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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:25:03 PM EDT
A member here was adamant about not storing propane tanks in your attached garage or any attached/enclosed area. I'm all for safety, you know never bring sources of fire or explosion into the house. But right now I've got 10 mini camping tanks and 3 20LB tanks in there.
Oh and along with assorted big boy fireworks. The pool chemicals muratic acid and calcium hypochlorite are well away from each other though. Those get mixed and you've got bad exothermic mojo. 
So my question is this a really bad idea? If it's not safe I'll store the propane outside somewhere. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:38:09 PM EDT
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We had a fire December 31st 2005.
When the propane tanks let go, the flame reached 40 feet in the air. They now are stored in the mower shed. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:40:12 PM EDT
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It's impressive as heck when you roll up to a call and there is a burning propane tank playing a jet of flame against the inside wall of an open garage.
Outside is best. Cool fire training video. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V_PndCH0U0 |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:42:01 PM EDT
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No problem unless you have a fire.
PS: That chlorine will rust every steel item in your garage. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:42:40 PM EDT
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I store a couple full 20 lb propane tanks and at least one full 5 gallon gas can in my heated detached garage every day of the year. Where else would I store them?
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:45:04 PM EDT
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No problem unless you have a fire. PS: That chlorine will rust every steel item in your garage. This is a fact. I made the mistake of storing some chlorine pool pellets in a closet with some aerosol cans and the cans corroded until they expelled their contents. Bad stuff. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:45:49 PM EDT
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Not if that's where you keep your hot Barista's chained up....
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:45:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:47:28 PM EDT
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I have a 500 gallon tank about 15 feet behind my house, looks like a bomb...figure if I ever have a fire that is what it will become.
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:50:25 PM EDT
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This is a fact. I made the mistake of storing some chlorine pool pellets in a closet with some aerosol cans and the cans corroded until they expelled their contents. Bad stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No problem unless you have a fire. PS: That chlorine will rust every steel item in your garage. This is a fact. I made the mistake of storing some chlorine pool pellets in a closet with some aerosol cans and the cans corroded until they expelled their contents. Bad stuff. Maybe I should inventory my garage. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 9:58:41 PM EDT
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A member here was adamant about not storing propane tanks in your attached garage or any attached/enclosed area. I'm all for safety, you know never bring sources of fire or explosion into the house. But right now I've got 10 mini camping tanks and 3 20LB tanks in there. Oh and along with assorted big boy fireworks. The pool chemicals muratic acid and calcium hypochlorite are well away from each other though. Those get mixed and you've got bad exothermic mojo.
So my question is this a really bad idea? If it's not safe I'll store the propane outside somewhere. When I was a kid a house in my neighborhood blew up. They were avid balloonist and stored their propane in the garage. One tank leaked and it eventually made it to the pilot light on the water heater. It picked the whole house up off the foundation, moved it over about 3' and put it back down in many pieces. It is a miracle no one was hurt. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:05:02 PM EDT
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Firefighter here. Google BLEVE.
Do not store them in your garage. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFuck. I remember that thread. Duly noted. Question answered. No. Do not in anyway store LP in you house or attached garage. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:07:26 PM EDT
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Firefighter here. Google BLEVE. Do not store them in your garage. Thank you fireman. That's what I was looking for. If a fireman says don't do it then that's enough for me. Safety first. For me and you as well. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:13:09 PM EDT
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This is a fact. I made the mistake of storing some chlorine pool pellets in a closet with some aerosol cans and the cans corroded until they expelled their contents. Bad stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No problem unless you have a fire. PS: That chlorine will rust every steel item in your garage. This is a fact. I made the mistake of storing some chlorine pool pellets in a closet with some aerosol cans and the cans corroded until they expelled their contents. Bad stuff. I read left over lawn/garden fertilizer will oxidize and damage metal. I generally lay it on too heavy. No rust, no grass. 
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:18:13 PM EDT
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we've been kicking around the idea building a small, vented outdoor bunker for flammables like LPG, lamp oil, and BP.
my main concern is keeping the weather out, but not creating a tamping enclosure. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:21:07 PM EDT
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Firefighter here. Google BLEVE. Do not store them in your garage. Why do you store a propane tank if you have no place detached from your residence? (not being an a-hole, just wondering) |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:21:29 PM EDT
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we've been kicking around the idea building a small, vented outdoor bunker for flammables like LPG, lamp oil, and BP. my main concern is keeping the weather out, but not creating a tamping enclosure. I have a nice snug dog house. I could move the propane and gas out there. It's blocked up off a concrete pad with a sliding door. Of course, the smokeless powder in the house would send me into low earth orbit.
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:22:42 PM EDT
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Store it with your glocks, perhaps the explosions will cancel each other out.
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:29:35 PM EDT
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I keep them under my deck.
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:35:21 PM EDT
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Store it with your glocks, perhaps the explosions will cancel each other out. Well if a fire started in my garage it would be very bad. I'd like to remove the bad if I can. Gasoline, propane, fireworks/powder, HCl/CaCL. If a fireman says don't do it then I will listen to him. They're the experts. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:36:29 PM EDT
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Store it with your glocks, perhaps the explosions will cancel each other out. Physics fail, constructive vs. destructive interference. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 10:53:48 PM EDT
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Well dang. Guess I need to move them then.
What's the opinion on storing liquid fuels; like maybe up to 20 gallons of gas for yard equipment (my fuel is in either metal safety cans or plastic cans modified to be non-CARB complaint, but still seal). |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 11:02:59 PM EDT
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What about an empty propane tank? How much residual explosive gas is left?
