Posted: 1/10/2016 11:16:00 AM EDT
| Why is it an issue? I have an XDm and really, I never notice it. |
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It's not an issue for me. I have always shot 1911s and the grip safety is invisible to me. Quoted:
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Why is it an issue? I have an XDm and really, I never notice it. It's not an issue for me. I have always shot 1911s and the grip safety is invisible to me. Back in the days BG (Before Glock), the HSLD Secret Squirrel types rockin' 1911s felt it might not always get depressed in an emergency/with a less-than-optimum grip. So they drilled & pinned the grip safety in place. 
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The Croatian Sensation. A $250 gun until SA started importing them.  Quoted:
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Unnecessary added complexity. Even if they didn't have the grip safety, they're still bubba blasters.  The Croatian Sensation. A $250 gun until SA started importing them. $219 shipped, I have an HS2000 
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Never had an issue on my XD or my 1911s. Like the idea of not being able to accidentally get the trigger depressed on something and have an ND. Are all you haters Glock Fanboys? 
Who spend 250 on a better AR trigger, but deny it means anything in a handgun. |
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Quoted: $219 shipped, I have an HS2000 Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Unnecessary added complexity. Even if they didn't have the grip safety, they're still bubba blasters. The Croatian Sensation. A $250 gun until SA started importing them. $219 shipped, I have an HS2000 How long ago? |
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The Croatian Sensation. A $250 gun until SA started importing them. Quoted:
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Unnecessary added complexity. Even if they didn't have the grip safety, they're still bubba blasters. The Croatian Sensation. A $250 gun until SA started importing them. Yep when they were labeled as H2000 they were a decent value, now they are priced with the top tire guns. |
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Quoted: Yep when they were labeled as H2000 they were a decent value, now they are priced with the top tire guns. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Unnecessary added complexity. Even if they didn't have the grip safety, they're still bubba blasters. The Croatian Sensation. A $250 gun until SA started importing them. Yep when they were labeled as H2000 they were a decent value, now they are priced with the top tire guns. The XDm is a completely different gun than the HS2000. My XDm was a dream to shoot. Very accurate and the trigger was 10x better than every Glock I've ever shot. |
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The XDm is a completely different gun than the HS2000. My XDm was a dream to shoot. Very accurate and the trigger was 10x better than every Glock I've ever shot. Quoted:
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Unnecessary added complexity. Even if they didn't have the grip safety, they're still bubba blasters. The Croatian Sensation. A $250 gun until SA started importing them. Yep when they were labeled as H2000 they were a decent value, now they are priced with the top tire guns. The XDm is a completely different gun than the HS2000. My XDm was a dream to shoot. Very accurate and the trigger was 10x better than every Glock I've ever shot. OK 
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There's a great, long thread from the past about an abduction robbery. Our hero and his friends were accosted and taken at gunpoint. Eventually theres a shootout. Good guy lands shot(s) on bad guy but was unable, at some point, to shoot. I believe he stated his shooting thumb got hit disabling his ability to activate the grip safety and fire subsequent shots.
Although getting struck by lightning while being attacked by a shark may be more likely...something to consider. ETA: here it is I looked down and saw how bad my hands were as I cleared the round out, and stood back up to continue fire. (Looking back on it, I think I realized that I wasn't getting a good grip due to the screwed up hand and neglected to engage the grip safety |
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The XDm is a completely different gun than the HS2000. My XDm was a dream to shoot. Very accurate and the trigger was 10x better than every Glock I've ever shot. Quoted:
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Unnecessary added complexity. Even if they didn't have the grip safety, they're still bubba blasters. The Croatian Sensation. A $250 gun until SA started importing them. Yep when they were labeled as H2000 they were a decent value, now they are priced with the top tire guns. The XDm is a completely different gun than the HS2000. My XDm was a dream to shoot. Very accurate and the trigger was 10x better than every Glock I've ever shot. Yup! While I till like Glocks and think they are fantastic firearms. I sold my 23 and now have nothing by SA. |
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If the grip safety is truly unnecessary, and people hate it so much, why doesn't someone offer a kit to get rid of it? Doesn't seem like it would be that hard to replace the safety with a flush mount piece of metal and keep the innards in a permanently disabled position. Or, just pin it in the "depressed" position. I think the fact that you don't see this kit for sale, and you don't see many people (anyone?) pinning the safety down shows that this is pretty much a non-issue among people that actually own XD pistols.
I like the grip safety for one reason only: reholstering the gun. You can take your hand off the safety while holstering and push down either on the slide or the bottom of the grip to holster the weapon. That way even if there were a piece of clothing or something that got in the trigger guard while you are holstering the gun it won't go off. But maybe I should design the "XD Grip Safety Removal Kit" and sell it. Not sure it would make me much money. |
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If the grip safety is truly unnecessary, and people hate it so much, why doesn't someone offer a kit to get rid of it? Doesn't seem like it would be that hard to replace the safety with a flush mount piece of metal and keep the innards in a permanently disabled position. Or, just pin it in the "depressed" position. I think the fact that you don't see this kit for sale, and you don't see many people (anyone?) pinning the safety down shows that this is pretty much a non-issue among people that actually own XD pistols. I like the grip safety for one reason only: reholstering the gun. You can take your hand off the safety while holstering and push down either on the slide or the bottom of the grip to holster the weapon. That way even if there were a piece of clothing or something that got in the trigger guard while you are holstering the gun it won't go off. But maybe I should design the "XD Grip Safety Removal Kit" and sell it. Not sure it would make me much money. Probably because people who don't like the grip safety won't buy the gun in the first place. People who do buy them want or don't care about the grip safety. |
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I like safeties. My ideal handgun would be either an XDm with an additional manual safety, or an M&P with manual safety and an additional grip safety. I have a Ruger MkII .22/.45 and it is a single action with a manual safety located where the safety is on a 1911 (and similarly the M&P Shield). Playing around with a shot timer, flicking off the manual safety doesn't seem to add any time to my draw and fire. I have had 2 XD pistols at one time or another, and neither of them has ever failed to fire or jam. One of them I used in some informal matches so it was run fast under match conditions and it worked flawlessly. My only gripe with the XD is there aren't readily available, reliable 30rd stick mags for them. |
| Not for a standard field strip. Lock slide back, push takedown lever up, release slide and pull it off the frame (on XDM). On the XDS you have to pull the trigger. Now it might add complications if you are going to strip the entire lower down but I haven't done that on my pistols. |
