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Posted: 10/31/2015 8:57:31 PM EDT
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This thread has reached the point where Old Economy Steve appears..
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Posted: 10/31/2015 9:07:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2015 9:09:35 PM EDT
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Well if you're under 18 the only job you pretty much can legally get is in retail. Safely laws and such.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 9:11:58 PM EDT
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Yep, and the natural order of things here. If we go to war with China at some point though, do you really thing all the Target cashiers, Star Bucks flunkies are going to step up and fire a rifle in anger against them? lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How could anyone make enough money working retail? They cant. In High School I worked in retail and I made $7.95 an hour. Top it off I was limited to 25-30 hours a week. In college I took a business economics and labor course, the professor told us all a tale about her native Europe. Manufacturing had all but disappeared except for heavy industry like automobiles, aircraft and defense. Something like 65% of Europeans work in service, the balance are white collar management and government. With that amount of people slinging coffee, beer and iphones, they get together and vote in leftists to raise their pay, and provide benefits. This is the natural progression of highly developed nations.  Yep, and the natural order of things here. If we go to war with China at some point though, do you really thing all the Target cashiers, Star Bucks flunkies are going to step up and fire a rifle in anger against them? lol Funny how it's been this shitbag generation doing exactly that for over a decade. 
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and the gaggle of gutless boomers cover their ears, la la la I never served, but did you really just call all the Vietnam vets that were 'drafted' gutless? Wait, wait wait. You never served, but you're shit talking about millennial that "won't ever pick up a rifle?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That's fucking amazing. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 9:13:02 PM EDT
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How could anyone make enough money working retail? I manage a national drug store, make 75k. Its not uber great but enough for me. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 9:39:03 PM EDT
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I manage a national drug store, make 75k. Its not uber great but enough for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How could anyone make enough money working retail? I manage a national drug store, make 75k. Its not uber great but enough for me. That's some nice coin for a store manager. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 9:54:15 PM EDT
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Due to rising costs overseas, manufacturing is making a huge comeback and is only hampered by a lack of skilled workers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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in the late 90's my teachers in high school said that the only jobs left in the US would be in the service and retail industry. the only manufacturing that really happens in the US is large stuff and stuff that has to be custom fabricated. Due to rising costs overseas, manufacturing is making a huge comeback and is only hampered by a lack of skilled workers. Come on down to Corpus Christi. Steel is making a huge comeback. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:10:05 PM EDT
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I manage a national drug store, make 75k. Its not uber great but enough for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How could anyone make enough money working retail? I manage a national drug store, make 75k. Its not uber great but enough for me. This. Hell we have some stores making 12M+, those SMs bank. Not to mention the 5 (minimum) weeks vacation a year, bonuses and small fringe benefits. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:14:02 PM EDT
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Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are millenials and look how fucked up they are. Boehner, Ryan, Obama, Holder, etc, etc. All millenials. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok, and I guess boomers are completely innocent in this whole mess we are in. 
And yes, I know there are plenty of worthless mouth breathers in my generation. (late 20's) Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are millenials and look how fucked up they are. Boehner, Ryan, Obama, Holder, etc, etc. All millenials. No... Millennials are generation Y which usually refers to those born between the late 1970s-2000s |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:15:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:30:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:31:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:32:50 PM EDT
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And particularly telling of the state of this economy:
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:40:58 PM EDT
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No... Millennials are generation Y which usually refers to those born between the late 1970s-2000s Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok, and I guess boomers are completely innocent in this whole mess we are in.
And yes, I know there are plenty of worthless mouth breathers in my generation. (late 20's) Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are millenials and look how fucked up they are. Boehner, Ryan, Obama, Holder, etc, etc. All millenials. No... Millennials are generation Y which usually refers to those born between the late 1970s-2000s Well that just doesn't make sense, they have essentially no political power so how are they screwing up the country? Something isn't adding up. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:42:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:43:21 PM EDT
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Well that just doesn't make sense, they have essentially no political power so how are they screwing up the country? Something isn't adding up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok, and I guess boomers are completely innocent in this whole mess we are in.