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Posted: 1/12/2016 11:09:00 PM EDT
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Well dang. Guess I need to move them then. What's the opinion on storing liquid fuels; like maybe up to 20 gallons of gas for yard equipment (my fuel is in either metal safety cans or plastic cans modified to be non-CARB complaint, but still seal). Just gas is very different than LP. I'm trying to be safe. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 11:13:49 PM EDT
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His name was Spidey07
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Posted: 1/12/2016 11:45:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryTanks are going out tommorow! I hope everyone has healed well! |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 11:47:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's when I learned about bleve. That event. I'm going to really go thru my garage. Fuck even a 3 inch flame would would make me evacuate the family RFN. |
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Posted: 1/12/2016 11:57:50 PM EDT
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That's when I learned about bleve. That event. I'm going to really go thru my garage. Fuck even a 3 inch flame would would make me evacuate the family RFN. Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's when I learned about bleve. That event. I'm going to really go thru my garage. Fuck even a 3 inch flame would would make me evacuate the family RFN. No kidding....this just got on my to do list and moved right up to the top. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:03:46 AM EDT
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Had a 20 gal leak one time in the garage. Somehow the door going into the house cracked open the same night setting of the alarm so it was noticed. Not sure if anything in the house would have sparked it or if the garage door opener would have done it but thankful the alarm went off. Still store it in the garage
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:06:53 AM EDT
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Why do you store a propane tank if you have no place detached from your residence? (not being an a-hole, just wondering) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Firefighter here. Google BLEVE. Do not store them in your garage. Why do you store a propane tank if you have no place detached from your residence? (not being an a-hole, just wondering) I store mine up against the back fence in the back yard. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:07:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryDont know how I missed your original thread.... Very glad to hear you and your children are alive and survived that horrific experience. As a father of 3 little girls I cannot imagine the pain and anguish you felt seeing your children hurt like that. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:08:13 AM EDT
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We had a fire December 31st 2005. When the propane tanks let go, the flame reached 40 feet in the air. They now are stored in the mower shed. +1 I had a shed built just for all the flammable fluids and gases. I also didn't get it wired for electricity on purpose to avoid an electrical fire. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:08:14 AM EDT
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What about an empty propane tank? How much residual explosive gas is left? It's never really quite empty! 
During inspections, unless the valve body is removed, we do not consider them empty. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:12:04 AM EDT
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Not if that's where you keep your hot Barista's chained up.... Too soon |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:15:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat guy is a fucking hero. Still get teary eyed reading that thread. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:24:07 AM EDT
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I'm sure stored propane tanks are a serious problem in a burning garage.
Along with two cars with nearly full tanks. 5-15 gal of gas in metal cans. Numerous cans of aerosol paints, lubes, cleaners, etc. Two snowmobiles, lawn mower, snowblower, leaf blower, chainsaw and a weedwhip, all full tanks. I won't even start on the reloading components stacked up. We need to live in bubbles................ |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:27:24 AM EDT
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I'm sure stored propane tanks are a serious problem in a burning garage. Along with two cars with nearly full tanks. 5-15 gal of gas in metal cans. Numerous cans of aerosol paints, lubes, cleaners, etc. Two snowmobiles, lawn mower, snowblower, leaf blower, chainsaw and a weedwhip, all full tanks. I won't even start on the reloading components stacked up. We need to live in bubbles................ This! |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:44:49 AM EDT
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I'm sure stored propane tanks are a serious problem in a burning garage. Along with two cars with nearly full tanks. 5-15 gal of gas in metal cans. Numerous cans of aerosol paints, lubes, cleaners, etc. Two snowmobiles, lawn mower, snowblower, leaf blower, chainsaw and a weedwhip, all full tanks. I won't even start on the reloading components stacked up. We need to live in bubbles................ What I came to post. I bet more people die in car accidents then home fire but no one is saying quit driving or riding in cars. Life - guaranteed to die the second you are born. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 8:19:00 AM EDT
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No. You should store them in the basement. Much safer.
Also, you should crack oven the valve(s) a very small amount, to avoid having the tank burst from building up too much pressure inside. Most people fail to observe this very simple safety precaution. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 8:23:04 AM EDT
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Mine stay in the shed 25 ft from the house.
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Posted: 1/13/2016 8:33:19 AM EDT
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No. You should store them in the basement. Much safer. Also, you should crack oven the valve(s) a very small amount, to avoid having the tank burst from building up too much pressure inside. Most people fail to observe this very simple safety precaution. Hopefully no one believes your stupid post. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 10:20:27 AM EDT
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Garage is filled with enough Hazmat as it is, mostly small quantities.
Gasoline, spare propane tanks stored away from house and garage. Main tank (1k) is buried. It's not "living in a bubble" to take easy, reasonable precautions. And check your fire extinguishers while you're thinking about all this. You do have extinguishers right?
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Posted: 1/13/2016 10:28:19 AM EDT
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Thank you fireman. That's what I was looking for. If a fireman says don't do it then that's enough for me. Safety first. For me and you as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Firefighter here. Google BLEVE. Do not store them in your garage. Thank you fireman. That's what I was looking for. If a fireman says don't do it then that's enough for me. Safety first. For me and you as well. I am a Fireman as well. I store mine in my garage I shut the valve off and hope that I do not have a fire. My mower shed has $100k plus of equipment stored inside so I would worry about storing them in there.
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