra collar. It will take a little diligence on your part, but once the dog knows
it's boundaries, you're GTG.

The trick is not to let him associate the correction with the little device in your hand. If he figures that out, you're finished!
1/31/2016 6:50:17 PM EDT
[#2]
I use a wireless fence. Works great.
1/31/2016 6:51:10 PM EDT
[#3]
What good is an invisible dag?
1/31/2016 6:56:05 PM EDT
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He'd be an amazing hunter and you can take him anywhere, especially places that don't allow pets?






1/31/2016 6:57:32 PM EDT
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I used one for a few years, works great until the neighbors complained non stop about how cruel they were. No we just let grandpa roam around freely and hope he don't get hit by a car.
1/31/2016 6:58:54 PM EDT
[#6]
I put one in around our property that bordered Cleveland National Forest.



Every time I came home the dogs were waiting on the other side of it so they could come back home.



They could hit it at a full speed run chasing a coyote (and not get shocked) but when walking back to the wire line they would hear the warning on their collars and just sit and wait for me to come home
1/31/2016 7:01:00 PM EDT
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Do some training with a Dogtra collar. It will take a little diligence on your part, but once the dog knows

it's boundaries, you're GTG.



The trick is not to let him associate the correction with the little device in your hand. If he figures that out, you're finished!
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I thought about that.  I will probably get one of those so I can train him to stay near me during hikes.




He's smart as hell but he loves to sniff and roam.  I need to work on his "don't get far away from me" training because he currently has none.
1/31/2016 7:01:32 PM EDT
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I put one in around our property that bordered Cleveland National Forest.





Every time I came home the dogs were waiting on the other side of it so they could come back home.





They could hit it at a full speed run chasing a coyote (and not get shocked) but when walking back to the wire line they would hear the warning on their collars and just sit and wait for me to come home
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That's exactly what I'm worried about.  He's fast as hell and he's the type of dog that opens gates/doors so I'm concerned that he'll figure out how to get past the shocky part.


 
1/31/2016 7:02:38 PM EDT
[#9]
Some dogs, regardless of how hot you run your system, will still blow through it to get at something they really want, it's rare but it happens.
1/31/2016 7:04:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Got one.  Work great at keeping my dogs in, useless for keeping other dogs out so fights and such can still happen.
1/31/2016 7:07:23 PM EDT
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My dog did not give any fu*ks, and run through it.
1/31/2016 7:08:56 PM EDT
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Got one, works great and installation wasn't hard. Some dogs learn the fence a lot quicker than others. Expect to find your dog whimpering on the opposite side afraid to cross over a few times until he associates the boundary with the shock.

One of mine will not cross the line unless you are there to beckon him across or otherwise indicate it is ok. They do figure out it is the collar that shocks them, but they will remain pretty obedient about the line even with it off.
1/31/2016 7:09:36 PM EDT
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Got one.  Work great at keeping my dogs in, useless for keeping other dogs out so fights and such can still happen.
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That's another concern.  I'm not worried about other dogs but I'll be in northern Montana where there's a possibility of Mountain Lions, wolves, and such.  I know the little shit can outrun a bear but I'm not so sure about smaller predators.
1/31/2016 8:35:37 PM EDT
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I've have used Invisible Fence since 1999.  Works great for my lab.
1/31/2016 8:37:59 PM EDT
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Are they pricey?
1/31/2016 8:39:06 PM EDT
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Proper training is 90% of it.  You must train them  every day consistently for several weeks for it to be fully effective.
1/31/2016 8:40:10 PM EDT
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They're great for your nieces and nephews when you get asked to babysit. Keeps them safely contained and you never get asked to babysit again.
1/31/2016 8:42:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Ours works great. Range adjustments take a while. My beagle still tests his battery every morning. He runs to the warning zone, waits for the beep and turns around.  No beep and the little bastard is gone.
1/31/2016 8:44:16 PM EDT
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I do.

Works great if you already have a fenced in yard, so they can't/won't just bolt past and make it through the shock zone.