And yes, I know there are plenty of worthless mouth breathers in my generation. (late 20's) Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are millenials and look how fucked up they are. Boehner, Ryan, Obama, Holder, etc, etc. All millenials. No... Millennials are generation Y which usually refers to those born between the late 1970s-2000s Well that just doesn't make sense, they have essentially no political power so how are they screwing up the country? Something isn't adding up. And he's especially wrong because the definition of a millennial is even narrower than he claims. Millennial generally means anybody who came of adulthood in the 2000s, so we're actually talking late eighties to the present. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that just doesn't make sense, they have essentially no political power so how are they screwing up the country? Something isn't adding up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ok, and I guess boomers are completely innocent in this whole mess we are in. And yes, I know there are plenty of worthless mouth breathers in my generation. (late 20's) Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are millenials and look how fucked up they are. Boehner, Ryan, Obama, Holder, etc, etc. All millenials. No... Millennials are generation Y which usually refers to those born between the late 1970s-2000s Well that just doesn't make sense, they have essentially no political power so how are they screwing up the country? Something isn't adding up.  |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:45:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And he's especially wrong because the definition of a millennial is even narrower than he claims. Millennial generally means anybody who came of adulthood in the 2000s, so we're actually talking late eighties to the present. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:47:57 PM EDT
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And he's especially wrong because the definition of a millennial is even narrower than he claims. Millennial generally means anybody who came of adulthood in the 2000s, so we're actually talking late eighties to the present. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok, and I guess boomers are completely innocent in this whole mess we are in.
And yes, I know there are plenty of worthless mouth breathers in my generation. (late 20's) Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are millenials and look how fucked up they are. Boehner, Ryan, Obama, Holder, etc, etc. All millenials. No... Millennials are generation Y which usually refers to those born between the late 1970s-2000s Well that just doesn't make sense, they have essentially no political power so how are they screwing up the country? Something isn't adding up. And he's especially wrong because the definition of a millennial is even narrower than he claims. Millennial generally means anybody who came of adulthood in the 2000s, so we're actually talking late eighties to the present. Somehow the millennials have brainwashed their parents and grandparents into fucking up America. Does their deviance know no bounds? |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:48:35 PM EDT
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And he's especially wrong because the definition of a millennial is even narrower than he claims. Millennial generally means anybody who came of adulthood in the 2000s, so we're actually talking late eighties to the present. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok, and I guess boomers are completely innocent in this whole mess we are in.
And yes, I know there are plenty of worthless mouth breathers in my generation. (late 20's) Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are millenials and look how fucked up they are. Boehner, Ryan, Obama, Holder, etc, etc. All millenials. No... Millennials are generation Y which usually refers to those born between the late 1970s-2000s Well that just doesn't make sense, they have essentially no political power so how are they screwing up the country? Something isn't adding up. And he's especially wrong because the definition of a millennial is even narrower than he claims. Millennial generally means anybody who came of adulthood in the 2000s, so we're actually talking late eighties to the present. There isn't a specific date. There seems to be different opinions on when each generation starts. Its been attributed to those born between the dates I mentioned. Why am I even arguing something so trivial.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 10:52:32 PM EDT
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There isn't a specific date. There seems to be different opinions on when each generation starts. Its been attributed to those born between the dates I mentioned. Why am I even arguing something so trivial.
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Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are millenials and look how fucked up they are. Boehner, Ryan, Obama, Holder, etc, etc. All millenials. No... Millennials are generation Y which usually refers to those born between the late 1970s-2000s Well that just doesn't make sense, they have essentially no political power so how are they screwing up the country? Something isn't adding up. And he's especially wrong because the definition of a millennial is even narrower than he claims. Millennial generally means anybody who came of adulthood in the 2000s, so we're actually talking late eighties to the present. There isn't a specific date. There seems to be different opinions on when each generation starts. Its been attributed to those born between the dates I mentioned. Why am I even arguing something so trivial.
http://www.livescience.com/38061-millennials-generation-y.html My error was deliberate, a rhetorical device, the age of millenials isn't really in dispute. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:01:27 PM EDT
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Oh look, this again.
