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Posted: 11/3/2015 7:22:17 AM EDT


http://www.bluesheepdog.com/2015/10/19/f-b-i-selects-new-duty-pistol/

Link Posted: 11/2/2015 5:20:47 PM EDT
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Have you shot a 320? It has a better trigger and feel over the Glock.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 5:22:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Is this a prediction or a statement of fact? Can you attach the article or news release.

Link Posted: 11/2/2015 5:26:06 PM EDT
[#3]
How could they not!?!

Link Posted: 11/2/2015 5:27:33 PM EDT
[#4]
They want the best
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 6:08:32 PM EDT
[#5]
The requirements describe the Sig but its still gotta pass the testing.  Good for Sig if they can do it. They were not going to be able to sell $900 classic models forever.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 6:34:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Lets support a gun company that hates America.  Sounds about right.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 6:36:04 PM EDT
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HK?
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 6:42:09 PM EDT
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I love that new sig 320 feels great in the hands I  wanted to buy one,  but I'm just to hell bent on my glocks... LOL, and really didn't want to learn a new trigger and then have to buy more and more holsters. Y'all know how that goes one leads to a box full of them... So I'll just keep my glocks..
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 6:43:59 PM EDT
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I agree.  They should dump Glock.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 6:53:37 PM EDT
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A couple of months ago I was laughed at when I said the FBI would end up with the P320.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 7:02:33 PM EDT
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Yeah, well, they're going with Speer Gold Dot G2, too, so...
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 7:03:59 PM EDT
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I do not see the big deal with this.  Good for Sig maybe this will drive Glock to finally step outside of the box...... Make a 9mm with a rounded nose slide, front cocking serrations, paddle mag release, interchangeable front strap would be better than back, or really just something different.
I get this is the Glock forum but it is not like the FBI bought a bad pistol or that the Sig does something the Glock does not or vise versa.  I imagine this may stem from Sig offered best price or it was politics.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 7:41:28 PM EDT
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You made a statement, so back it up. Show proof that Sig hates the USA.



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 7:51:35 PM EDT
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The 320s seem decent enough.  They certainly have a better feel (even though I don't actually like the trigger all that much) than Glocks do.  And although they don't have the track-record that Glocks currently have (particularly Gen3 models), this deal would give us a large sample size to judge reliability/durability.  

Also.............
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Link Posted: 11/2/2015 8:00:32 PM EDT
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They stopped sales in America after some stupid sales thing. I don't have the specifics right now.

Glock makes a lot of their guns here.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 8:00:57 PM EDT
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Woo hop.

More used glocks  for me to get.

Txl
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 8:07:00 PM EDT
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They stopped sales in America after some stupid sales thing. I don't have the specifics right now.

Glock makes a lot of their guns here.


Teeners gonna teen.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 8:08:53 PM EDT
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Sig produces almost ALL of their guns, both pistols and rifles, right in New Hampshire.  The lack of any German made guns (like the Sig Mastershop ones) is purely a result of the German government restricting exports due to a sale of Sig's to a South American country.  Columbia I believe.  


Sig has been producing handguns in NH for the US market LONG before Glock started making pistols here.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 8:14:09 PM EDT
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I guess I never gave the 320 a chance after Sigs prior attempts at polymer framed guns. They were so bad I wrote off the brand.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 8:40:47 PM EDT
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They stopped sales in America after some stupid sales thing. I don't have the specifics right now.



Glock makes a lot of their guns here.
Was it this?



<header class="entry-header">

Major
US Gun Manufacturer Halts Sales to New York Law Enforcement in Protest
to Recent Gun Control Laws …Update: More Companies Join Boycott


Jim Hoft Feb 15th, 2013 8:43 am 34 Comments

</header>
Olympic Arms,
a top American gun manufacturer known for its AR15s, recently announced
that, because of the political climate in New York state, the company
would not sell its firearms to state law enforcement until the new gun
laws are repealed.

Guns.com reported:

Firearm
manufacturer Olympic Arms announced that they will no longer sell to
New York law enforcement in protest of the gun control laws recently
passed there.






http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/major-us-gun-manufacturer-halts-sales-to-new-york-law-enforcement-in-protest-to-recent-gun-control-laws/



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 8:48:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/2/2015 8:51:26 PM EDT
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Is this a bandwagon we need to jump on before it gets popular?
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 9:21:11 PM EDT
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Get them on the government tit then they'll be less likely in the future to stir the shit with things like the sig brace or large muzzle brakes.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 9:32:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/2/2015 10:22:05 PM EDT
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More used glocks  for me to get.

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Same here. I don't care if HRT and CAG goes with P320's I'll stick with what works for me.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 10:24:48 PM EDT
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Up to $8000 per handgun
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 11:13:45 PM EDT
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I've read the entire FBI document. A Glock with no finger grooves and a slightly enlarged magazine floorplate meets the requirements.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 11:21:22 PM EDT
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They stopped sales in America after some stupid sales thing. I don't have the specifics right now.