Mine is wired around 5 fenced acres and works like a charm.  Neither of my dogs has gone outside the wire since I've had it.   They're trained to the point now that they won't, even without wearing the collar, unless I'm with them.

To run the wire on the ground over a driveway, run the wire through an old garden hose first.   That will keep the tires from wearing out and breaking the wire.
1/31/2016 8:44:45 PM EDT
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And I passed up the empty kennel for two labs.  
1/31/2016 8:46:15 PM EDT
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Teach him to steal dove from the other hunters.
1/31/2016 8:47:01 PM EDT
[#22]
my sister uses one and it works great but I can't remember the name of it. The fence has been inoperational for quite some time but the dog has never figured it out.
1/31/2016 8:47:05 PM EDT
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I paid $1200 for it installed at my first house in 1999.  

I have moved twice since then.  

I remove base and install new wire at the new house.
1/31/2016 8:47:43 PM EDT
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Maybe if your dog is dumb. I laid out the surveying flags for a week or two so they would have a visual, turned the field strength up to maximum, and both of mine pretty quickly learned it after a few coaching sessions.
1/31/2016 8:49:24 PM EDT
[#25]
Brand I use is petsafe stubborn dog fence.  Wasn't too expensive.  Around 200 bucks I think.  I used slightly heavier gauge wire than the kit came with, for durability.  I think another 30 or 40 bucks in wire, maybe?

Bought another collar when I got the second dog off of ebay for 50 bucks.
1/31/2016 8:51:08 PM EDT
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The kids don't like the collars. but the technology works.
1/31/2016 8:55:28 PM EDT
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Years ago we got a test unit (prototype) that had a transmitter you plugged into a wall,socket.  Then the dog wore a shock collar.  You set a diameter and power level on the transmitter.  It worked great.  If the dog left the zone it shocked him until he returned.  Then one day the batteries died in the collar so my wife threw the entire thing in the trash cause it was a broken POS.
1/31/2016 8:59:52 PM EDT
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Wireless invisible fence user here.  Haven't had a dog get run over in 15 years. I start brainwashing them young, steering them toward the highway slowly, letting them hear the warning beep, then feel the shock.  If they don't return to safety, I pull them there with the leash.  After awhile I turn the shock level up and pull them towards the highway until they get zapped on high.  And again, and again.  



It seems cruel, but it beats getting hit by a car.  After three or four times of this, you couldn't drag my grown dogs to the highway with a tractor and a logging chain.



Never turn them out without the collar and never let the batteries go dead.  If they ever once discover they can cross the boundary, they'll start trying to defeat it.
1/31/2016 9:08:12 PM EDT
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Had a spastic wandering lab. Put him on a training collar remote operated and it was like I sent him to college for 4 years only problem was if you were not there to correct him, usually just took a sound, he was gone or out of range. I then installed a "petsafe" underground fence for stubborn dogs around 5 acres. He learned it very quick and had many good peaceful years of me not worrying about him. He's gone now and will soon be training my German sheperd to it. Cost under $300 from ebay with installing it myself. Proper training is a must and it came with a DVD. Put one at my dads place for a jack Russell and would run thru it when he was younger but at about five he didn't want to fuck with it anymore and stayed in the yard.
1/31/2016 9:10:05 PM EDT
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Get an Innotek system. Worth every dollar
1/31/2016 9:31:43 PM EDT
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Got one for our shelter dog.  Paid 1000 for it then heard you could buy them and install them yourself for $200. Dog went thru it a few times and each time the company would come out with a different collar. Last one was the one that worked.  Shocks for 6-10 seconds so even if he blows thru it, it will continue to shock.  Worked like a charm
1/31/2016 10:09:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Put one in and within 30 seconds both of my labs knew their boundaries. The beagle blew through the first time but was fine after that. I did not do any training because it all happened so fast.
1/31/2016 10:41:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Invisible Fence brand quoted me over $1200... So I dug one in myself.  Got a Petsafe brand from Petsmart.  Think it cost about $300 and has a rechargable collar.  Took me about 4 hours cutting it in with an edging blade.

