[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Veteran Privilege (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 1/30/2016 11:31:13 PM EDT
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country.
This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? |
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Quoted: Think about some of the people you've met in the military...you want some of them to be able to carry? Course, I could say the same about some cops I've met... Hmmmm...this could get interesting. based on this post i don't want you to carry think about that for a second |
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Quoted: Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? Only for combat arms. Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. |
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Quoted: Think about some of the people you've met in the military...you want some of them to be able to carry? Course, I could say the same about some cops I've met... Hmmmm...this could get interesting. |
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? Why the fuck not for me? Everyone? How about the Citizen/Patriot Safety Act of 2016? |
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive?  It should apply to all those legally allowed to own a firearm.
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Quoted: based on this post i don't want you to carry think about that for a second Quoted: Quoted: Think about some of the people you've met in the military...you want some of them to be able to carry? Course, I could say the same about some cops I've met... Hmmmm...this could get interesting. based on this post i don't want you to carry think about that for a second In all seriousness though, Montana is a shall issue state. I've met people that have permits. I really wish they didn't. With that, I wish there were some cops that didn't have that privilege either. But like another poster here said, 2nd A rights so...guess I'd rather have the freedom than the security. Course I carry so... |
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Only for combat arms. Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. Quoted:
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? Only for combat arms. Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. Indeed! |
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Not all cops work the beat. Quoted:
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for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. not all veterans were in combat roles or in combat zone Not all cops work the beat. These were exactly the influences that led to my question. There are exceptions in both groups such that a MIL exclusion doesn't seem justified. |
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Only for combat arms. Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. Quoted:
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? Only for combat arms. Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. 
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Why does it matter if the cop was "retired" or not? Would it have to be "retired" military, or would the national guard guy that did a few years also qualify? What about the person that wanted to serve, but was turned away for a confederate tatoo?
I don't think we should carve out privileged classes of society for gun rights. |
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Only for combat arms. Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. Quoted:
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? Only for combat arms. Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. What if you were a medic in combat arms? 
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Not all cops work the beat. However much GD disputes it, police are seen as trained on weapons and the rules regarding use of deadly force. Military vets, not so much. If there's going to be further national reciprocity of carry permits it'll have to hinge on some verified good guy status and training that all states agree on, not past career fields. |
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? Only for combat arms. What if you were a medic in combat arms? 
Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. Combat Arms?.....lots of pogs in combat arms.....how about only combat decorated soldiers.... 
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However much GD disputes it, police are seen as trained on weapons and the rules regarding use of deadly force. Military vets, not so much. If there's going to be further national reciprocity of carry permits it'll have to hinge on some verified good guy status and training that all states agree on, not past career fields. Quoted:
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Not all cops work the beat. However much GD disputes it, police are seen as trained on weapons and the rules regarding use of deadly force. Military vets, not so much. If there's going to be further national reciprocity of carry permits it'll have to hinge on some verified good guy status and training that all states agree on, not past career fields. Highlighted for reasons. 
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make it legal for everyone to carry, problem solved Such a hard idea. The antis chip away so why can't our side chip away? We can wish all day long but we would be better suited to play their game right back at them. Make carry so common that we get a majority of the states with consitutional carry over time. How do we do that? Make sure we get more people to carry and prove the antis wrong that guns are not the boogy man they preach. |
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Combat Arms?.....lots of pogs in combat arms.....how about only combat decorated soldiers....
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? Only for combat arms. What if you were a medic in combat arms?
Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. Combat Arms?.....lots of pogs in combat arms.....how about only combat decorated soldiers....
Like if you flew drones from NM? |
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Quoted: Uh. 3/5th of the census population was not as special as the 1/1 in their time. Quoted: Quoted: Did the founding fathers want a nation where some people are more special than others or did they want a nation where everyone was equal? Uh. 3/5th of the census population was not as special as the 1/1 in their time. |
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Why does it matter if the cop was "retired" or not? Would it have to be "retired" military, or would the national guard guy that did a few years also qualify? What about the person that wanted to serve, but was turned away for a confederate tatoo? I don't think we should carve out privileged classes of society for gun rights. A confederate tattoo displays "questionable" judgement. Since you are stuck in the past, you can only carry an 1853 Enfield. |
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? It should apply to everyone since no citizens are more important than any others, and if someone thinks vets or LEOs are more equal than anyone else they should jump in a dumpster and light themselves on fire. |
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Combat Arms?.....lots of pogs in combat arms.....how about only combat decorated soldiers....
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Retired LEO can legally carry in all 50 states under the 2004 LEO Safety Act. Why doesn't something similar exist for service veterans? Would seem to be a reasonable perk for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. This is not LEO vs Mil. Rather, this is an exercise in the similarities and how a law could/should apply to both. What say the hive? Only for combat arms. What if you were a medic in combat arms?
Because, let's face it, if you weren't combat arms, you weren't really a soldier. Combat Arms?.....lots of pogs in combat arms.....how about only combat decorated soldiers....
Like everyone with a Bronze Star? |
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Think about some of the people you've met in the military...you want some of them to be able to carry? That pretty much sums it up 
Have you heard about the lapd cops who shot the shit out of the newspaper ladies? Smh Txl |
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for those who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for the country. not all veterans were in combat roles or in combat zone AFAIK truck drivers took more casualties than combat arms, might be wrong. |