A lot of us busted ass for this country in some really shitty places and continue to work hard to have a decent life today. Not really my fault the boomers raised a bunch of fucking retards while simultaneously voting in a bunch of fucking retards to political office. The generalities used to describe millenials in this thread by the OP are just as fucking retarded as the dipshits his generation elected to help ruin the country. I guess some of us will try to fix this, while the whiny boomers sit back, whine, and shift blame..... or is that a stupid, unfair generalization of an entire generation? |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:07:26 PM EDT
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If we go to war with China at some point though, do you really thing all the Target cashiers, Star Bucks flunkies are going to step up and fire a rifle in anger against them? lol I don't know, it seems like a lot of them fired a rifle in anger at Iraqis and Afghans, etc. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:24:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You kids thinking how awesome google, various Silicon Valley high tech firms are and the new economic model. Go try to land a job with them, lol. Tats and ear gauges don't land an automatic job with them, you still have to have some skills to bring to the table. Hanging out with friends smoking a fattie and showing off the latest tat after a grueling 7 hr shift at Best Buy isn't going to cut it. I did, and could easily go to another firm. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:40:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:49:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:50:03 PM EDT
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Meh. I work for a biotech company. 20% of the scientists in my lab are evil Millenials. ETA: I worked retail while I was in college. I wonder if old folks looked down on me as one of the "retail generation." As "smart" as you may be, you don't get it. Let me help you out: 
Are you still working retail? Are you? Well? No? THEN THIS THREAD DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:53:18 PM EDT
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It's not their fault they have been lied to their entire lives. They need to be educated. One day they are going to wake up from this disillusioned slumber, and they are going to be mad as hell. We all went through it. They're just doing it much more gradually, and at a greater age. By and large. I hate painting with broad brushes. This blame game seems to be relatively new, though. When I was young, "this sucks", seems to have evolved into "who's fault is this, who can I blame?" |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:54:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As "smart" as you may be, you don't get it. Let me help you out: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g2Q0cyJSs04/hqdefault.jpg Are you still working retail? Are you? Well? No? THEN THIS THREAD DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meh. I work for a biotech company. 20% of the scientists in my lab are evil Millenials. ETA: I worked retail while I was in college. I wonder if old folks looked down on me as one of the "retail generation." As "smart" as you may be, you don't get it. Let me help you out: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g2Q0cyJSs04/hqdefault.jpg Are you still working retail? Are you? Well? No? THEN THIS THREAD DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. The only guy I know right now that is working retail is a NG infantryman that just returned from Afghanistan. I'll go tell him he's a lazy do nothing faggot for OP. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:57:56 PM EDT
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As "smart" as you may be, you don't get it. Let me help you out: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g2Q0cyJSs04/hqdefault.jpg Are you still working retail? Are you? Well? No? THEN THIS THREAD DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh. I work for a biotech company. 20% of the scientists in my lab are evil Millenials. ETA: I worked retail while I was in college. I wonder if old folks looked down on me as one of the "retail generation." As "smart" as you may be, you don't get it. Let me help you out: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g2Q0cyJSs04/hqdefault.jpg Are you still working retail? Are you? Well? No? THEN THIS THREAD DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU.
My point was that OP doesn't know jack shit about the kids he sees at Target when he checks out. Who's to say they're not working there until they graduate with a degree. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 11:58:12 PM EDT
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Funny thing, I see just as many people in their 40's and 50's working shitty jobs as I do people my age and younger.