You'd think my dag's getting killed if you hear her get hit.  Yelping and flipping in the air.  Most of the time she doesn't even wear her collar, getting zapped is a hell of a motivator and she respects her boundry.
1/31/2016 10:50:02 PM EDT
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I had a dog that figured out if she ran fast it only shocked her for a second while she crossed the electric fence. Dog was more work than it was worth. And the Electric fence didn't work for her.
1/31/2016 11:00:01 PM EDT
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Yes, I have one and my dog respects it. They have to be trained on it as stated above.



The newer ones can really extend that barrier and have higher levels of stimulation for the bonehead dogs.



I built a new shed and I took my dog's collar off and tried to drag him over to the shed - Nope, NOPE, NOPE!!



No way was he going willingly.

1/31/2016 11:37:24 PM EDT
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i have the wireless pet-safe collar-transmitter thing. works great with my lab. house right on state highway lab stays in yard all day. never heard anything good about the in ground systems.
1/31/2016 11:41:30 PM EDT
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fence?




1/31/2016 11:45:16 PM EDT
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My SIL had real good luck with his, Max still stays on the yard.  My BIL it worked for his GSDs, but his Dalmation figured out 2 things pretty fast.  #1, there was a track about 3 ft from the line where the dog would trot up and down.  Just close enough to semi trigger it, but not enough for a shock.  He'd just go back and forth till the buzz in the collar stopped and he knew it wouldn't work.  #2, the shock only lasts a second so if he really wanted to chase something he'd just charge it full speed and take the hit.
2/1/2016 12:12:21 AM EDT
[#39]
Had one at the last house.  Over 7 years, never crossed it while wearing their collars.  They did figure out that it was about the collar, though, and crossed once or twice while not wearing them (after baths, etc.).  Batteries in the collars were dead for the better part of the last couple of years, but the dogs never crossed while wearing them.

Took our dogs less than a day to figure it out.  Went ahead and reinforced training for a couple of weeks just to be sure. We never had to turn the collars up from the lowest setting.  The small shock was enough to work with the training to let the dogs know what was expected.  All 3 dogs are fairly smart (Aussie Shepard, Aussie/Lab mix, Aussie/Pointer mix), so YMMV there.

Works well to keep our dogs in, but, as others have pointed out, doesn't do anything for other animals/dogs.
2/1/2016 12:23:37 AM EDT
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Tried it with my Sheltie/Australian Shep mix. Didn't work at all. I installed it in an attempt to keep her in the yard I had already installed a 5ft fence around. Her drive to follow me and roam town was too strong. Even on the highest setting she would go under or over the fence. I had a buddy with three dogs that it did work with though.
2/1/2016 12:38:02 AM EDT
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Ours works great. Range adjustments take a while. My beagle still tests his battery every morning. He runs to the warning zone, waits for the beep and turns around.  No beep and the little bastard is gone.
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Mine two.  About once a month he gets to go exploring.  Fortunately he always comes back.  I'm not sure why some mornings it just doesn't work for whatever reason.  He waits until I'm gone before heading out.
2/1/2016 12:47:05 AM EDT
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Petsafe Stubborn Dog.

We have ours around just under 4A.

The key is training on the lead for a week or so, with the alarm zone on max setting. Find and discreetly mark the point at which the thing will beep and vibrate.
Approach the boundary, relaxed, and at the first beep, quickly turn the dog away, then move to another point. Remove the prongs so the pooch doesn't get zapped.

They have to learn to associate the beep and vibration, with turning back.
Once there, allow them to explore off the leash. They will find the boundary, and after 2-3 seconds of tone and vibration, the zapping starts and goes up in intensity quickly.
The wider the zone, the more time available for correction when balls out chasing a squirrel, or renegade woodchuck.

Definitely get the lightning protector. Ground strikes follow the dadgum wire right back to the outlet. We have gone though two so far...but the controller still works fine.

2/1/2016 12:49:23 AM EDT
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Australian Shepard...worked great.

Yellow Lab...not so much. He'd see something outside the fence line and go after it, with a "YELP" as he passed over it.

Then, when food was out, he'd walk back in and "YELP" again