Glock makes a lot of their guns here.


???

ALL SIG Firearms are made in the USA.  The only models that weren't were Custom Shop guns, which are no longer being imported anyway.  So, all classic guns, P320, ARs, MPX/MCX, etc are made in the USA.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 11:58:37 PM EDT
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And yet, regardless of what the FBI uses, it will only be as good as the training they give the agents... Another Pistol is not going  to prevent another Miami Shoot out...

The reoccurring theme with ALL of our Government agencies...They spend loads of Tax dollars to buy and field new toys to out fit there agencies with, yet they still provide mediocre training.. (Are you hearing me U.S.ARMY???)
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 12:06:52 AM EDT
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This is not a done deal folks.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 12:52:22 AM EDT
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Quit killin my dream bro
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 12:56:26 AM EDT
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Serious questions.

Who gives a shit if the FBI doesn't use a Glock?

Is that somehow a personal insult to Glock owners?
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 1:56:21 AM EDT
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The 320's trigger reset sucks, you basically have to let it go all the way back to the resting position. DannerTrax
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 2:38:19 AM EDT
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well its time to wait and see
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 6:25:34 AM EDT
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I've read the entire FBI document. A Glock with no finger grooves and a slightly enlarged magazine floorplate meets the requirements.
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I've read the entire FBI document. A Glock with no finger grooves and a slightly enlarged magazine floorplate meets the requirements.


My read as well. The gen4 could stay the exact same as now except removing the finger grooves from the mold to provide a flat front strap, and an altered mag baseplate.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 6:35:41 AM EDT
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And yet, regardless of what the FBI uses, it will only be as good as the training they give the agents... Another Pistol is not going  to prevent another Miami Shoot out...

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I used to shoot 3 times a week, 500rnds a day for pistol training for several months straight, now I qualify 4x a year with pistol/shotgun, and 2x a year with the M4.

Pistol shotgun qual is 8hrs, rifle is 4hrs.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 7:16:42 AM EDT
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Serious questions.



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Come on, whatever they choose, it validates the fans of that brand.




Firearms validation by the big boys is a BIG deal.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 7:21:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2015 7:36:24 AM EDT
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These threads are stupid.   If you're trained you could use a Glock, a Sig, a Beretta, a CZ, a whatever and you're gonna hit shit and its gonna work well.  Its a damn pistol not a fighter jet, who gives a shit.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:20:21 AM EDT
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Lol that's funny
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:34:57 AM EDT
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Sig produces almost ALL of their guns, both pistols and rifles, right in New Hampshire.  The lack of any German made guns (like the Sig Mastershop ones) is purely a result of the German government restricting exports due to a sale of Sig's to a South American country.  Columbia I believe.  


Sig has been producing handguns in NH for the US market LONG before Glock started making pistols here.
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Sig produces almost ALL of their guns, both pistols and rifles, right in New Hampshire.  The lack of any German made guns (like the Sig Mastershop ones) is purely a result of the German government restricting exports due to a sale of Sig's to a South American country.  Columbia I believe.  


Sig has been producing handguns in NH for the US market LONG before Glock started making pistols here.


Finally an educated reply. Thanks mbincky. Too many opinionated people spewing misinformation on forums likes these. SIG hates USA Jesus fucking christ on a blue fucking pogo stick. Where do people come up with this shit.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:36:25 AM EDT
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SP2022/SIG pro much? Yeah the P250 was a flop but every gun company has made a flop. It also led to the P320 so WIN.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:43:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:44:45 AM EDT
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I love shooting my P320c, I keep saying that it is everything that people want glock to be. Take a serious look at it and I doubt you will be disappointed.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:47:21 AM EDT
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This.  But too many people have the feels.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:47:25 AM EDT
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I love Sigs but that 320 feels odd and clunky.  It's one of the few Sig models that I would never buy.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:50:52 AM EDT
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Reading about the 320, they sound great and I really wanted to like them.

But they are FUGLY.  

And while changing calibers is sorta neat, I don't have any use for it.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:51:24 AM EDT
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This is not the case with either of my 320s.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:53:35 AM EDT
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I used to shoot 3 times a week, 500rnds a day for pistol training for several months straight, now I qualify 4x a year with pistol/shotgun, and 2x a year with the M4.

Pistol shotgun qual is 8hrs, rifle is 4hrs.
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And yet, regardless of what the FBI uses, it will only be as good as the training they give the agents... Another Pistol is not going  to prevent another Miami Shoot out...

The reoccurring theme with ALL of our Government agencies...They spend loads of Tax dollars to buy and field new toys to out fit there agencies with, yet they still provide mediocre training.. (Are you hearing me U.S.ARMY???)




I used to shoot 3 times a week, 500rnds a day for pistol training for several months straight, now I qualify 4x a year with pistol/shotgun, and 2x a year with the M4.

Pistol shotgun qual is 8hrs, rifle is 4hrs.



That's not your normal soldier or normal agent training.
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