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:00:59 AM EDT
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Funny thing, I see just as many people in their 40's and 50's working shitty jobs as I do people my age and younger. Hell, I have a buddy who's a supervisor at Disneyland, he has people that age (40s-50s) who've made a career at essentially entry-level jobs working in the same department. Sometimes even working for him. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:03:43 AM EDT
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How could anyone make enough money working retail? I manage a national drug store, make 75k. Its not uber great but enough for me. That's some nice coin for a store manager. I'm a manager of loss prevention for a retail chain and make $45k. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:03:59 AM EDT
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Funny thing, I see just as many people in their 40's and 50's working shitty jobs as I do people my age and younger. Shhhh, that didn't happen. If it did then this whole thread would just be stupid. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:04:28 AM EDT
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It's not their fault they have been lied to their entire lives. They need to be educated. One day they are going to wake up from this disillusioned slumber, and they are going to be mad as hell. This right here. It will be epic. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:20:09 AM EDT
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My point was that OP doesn't know jack shit about the kids he sees at Target when he checks out. Who's to say they're not working there until they graduate with a degree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh. I work for a biotech company. 20% of the scientists in my lab are evil Millenials. ETA: I worked retail while I was in college. I wonder if old folks looked down on me as one of the "retail generation." As "smart" as you may be, you don't get it. Let me help you out: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g2Q0cyJSs04/hqdefault.jpg Are you still working retail? Are you? Well? No? THEN THIS THREAD DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU.
My point was that OP doesn't know jack shit about the kids he sees at Target when he checks out. Who's to say they're not working there until they graduate with a degree. That one went way over your head. While the OP paints it with a wide roller, if you think about it he's not talking about all millennials. Quoted:
Am I right? 8 years of Obama has gutted real coal mine jobs, oil pipeline jobs, etc... "But I work at an Apple store, all is well in my world, Hillary is my vote..." Crap Why are you defending people you don't know? How do you know that the millennials at Target are not career retail employees or they are one quarter away from earning a double masters in Nuclear Engineering and Cancer research? |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:22:00 AM EDT
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WTF is this thread about? What's our fault again? The generation that created the mess is complaining about how the proceeding generation copes with said mess. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:32:02 AM EDT
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That one went way over your head. While the OP paints it with a wide roller, if you think about it he's not talking about all millennials. Why are you defending people you don't know? How do you know that the millennials at Target are not career retail employees or they are one quarter away from earning a double masters in Nuclear Engineering and Cancer research? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Am I right? 8 years of Obama has gutted real coal mine jobs, oil pipeline jobs, etc... "But I work at an Apple store, all is well in my world, Hillary is my vote..." Crap Why are you defending people you don't know? How do you know that the millennials at Target are not career retail employees or they are one quarter away from earning a double masters in Nuclear Engineering and Cancer research? Are you high? You must not be reading the same thread I am in which the OP is shitting on Millenials in general. I don't know and neither does the OP. Again, that was kind of my point, bro. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:33:44 AM EDT
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You kids thinking how awesome google, various Silicon Valley high tech firms are and the new economic model. Go try to land a job with them, lol. Tats and ear gauges don't land an automatic job with them, you still have to have some skills to bring to the table. Hanging out with friends smoking a fattie and showing off the latest tat after a grueling 7 hr shift at Best Buy isn't going to cut it. You mix up the Gold Balm and Icy Hot this morning? |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:41:22 AM EDT
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OP is full of shit, the problems are always someone else's fault. I'll keep busting my ass designing high end appliances full time while building a furniture company on the side with a fellow Arfcomer. <a href="http://s957.photobucket.com/user/762RUM/media/D2F95C52-8130-4C59-B865-8352C4D00A28_zpsxbnws4av.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae52/762RUM/D2F95C52-8130-4C59-B865-8352C4D00A28_zpsxbnws4av.jpg</a> designed and built by millinials, because capitalism and money Beautiful table. Very industrial yet elegant. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 12:47:13 AM EDT
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Or you could make your own way in life, why are kids so afraid of going it alone these days? Fucking kids "I need my friends,,,,, I am helpless without the kid I played kickball with in 5th grade, sob" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Instead of ripping on young people all the time why don't you find one and mentor him or her? Or you could make your own way in life, why are kids so afraid of going it alone these days? Fucking kids "I need my friends,,,,, I am helpless without the kid I played kickball with in 5th grade, sob" I don't even know what to say about you. Goes to show how ignorant you are along with how you're a big part of the problem. Go collect your SS that I'm paying for. You boomers rode the coat tails of the greatest generation ever. It's your kids that are "ruining " the country. Step up and be a real parent. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:03:36 AM EDT
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Oh this thread is going places. Blaming generations up and down which is senseless. Want someone to blame? It's not a generation. It's the fucking government. Student loan problem? Government. Cost of college? Government. Jobs? Government. Social security? Government. Not one of these fucking problems came up to a vote for the people. I didn't vote for any of that shit. I didn't get to vote whether or not we got NAFTA, both God damned parties voted for that shit. ObamaCare? You didnt have a choice, you'd have McCainCare instead today except employer provided health insurance was going to get taxed to shit to pay for it.
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:07:45 AM EDT
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I love stereotypes. Millennial here: Almost 33 Mech Engineer, Certified Welding Inspector Welder (sucky, but I know enough to be able to lead my guys, I believe you should be able and willing to do all the work and go any place you require your employees to work) Maint Supervisor over coal fired utility boilers, mills, pressure vessels, and all welding Unfortunately the stereotype is true! I have a hard time finding good engineers, welders, etc. Nobody wants to get dirty or work in the field. And if they do it's hard to find someone that will work any OT in a salaried position-here it is part of the job. I have welders that work for me on maintenance outages who earn $100k+ from January to May. They take the summer off and work in the fall and make more. Tube welders are in demand, but people want to sit in a fabric covered box working 40 hrs a week. Also millenial. 28. Graduated as a Mechanical Designer (uber Draftsman/3D dude essentially - think of it as engineer lite, without the math  ).
Left previous company, came to where I am. Started drawings lines, circles, and rectangles to make giant contraption for Kimberly Clark. After main drawing portion finished, I went out to the shop. Learned machine assembly, welding (also shit, but metal sticks ok now), then dove head long into an empty machine shop that was just sitting there. Now, I run it solo - make 3D parts, take that part and turn it into G/M-Code for an older CNC machine, setup said machine with tool and work offsets, and hit start. I also order tools needed, organized the whole damn place (5 sigma bitches!), made custom jigs and fixtures, and broke a metric fuck ton of taps. Definitely not smooth sailing by any means, but I'm damn proud when I figure out how to do shit proper with no one helping me. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:07:47 AM EDT
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And just where are these millennials going to get jobs beyond retail?
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:24:31 AM EDT
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Did a pack of children rape you OP? Are they on your lawn right now?
Calm down. I'm a hard working millennial with a good job, a stay at home wife and a happy little girl. I'm friends with a lot of young people paying for your friends flaccid wang pills and weekend cocktails at the bridge club with their taxes, knowing we'll need to buy our own viagra someday. The young people today are doing fine. This isn't the Great Depression, or the civil war. Did I mention the all-volunteer army fighting two wars. If Bernie gets the nod the world won't end, hell your SS check might even get bigger. Did your parents bitch when JFK, or Carter, or Lincoln (you sound real old) was elected? "People have phones! The sky is falling!" Honestly, did young people work in retail when you were young? For fucks sake what do you want? "I'm pissed because Young people with jobs should have better jobs." Really? Update: They agree. Take a nap, head up to Luby's and get a decaf. You'll feel better. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:30:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How big of school did you go to? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Every kid I went to HS with was determined to make it in this world and all but 1 did. None had a fantasy 'reality star' mindset either. Fuck the 'you owe me Boomers' mindset. How big of school did you go to? You misunderstood. HS, meant home school, alone. All but 1 did great.  |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:38:14 AM EDT
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OP eats crayons and paste.
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:38:32 AM EDT
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How could anyone make enough money working retail? I manage a national drug store, make 75k. Its not uber great but enough for me. That's some nice coin for a store manager. I'm a manager of loss prevention for a retail chain and make $45k. By 'working retail' I meant working the register. Management, ownership, LP, etc is different. |
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:43:46 AM EDT
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I'm fine with it, less competition for me in the economy. They'll figure it out or they won't, I don't really care.
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Posted: 11/1/2015 1:50:34 AM EDT
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I'm so glad my parents let me crash at their place still even though I'm 28. Flipping patties at micky dees -is hard work and if I didn't come home to mom pulling piping hot pizza rolls out of the oven I don't know what I'd do. I'd be starving all night while posting on arfcom about how an entire generation of people is nothing but assholes.
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